"Rob Simpson" wrote in message
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In message , Jake
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:05:49 +0100, "Christina Websell"
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"Rob Simpson" wrote in message
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See
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...491fSXMi1LvSMf
DNxSjyUn3MM?feat=directlink

This is the second garden where I have experienced these small, green
plants growing, in a tightly-clustered way, around small fruit such as
raspberries and red/white/black currents.
Often they are even tighter together than this photo shows.
Anyone - what are they?
(I never let them get big enough to be able to take a photo of any
flower.)

Second question, since glyphosate is absorbed by leaves (and not by
woody
material), is it safe to spray them with glyphosate and not damage the
fruit bushes ?
Thanks to and for this active group.

They look a bit like broadleafed willowherb. I get them but just pull
them
up.
I'd be more worried about what is popping up to the left of it -
suspiciously like ground elder.

I was thinking willowherb but the leaves look too shiny to me but,
either way, something to be got rid of. The plantlet to the left looks
more like a baby raspberry cane popping out of the ground than ground
elder.

The young rosettes of several willowherbs are quite shiny.

If spraying with glyphosate, remember that the spray can rebound or
get carried by the slightest puff of breeze. Although it won't
penetrate wood, it can affect leaves. When spraying anywhere near
green growth I want to keep, I use a 2 or 3 litre pop bottle with the
bottom cut off. Place the bottle over the weed to be killed and poke
the nozzle of the sprayer through the hole at the top and spray away.
Everything around is protected though watch for any spray run-off
dripping from the inside of the bottle as you lift/carry it elsewhere.

Cheers, Jake
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Urgling happily from the east end of the totally
dry and sunny Swansea Bay.

--
alias Ernest Major

Well, I am not sure about Willowherb. I could not find any pictures on
the Internet that looked remotely like mine in the garden.
Of course, as is so often the case, the photos were of mature, flowering
varieties.
Using the classification system of dgsgardening.btinternet.co.uk I thought
Field Forget-me-not looked promising - remembering that mine are very
early in the growth cycle. This was based mainly on the growing style:
low rosettes and leaf shape.
A photo in a photo search also supports that:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...DuHrfHbpPCDdBw
= myosotis sylvatica
I think I will leave one bunch undisturbed/unglyphosated and see how they
develop.

Jake, thanks for the wise trick to localize the effect of glyphosate.
Rob

It is not a forget-me-not, Rob. I am pretty certain it is willowherb,
probably broadleaved w/h. Let it grow and see if I am right.
I don't mind if I am wrong but I'm reasonably confident with the ID.
And why? Because I have them too, have allowed them to grow and that's what
they turn out to be.
I really don't mind being proved wrong if anyone has a better idea about
your weed.
You looked for internet photos. You now have the definitive "how many times
have I seen broadleafed willowherb emerging in my garden to know that is
it?" from me.
Tina