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I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks |
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Dark Falken wrote:
I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks "What's your dbh?" is not a good pick-up line :) That's the only practical info I remember from University :) Joe |
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First things first. Drop the alias. Then we can discuss this all you want.
Geoff Kegerreis www.timberlineforestry.com Dark Falken wrote: I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks |
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"Dark Falken" wrote in message om...
I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks At this place and time in history, it's probably a good decision. With Bush wanting to "outsource" lots of government labor, being a forestry contractor will be much more lucrative than it ever has been. I'm not saying that this will be the true situation, as some things are better left to government employees. However, bits and pieces of the USFS forestry "machine" will almost certainly be "outsourced". Things like stand exams, timber stand improvement projects, wildlife surveys, plantation survival surveys and archeological surveys have some potential to be outsourced. So far, some of the more mundane services currently done by USFS employees are being studied this year. Opportunities for foresters within the USFS are increasing and soon there will be plenty of choices available for someone already within the "system". Get your foot in the door and watch what happens when the demand for foresters goes up and the supply goes down (massive retirement is expected in the next 5-10 years). Contracting Officers, Representatives and Inspectors will be most in demand. Sale Prep and Admin will also be big with the amount of fuel reduction projects and stewardship contracts that will come to be. |
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Larry Harrell wrote:
"Dark Falken" wrote in message om... I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks At this place and time in history, it's probably a good decision. With Bush wanting to "outsource" lots of government labor, being a forestry contractor will be much more lucrative than it ever has been. I'm not saying that this will be the true situation, as some things are better left to government employees. However, bits and pieces of the USFS forestry "machine" will almost certainly be "outsourced". Things like stand exams, timber stand improvement projects, wildlife surveys, plantation survival surveys and archeological surveys have some potential to be outsourced. So far, some of the more mundane services currently done by USFS employees are being studied this year. Opportunities for foresters within the USFS are increasing and soon there will be plenty of choices available for someone already within the "system". Get your foot in the door and watch what happens when the demand for foresters goes up and the supply goes down (massive retirement is expected in the next 5-10 years). Contracting Officers, Representatives and Inspectors will be most in demand. Sale Prep and Admin will also be big with the amount of fuel reduction projects and stewardship contracts that will come to be. Study hard and have fun! You'll be in a very good spot in five years. Consider a peace corps term then. If federal forestry is a possibility for you, a term of service will put you ahead of the new grads. If the Feds don't get it together by then international work is a kick. |
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I sure hope you're right Larry, I am on the federal bizopps bid list, and I see
all kinds of work out there in the PNW, but here in Michigan nothing, despite living within 15 minutes of the Manistee Nat'l Forest. It seems the only projects wanted by the forest service here are TSI work or the tops lobbed off red pines 17' off the ground. I'm not sure whether they put restrictions on who can do the work or not, but it sure doesn't require a degree to do that kind of mindless work, and I doubt very much I can win anything using hourly service rates that compare with private projects... I'm looking forward to those stand exam and timber sale prep jobs. The second they come out, I will be putting some reasonable figures into the bids and see what happens of it. Maybe then I can find out why in the hell they use 10 different colors of paint out in the hardwoods around here scattered in all different directions - you should see it! FUNKY! Later, Geoff Kegerreis Larry Harrell wrote: "Dark Falken" wrote in message om... I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks At this place and time in history, it's probably a good decision. With Bush wanting to "outsource" lots of government labor, being a forestry contractor will be much more lucrative than it ever has been. I'm not saying that this will be the true situation, as some things are better left to government employees. However, bits and pieces of the USFS forestry "machine" will almost certainly be "outsourced". Things like stand exams, timber stand improvement projects, wildlife surveys, plantation survival surveys and archeological surveys have some potential to be outsourced. So far, some of the more mundane services currently done by USFS employees are being studied this year. Opportunities for foresters within the USFS are increasing and soon there will be plenty of choices available for someone already within the "system". Get your foot in the door and watch what happens when the demand for foresters goes up and the supply goes down (massive retirement is expected in the next 5-10 years). Contracting Officers, Representatives and Inspectors will be most in demand. Sale Prep and Admin will also be big with the amount of fuel reduction projects and stewardship contracts that will come to be. |
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At your age, you're probably into rap music which I just recently got into- I suggest learn how to write and sing rap music. Then when you graduate into the real world of forestry and find out how *&^%$# up it is- then you'll do us all a favor by writing some good Eminem style "forestry rap". G I'm working on some now and expect to be seen on MTV any day now. -- Joe Zorzin http://www.forestmeister.com "Dark Falken" wrote in message m... I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks |
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First things first. Drop the alias. Then we can discuss this all you want.
Geoff Kegerreis www.timberlineforestry.com Dark Falken wrote: I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks |
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"Dark Falken" wrote in message om...
I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks At this place and time in history, it's probably a good decision. With Bush wanting to "outsource" lots of government labor, being a forestry contractor will be much more lucrative than it ever has been. I'm not saying that this will be the true situation, as some things are better left to government employees. However, bits and pieces of the USFS forestry "machine" will almost certainly be "outsourced". Things like stand exams, timber stand improvement projects, wildlife surveys, plantation survival surveys and archeological surveys have some potential to be outsourced. So far, some of the more mundane services currently done by USFS employees are being studied this year. Opportunities for foresters within the USFS are increasing and soon there will be plenty of choices available for someone already within the "system". Get your foot in the door and watch what happens when the demand for foresters goes up and the supply goes down (massive retirement is expected in the next 5-10 years). Contracting Officers, Representatives and Inspectors will be most in demand. Sale Prep and Admin will also be big with the amount of fuel reduction projects and stewardship contracts that will come to be. |
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Larry Harrell wrote:
"Dark Falken" wrote in message om... I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks At this place and time in history, it's probably a good decision. With Bush wanting to "outsource" lots of government labor, being a forestry contractor will be much more lucrative than it ever has been. I'm not saying that this will be the true situation, as some things are better left to government employees. However, bits and pieces of the USFS forestry "machine" will almost certainly be "outsourced". Things like stand exams, timber stand improvement projects, wildlife surveys, plantation survival surveys and archeological surveys have some potential to be outsourced. So far, some of the more mundane services currently done by USFS employees are being studied this year. Opportunities for foresters within the USFS are increasing and soon there will be plenty of choices available for someone already within the "system". Get your foot in the door and watch what happens when the demand for foresters goes up and the supply goes down (massive retirement is expected in the next 5-10 years). Contracting Officers, Representatives and Inspectors will be most in demand. Sale Prep and Admin will also be big with the amount of fuel reduction projects and stewardship contracts that will come to be. Study hard and have fun! You'll be in a very good spot in five years. Consider a peace corps term then. If federal forestry is a possibility for you, a term of service will put you ahead of the new grads. If the Feds don't get it together by then international work is a kick. |
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I sure hope you're right Larry, I am on the federal bizopps bid list, and I see
all kinds of work out there in the PNW, but here in Michigan nothing, despite living within 15 minutes of the Manistee Nat'l Forest. It seems the only projects wanted by the forest service here are TSI work or the tops lobbed off red pines 17' off the ground. I'm not sure whether they put restrictions on who can do the work or not, but it sure doesn't require a degree to do that kind of mindless work, and I doubt very much I can win anything using hourly service rates that compare with private projects... I'm looking forward to those stand exam and timber sale prep jobs. The second they come out, I will be putting some reasonable figures into the bids and see what happens of it. Maybe then I can find out why in the hell they use 10 different colors of paint out in the hardwoods around here scattered in all different directions - you should see it! FUNKY! Later, Geoff Kegerreis Larry Harrell wrote: "Dark Falken" wrote in message om... I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks At this place and time in history, it's probably a good decision. With Bush wanting to "outsource" lots of government labor, being a forestry contractor will be much more lucrative than it ever has been. I'm not saying that this will be the true situation, as some things are better left to government employees. However, bits and pieces of the USFS forestry "machine" will almost certainly be "outsourced". Things like stand exams, timber stand improvement projects, wildlife surveys, plantation survival surveys and archeological surveys have some potential to be outsourced. So far, some of the more mundane services currently done by USFS employees are being studied this year. Opportunities for foresters within the USFS are increasing and soon there will be plenty of choices available for someone already within the "system". Get your foot in the door and watch what happens when the demand for foresters goes up and the supply goes down (massive retirement is expected in the next 5-10 years). Contracting Officers, Representatives and Inspectors will be most in demand. Sale Prep and Admin will also be big with the amount of fuel reduction projects and stewardship contracts that will come to be. |
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At your age, you're probably into rap music which I just recently got into- I suggest learn how to write and sing rap music. Then when you graduate into the real world of forestry and find out how *&^%$# up it is- then you'll do us all a favor by writing some good Eminem style "forestry rap". G I'm working on some now and expect to be seen on MTV any day now. -- Joe Zorzin http://www.forestmeister.com "Dark Falken" wrote in message m... I will be going back to college in August to pursue a degree in Forestry. I'd very much like to hear any advice that any of you might be willing to offer. Thanks |
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