dave weil wrote:

Well, I broke down.

I bought Don Juan. ..

And I couldn't afford to spend a lot of money on a trellis so I bought
one that's only 4 ft. tall. I figure that I'll buy two more over the
season and put them next to this one and train the Don Juan to grow
laterally. Maybe I'll just keep adding trellises as it expands and end
up with a wall of Don Juan next to the sidewalk.

And you don't have to waste the trellis on the bottom two feet or so -
that's just a waste of good lumber.

Portland From Glendorra now has 3 fully opened blooms and about 20
bloom clusters with 4 -5 buds per cluster. if I remember last year,
the side buds don't open until the center bud is just about finished.
that's going to be one fragrant area of the yard because it's only
about 6 feet from Aloha, which is highly fragrant when in full bloom.

Isn't zone just amazing? We're mild zone 9, one frost all year, and yet
Glendora is just now opening flowers one at a time.

I just received Aloha from Amity Heritage Roses. Boy, did they send out
nice plants. Aloha came with a bud that I thought had been bug eaten -
it was oddly shaped. That sucker opened up the this bloom, quartered in
the center, with that wonderful freesia scent. I'm sold.