On 23/10/2012 14:06, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:40:03 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2012-10-23 12:06:29 +0100, Emery Davis said:
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But I'd think the burgeoning group of English wine producers would be
the best source of information. IIRC Madeleine Angevine has been quite
successful, but I'm certainly not an expert on English wine, more's the
pity.

-E

One English winemaker (I forget which) has totally abandoned this
year's wine making.

So have the Dutch vineyards for the same reasons

I've loads of growth on my vines but not a grape to be seen.