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Old 06-05-2013, 08:53 PM posted to rec.gardens
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Default The Bright Side Of Global Warmth

In article . 131,
Jane Galt wrote:

Billy wrote :

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Jane Galt wrote:

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power,
having carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change
you shift the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually much
the same, accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and
repeating chants you like the sound of that you don't quite
understand. No surprise. Either your courage or your knowledge is
insufficient to carry on a responsive conversation, which is it?

David

So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions of
"Man Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".

On the contrary I care little for faith. I care much for evidence and
reasoning, you should give it a try. Let me start you off, here is
your post:

quote
Has nothing to do with the fact that government FUNDED weather
organizations were lying with their data, we may actually be entering a
period of global cooling, and the climate has been changing for
billions of years!

In fact there were periods in Europe when thet couldn't even grow crops
and were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions!
unquote

The next part is where you respond and present your evidence for these
claims that you say show climate change is a fraud. You need to
establish both the truth AND the relevance of these statements to your
position:

1 - weather organisations were lying with their data
2 - we may be entering a period of global cooling
3 - climate has been changing for billions of years
4 - there were periods in Europe when they couldn't even grow crops and
were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions

Take them one by one, show us your understanding. Or you could
disappear again.

David


You want a reasoned conversation from a "Bagger"? Are you mad, man?

Yes in deed, Global Forcing is at work , and we are supposed to be
heading into a new Ice Age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling#Orbital_forcing
So why are we heating up, Jane, you sycophant of an adulterous false
prophet?

CO2 is what is wrong, and it started rising as soon as man put plow to
dirt, and has only accelerated with industrialization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere
http://skepticalscience.net/pdf/rebu...-co2-measureme
nts-intermediate.pdf


BULLSHIT!

With your false reasoning, man must be eliminated to "save the earth"!
Kill yourself and lower the CO2, won't you?

All that pseudo science completely ignores the FACT that plants take in CO2
and put out O2! Any indoor pot grower knows that they can speed up plant
growth by putting CO2 into the room.


Great! Our savior is stoned. Oh, happy day.

You do realize that it was acolytes of the loose pants Ayn Rand, who
crashed the economy of the Western World. Developing countries are doing
fine, thank you very much.

CO2 is part of a cycle. It goes round and round. Left to its own
devices, nature sequesters CO2 which becomes coal, oil, and limestone.
What people have done is to reintroduce carbon that had been naturally
sequestered in the soil, back into the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide traps
heat raising the temperature, which increases evaporation of water which
increases the temperature, which thaws the frozen tundra releasing
methane which traps heat and raises the temperature, which melt the
light reflecting snow, exposing dark rock and soil which heats the
atmosphere. The more water vapor there is in the atmosphere, the more
energy it can release as it changes back to a liquid (let's call it
rain, OK?). This energy drives storms making them more powerful. The
oceans heat changing air flows over them, and the weather changes the
world over. Got it?

What sane people suggest is that we stop introducing the sequestered
carbon back into the atmosphere, and sequester much the CO2 that is
there. This can be done as easily as making charcoal.

We await your next Randian, environazis, "Bagger" dilerium. It is kinda
getting boring. Maybe you could do some summersaults, and high kicks to
liven it up.

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