On 2013-11-07 18:58:52 +0000, Ophelia said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
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I will post one thing though before I go back into lurkdom and hope it
will be useful.

Thank you and may I say that I hope it's absolutely wrong!! ;-)

Groannnnnnnnnn so do I!!!!

Purely as speculation someone else said that to me today - about a bad
winter, I mean. His belief is that, having had a good summer, we'll
now get a hard winter! I don't think 'optimism' is in his dictionary!
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon