On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:09:00 +0000, stuart noble wrote:

On 06/03/2014 09:44, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
stuart noble wrote:


Mine are directly in the ground, because using concrete means that you
can't plant climbers ar their base. But, yes, using a concrete collar
(it doesn't need to go down below 6-9") does help protect weakly
treated posts.


That's pretty amazing


I also have pressure treated pine half-rounds directly in the soil, no
sign of rot after more than 20 years. And also put climbers on the
fencing where there's enough light. Believe me, the ground gets pretty
wet, too! :/ Oddly the rails seem much more inclined to rot than the
posts.


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