Farm1 wrote:

Just how much Poa do you want? You can stop by the roadside on the
way to Cooma and dig out as much Poa as you like.

true, and I have quite a bit of something which I THINK is Poa on my place.
Trouble is, my region is infested with Serrated Tussock, and I'm buggered
if i can tell the difference. I was eyeing some nice looking tufts on the
driveway today, but i just don't know which is which, and I'd feel like an
idiot planting up a Special Grass Garden with serrated tussock! (it'd grow
too big, too).

I think that the tufty stuff on my hilltop is proper alpine poa, but have my
suspicions about stuff lower down, nearer the trees.


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ant

this site might help identifyng the serrated tussock
http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/dpi/nrenin...00128CA256BCF0
00AD548ECC844336D72F0634A256DEA00293F8A

"ant" wrote in message
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Farm1 wrote:

Just how much Poa do you want? You can stop by the roadside on the
way to Cooma and dig out as much Poa as you like.

true, and I have quite a bit of something which I THINK is Poa on my
place.
Trouble is, my region is infested with Serrated Tussock, and I'm buggered
if i can tell the difference. I was eyeing some nice looking tufts on the
driveway today, but i just don't know which is which, and I'd feel like an
idiot planting up a Special Grass Garden with serrated tussock! (it'd grow
too big, too).

I think that the tufty stuff on my hilltop is proper alpine poa, but have
my
suspicions about stuff lower down, nearer the trees.


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ant

loosecanon wrote:
this site might help identifyng the serrated tussock
http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/dpi/nrenin...00128CA256BCF0
00AD548ECC844336D72F0634A256DEA00293F8A

Thanks. I've been to a weeds day, got a coloured sheet handout, all the
stuff, and I'm still scratching my head. Nearest thing I can find in it is
that the serrated tussock has purple bases. Haven't found any of those yet,
but there's some things near the trees that develop long seed fronds in
summer.
thing is I don't want to be ripping out good grass mistakenly thinking it's
serrated tussock. Maybe I should volunteer my place for the next weed day.

Looking at the site though, all the big stuff down near the trees may well
be serrated tussock.Great!

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ant

ant wrote:
loosecanon wrote:
this site might help identifyng the serrated tussock
http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/dpi/nrenin...00128CA256BCF0
00AD548ECC844336D72F0634A256DEA00293F8A

Thanks. I've been to a weeds day, got a coloured sheet handout, all the
stuff, and I'm still scratching my head. Nearest thing I can find in it is
that the serrated tussock has purple bases. Haven't found any of those yet,
but there's some things near the trees that develop long seed fronds in
summer.
thing is I don't want to be ripping out good grass mistakenly thinking it's
serrated tussock. Maybe I should volunteer my place for the next weed day.

Looking at the site though, all the big stuff down near the trees may well
be serrated tussock.Great!

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ant

Take a look at

http://www.weeds.crc.org.au/document...ed_tussock.pdf

They refer to the Tasmanian DPI's checklist for identifying ST and that
states that " "The leaf cases are more tightly packed and more slender
than other tussocks and are a whitish colour - never purplr or
blue-green"

The seed heads create quite a fire hazard in the outer western suburbs
of Melbourne.

GreenieLeBrun wrote:
ant wrote:
loosecanon wrote:
this site might help identifyng the serrated tussock
http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/dpi/nrenin...00128CA256BCF0
00AD548ECC844336D72F0634A256DEA00293F8A

Thanks. I've been to a weeds day, got a coloured sheet handout, all
the stuff, and I'm still scratching my head. Nearest thing I can
find in it is that the serrated tussock has purple bases. Haven't
found any of those yet, but there's some things near the trees that
develop long seed fronds in summer.
thing is I don't want to be ripping out good grass mistakenly
thinking it's serrated tussock. Maybe I should volunteer my place
for the next weed day.

Looking at the site though, all the big stuff down near the trees
may well be serrated tussock.Great!

Take a look at

http://www.weeds.crc.org.au/document...ed_tussock.pdf

They refer to the Tasmanian DPI's checklist for identifying ST and
that states that " "The leaf cases are more tightly packed and more
slender than other tussocks and are a whitish colour - never purplr or
blue-green"

argh. they say never purple, but hte previous site said the fluffy seed-mess
is purple! and my sheet, I'm pretty sure, says the seating for the leaves
etc at the base is purple.

The seed heads create quite a fire hazard in the outer western suburbs
of Melbourne.

I do get some of the heads rolling up and becoming tumble weed type things.
But it could be good tussock, not evil tussock. Very frustrating.


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ant

hi ant
i can see the problem, this website mentions several grasses that look
like serrated tussock, see the heading "look alikes"
http://www.esc.nsw.gov.au/Weeds/Shee...%20tussock.htm
and this one points out how similar poa is to serrated tussock:
http://www.sgaonline.org.au/weed_nas...richotoma.html
but i've learned a lot about grass weeds just because you asked!

ant wrote:

I do get some of the heads rolling up and becoming tumble weed type things.
But it could be good tussock, not evil tussock. Very frustrating.

jils wrote:
hi ant
i can see the problem, this website mentions several grasses that look
like serrated tussock, see the heading "look alikes"
http://www.esc.nsw.gov.au/Weeds/Shee...%20tussock.htm
and this one points out how similar poa is to serrated tussock:
http://www.sgaonline.org.au/weed_nas...richotoma.html
but i've learned a lot about grass weeds just because you asked!

I've got a lot of stuff that looks like the first picture, but I've never
seen rolling masses of that white flossy stuff. Purple seems to be the main
way of IDing it though. It's terrible stuff, useless as a nutrient so
animals eat it but get no benefit.


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ant

"ant" wrote in message
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GreenieLeBrun wrote:
ant wrote:
loosecanon wrote:
this site might help identifyng the serrated tussock

http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/dpi/nrenin...A3C187100128CA
256BCF0
00AD548ECC844336D72F0634A256DEA00293F8A

Thanks. I've been to a weeds day, got a coloured sheet handout,
all
the stuff, and I'm still scratching my head. Nearest thing I can
find in it is that the serrated tussock has purple bases. Haven't
found any of those yet, but there's some things near the trees
that
develop long seed fronds in summer.
thing is I don't want to be ripping out good grass mistakenly
thinking it's serrated tussock. Maybe I should volunteer my place
for the next weed day.

Looking at the site though, all the big stuff down near the trees
may well be serrated tussock.Great!

Take a look at

http://www.weeds.crc.org.au/document...ed_tussock.pdf

They refer to the Tasmanian DPI's checklist for identifying ST and
that states that " "The leaf cases are more tightly packed and
more
slender than other tussocks and are a whitish colour - never
purplr or
blue-green"

argh. they say never purple, but hte previous site said the fluffy
seed-mess
is purple!

It isn't a full on purple people eater type purple, more a tinge of
purple if you look at it side on and get a good lot of it to see at
one time - Autumn is the best tiem for this.

I could send you a sample if you'd like :-))

"ant" wrote in message
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Farm1 wrote:

Just how much Poa do you want? You can stop by the roadside on
the
way to Cooma and dig out as much Poa as you like.

true, and I have quite a bit of something which I THINK is Poa on my
place.
Trouble is, my region is infested with Serrated Tussock, and I'm
buggered
if i can tell the difference.

Serrated is very fine and will look almost purplish is you catch it in
a sideways light in Autumn when the seed heads are on it. Poa (in all
it's guisdes) is a much more robust beast. BTW, if you have got
serrated, get onto it in Spring or otherwise the mogrel will take over
your block and end up strangling you in your bed.

Farm1 wrote:
"ant" wrote in message
...
Farm1 wrote:

Just how much Poa do you want? You can stop by the roadside on the
way to Cooma and dig out as much Poa as you like.

true, and I have quite a bit of something which I THINK is Poa on my
place. Trouble is, my region is infested with Serrated Tussock, and
I'm buggered if i can tell the difference.

Serrated is very fine and will look almost purplish is you catch it in
a sideways light in Autumn when the seed heads are on it. Poa (in all
it's guisdes) is a much more robust beast. BTW, if you have got
serrated, get onto it in Spring or otherwise the mogrel will take over
your block and end up strangling you in your bed.

That's the paterson's curse! I spray it with everything going, and always
there's a few taht survive. There's about an acre of it, with the thistles,
just lurking and riding the frosts, waiting for it to warm up. I'm going to
hit it hard this spring, had enough of it.

The purple thing is what I always remember from the various info sheets
about Serrated. I just haven't seen it here, but still...
and it's so hard to nuke, it's a bit like bamboo.

Meanwhile, I very much like poa, especially snowgrass. The local nurseries
all flog the Blue Fescue, which worked well in my miniture version, but I
have aspirations to something a bit more exotic.


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ant