On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:59:10 +0000, Sacha wrote:

Yes, I can recall being told that in the days when city air was really
horrible, roses thrived!

Yeah but there were a lot more horses about as well. B-)

Our cool and damp winters don't do anything any favours. Below freezing
most of the time rather than just above would be so much nicer.

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Cheers
Dave.