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Old 24-06-2012, 01:05 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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Default Weed torcch - anyone used these?

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:38:05 +0100, Martin Brown wrote:

They are a complete waste of time and money unless you are an
Organic(TM) freak and subscribe to the all chemicals are bad scam.
Double irony is that burning weeds *will* make dioxins.


You don't burn the plants with a weed burner though you just waft the
flame
over them enough to cause a visble change in colour and/or wilt. The
heat damages the cell structure and the top growth dies. Depending on
the plant that may or may not be enough to kill it.

The small gas cannister "walking stick" things are fine for small
weeds between paving or in gravel but not so good for big weeds or
large well vegitated areas.

Glyphosate is considered "safe" though the stronger concentrates have
been removed from retail sale. They are still available from agri
merchants etc.
Cheap generic "Weed killer" you get from a shed will have as much
water (cheap) and as little active ingredient (expensive) in it that
they think they can get away with. Look at the lables...


I have been using roundup and weedol even tried the 24 hr fast acting
stuff but its all useless.

I started off with nettles a couple of feet high across the back and
was trying to get at them early b ut now they are 10ft high and have
started to "march" across the lawn as the get bigger and more
widespread.

Nothing has worked. I know putting a bonfire on the ground clears it
for a time ( and then they start again.

I have tried smothering the ground with thick carpet but they grow
through.

This isn't a few dandelions in the patio - so what is there that will
work? And the green wellie chemical free brigade can come and hike in
my stinging nettles and see how they like it, if they want to object -
I am pro anything that will do the job.


The nettles have most likely been in seed and the seed has blown in the
wind all over the place. They will grow again. When they grow it is VITAL
not to let them seed again. Hoe(not the best idea yet),Dab or spray with
glyphosate when you see any new ones. I think I am right in saying that
some nettles also grow from underground root system so just keep on top
of them with the chemical attack. You will kill the root system, but the
seeds are viable for 20+ years, so next year you can hoe them out in the
knowledge that the root system is dead.

Martin Brown within this thread has suggested over diluting the
glyphosate 10-20%, and I agree, but up to 50%.
Overdosing by my experience is a waste of money and time. I have done it
too!

Baz