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Old 22-08-2012, 05:53 PM posted to alt.home.lawn.garden
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Default A whole lot of weeds

On 8/22/2012 12:45 PM, HellT wrote:
On 8/21/2012 4:33 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/21/2012 8:23 AM, HellT wrote:
On 8/16/2012 5:09 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/16/2012 5:35 PM, Bob F wrote:
Brob wrote:
I've recently moved into a new house and the back lawn isn't too
bad.
No patches but it does have a lot of weeds and moss.

I've tried to remove a lot with spot weeders but there seems to
be an
ever growing patch of clovers.

Is it to late to apply an all over lawn weed and feed now to remove
the clovers and various other weeds?

It depends on your climate. Where I live (upper Midwest USA) we're
heading right into the best time of year (mid-August to mid-September)
to treat lawns for weeds or to lay sod or apply grass seed.


If not what should I go for?


Just spot treat them. It might take a few treatments for clover.


That's what I'd do. Also moss might indicate low pH and you may want
to lime.

Low soil pH has nothing to do with moss. Think moisture and shade
instead.


Low pH encourages moss. Moisture and shade of course do too.


Tell that to all of us who live in areas with alkaline soils and have
moss growing readily - in shady, wet areas.

Look it up. And don't ever apply a product to change the soil's pH until
you know what the soil pH currently is and thus know whether it needs
changing.

Back when I was in the trade, we put in a great deal of time talking
clueless customers out of adding lime to their lawns. They didn't know
what their soil's pH was. They didn't know they were living in an area
where soils were already on the alkaline side. They didn't even know if
it would correct a problem they were having - such as moss or mushrooms
- or if the use of lime to fix that problem was just an old wives tale.

Had we fewer scruples, we could've made a lot of money selling people
products they didn't need.


I'm in an acid soil area, have had moss, checked pH and lime ameliorated
it although it was never a big problem.

I'm not a believer in blanketing my lawn with something like the four
product Scott treatment to solve all your problems whether you have them
or not ;_