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Old 08-06-2013, 06:20 PM posted to rec.gardens.edible
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Rick wrote:

On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 09:23:56 +1000, "David Hare-Scott"
wrote:


The people you are attempting to communicate with are a religious cult
that is anti-GMO. Don't bother to try to educate them. They will
spew pseudo-science back at you to refute real science. Interesting
cult. Faith based science!


You don't have any examples of this behaviour do you? So far the responses
I have seen are referring to scientific studies not religious texts. You
might want to reply with some facts instead of a broad generalisation with
no obvious evidence. So far you are exhibiting the very thing you
criticise.

David


Sure.
scatter-gun effect of genetic manipulation may turn on genes not normally...


It is just too frustrating to talk to peolple with only the vaguest
idea of what DNA is, much less genetic and epigenetic regualtion of
gene expression, when the bandy about psuedo statements like the one
above and think they understand what it might mean. There are, of
course, legitimate concerns about gentically manipulating food crops,
whether done by an engineer, or a sselectibe breeder. Just taste a
store bought tomoato... Still, without a great deal more knowledge,
some one like Billy (or you) can't possibly enter the debate. So that
makes you boooooooring.


Your hubris runneth over. We poor gardeners are a varied lot, and you
may be surprised what you can learn here.

If you care to explain why GMOs are innocuous, please do so, but don't
presume to be above reproach as authority needs to be questioned. So far
you haven't made any scientific arguments in favor of GMOs, until you do
I'll presume that you have none.

Your "content free" post hasn't added anything to the conversation,
except to raise the specter of Lysenkoism. Please explain the influence
of splicosomes on "epigenetic regualtion of gene expression" (DNA
methylation, or histone modifications?). Or was this term used
stochastically to obfuscate the lack of content in your post?

More to the point, you haven't refuted the work of Dr. Arpad Pusztai.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81rp%C3%A1d_Pusztai

You haven't refuted the work of Jeffrey M. Smith.
http://www.amazon.com/Seeds-Deceptio...ly-Engineered/
dp/0972966587/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1370652274&sr=1-1&keywords=S
eeds+of+deception

You haven't refuted the concerns of the Union of Concerned Scientists.
http://www.ucsusa.org/food_and_agric...d-system/genet
ic-engineering/

As for not communicating with, or educating
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_geneticfood36.htm
that is a similar approach taken by the Church in the Middle Ages,
whereas today's Catholics accept a heliocentric solar system, and
Evolution.

Which will it be, a reasoned conversation, or crickets?
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