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Default Roses - prune? fertilize?

On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 10:20:36 PM UTC-8, David E. Ross wrote:
On 1/7/2014 8:21 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

On Monday, January 6, 2014 3:55:25 PM UTC-8, David E. Ross wrote:


On 1/5/2014 8:19 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:



Climate here in So.Calif coastal has been anomalous (sp?) last few




years. Hot, cold, hot, no respecter of seasons.








Right now, it's not even our version of "winter"; more like 70-80




daytime temp. (Not that I'm complaining about the sunshine, but we




are in deep trouble for rain locally as well as in the mountains.




Little or no snowpack, big trouble for domestic water use and for




agriculture.)








My roses did not do their usual holiday season flush; just a few




blooms.








I neglected to feed several months ago. So now I don't know what the




hell to do! Normally I wouldn't feed until some time after I prune




(usually around 3rd week in January.








Is it safest to just proceed normally, rather than screw them up by




feeding now and pruning later?




Help!








HB












Prune right now. I've pruned 8 of my 14 roses. One (a miniature) will




not be pruned.








As soon as leaf buds start to open, feed.








--




David E. Ross




Climate: California Mediterranean, see




http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html




Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary




David Ross -- Are you noticing anything different last few years?


IOW, have you always pruned on that schedule?




TIA




HB






Yes. I generally start by Christmas, prune at least on rose on New

Year, and try to finish by 15 January. My peach tree is done. Four

roses are still in bloom, but they will be cut this coming weekend.

Then I must do my three grape vines.



What is different is when the first bloom occurs after pruning.

Generally, roses had their first blooms in the second half of April. In

in 2013, they were well into bloom a month before that.



Besides an extreme drought, this is a relatively warm winter here in

southern California. So far, there have been only 100 hours of below

45F temperatures since the beginning of November and none since 21

December. By this date last year, we had slightly more than 181 hours.

Two years ago on this date, we had less than 86 hours. I am quite

concerned about my peach tree, which requires abouit 300 hours of winter

chill.


Seriously, David, would it be worth your while to bank the surrounding area out to the drip line with ice cubes? It would be expensive, yes, but might help get you a crop this year.

I had a peach tree for 15 - more like 20 - years that bore up a storm; couldn't keep up with the picking. And my area is much milder than yours. Can't remember my variety; it was a golden oldie standard cling. What variety is yours?

HB