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Old 07-02-2014, 12:11 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
Bob Hobden Bob Hobden is offline
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote


Many years ago, I planted a Philadelphus "Belle Etoile" but did
not realise that it would not grow above 4-5 feet. So:

What are the chances of me moving one with a basal width of a
few inches? Yes, I know how, but not what the chances are.

Can anyone think of a good small tree or shrub that will grow
in an upright fashion (critical) to 10-20' - or can be pruned
to be no higher than 10' and to avoid spreading sideways too
much (as I do with Abelia and Berberis vulgaris) - and preferably
is a good show of white in the spring for a reasonable period?

I have found plausible hits with some Viburnum, Philadelphus
(but is replanting OK for them?), Dipelta, Amelanchier and
Exochorda, but the main problem is getting one that is reliably
upright. Buddleia and Syringa are fallback only.

Also, can Amelanchier lamarkii be pruned to keep it that small?
The RHS says "no", but that's not always true.

And why on earth are fragrant woody plants always so much less
fragrant in my garden than elsewhere? No, don't bother with that;
it's just one of Life's Great Mysteries.



Have you thought of something unusual (for the UK), like Albizia
julibrissin. It will take the cold, a fully mature one shrugged off -14°C in
a friends garden on a regular basis, but they are not keen on winter wet,
soggy cold feet, which I understand is what killed the one they planted at
Kew. Can't remember if you are on clay or sand. The one I grew from seed
which I planted out two years ago in our front garden still has some green
leaves on it even now, although on clay/silt we are on a slight rise and
it's over gravel not far down.
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Regards. Bob Hobden.
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