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I am afraid that nuclear power may be safe, but when its on a fault line
or mismanagement, then the system is really dangerous, and not just locally.
Have a look at the problems they have with one of the first nuclear
facilities at Sellafield in Great Britain, fifty years after the problem
its still not known how they can fix it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/cumbria/4559771.stm
Despite nuclear being safer these days, its a worry.
Australia is probably in a better position than most countries in the
world to use it, but despite its vastness, there are many people
suffering illnesses caused by unexplained cancers.
I know what I suspect.
Here is the link, and others from the BBC are interesting reading....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sellafield
http://www.virtualnucleartourist.com...s/windscal.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windscale_fire



I know one thing, In Tasmania our headmaster gave us iodine tablets for
"goitre" which was also an ideal cover for the radioactive fallout which
drifted over Tasmania after a nuclear test in SA.
He may have known that this would prevent problems due to radioactive
iodine being taken up by young people who were still developing.
We were lucky.


cp wrote:
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:07:48 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

"cp" wrote in message
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:36:08 +1000, Terryc
wrote:

jh wrote:

If I was the PM I'd forget about the murrey darling basin and build
each state a couple of desal plants whioch are about $350 million
each. Each plant in Perth caters for about 300,000 people.
1) Little John would rather funds parties than build any infrastruture
for Australia. his legacy is going to be the squandering of the good
economic times that PK lined up.
Water is the responceability of the states as is the hospital system
which is in a god awful mess.
So why is John Howard trying to take over control of the Murray-Darling
Basin?

Personnaly I think he's made a mistake. Time for him to retire
gracefully. I don't like Costello. I would like to see Turnball or
Bishop in the leadership pack with Downer.

2) Climate change. To power desal, you are going to need a new coal
fired power station. Nukes are not going to happen in my lifetime.
Power stations are owned by the state governemets, blame them for coal
power station building.
So why did John Howard come home form his last trip to the US and announce
within a week that Australia would have 20+ Nuclear Power Staions?

Its a good idea. I'm all for nuclear power. Safe as houses.
Martin Fergerson is for nuclear power and he's from the ALP.
At least Rudd will allow Nuclear mining at long last. Now to get the
other states on board so they can mine urainium as well.

There are 443 uranium nuclear power stations in the world. The French
get 75% of power from nuclear reactors and sell power to Germany who
is against Nuclear power but is quite happy to pay for the power that
comes from nuclear.

I don't know why people are against it, maybe it comes from the silly
arms race between the then USSR and the US.

Longer term though helium-3 will be the way to go. 6 tonnes helium-3
would give enough fuel to run the whole of the UK for a year.

Helium-3 is on the moon which is why they are all eager to get back to
the moon.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/rus...788144227.html

Helium-3 is a non-radioactive isotope of helium that can be used in
nuclear fusion.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117....html?from=rss

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Jonno wrote:
I am afraid that nuclear power may not be safe, but definitely not
when its on a fault line ((Indonesia Iran and Japan to mention some)
or mismanaged, then the system is really dangerous, and not just
locally.
Have a look at the problems they have with one of the first nuclear
facilities at Sellafield in Great Britain, fifty years after the problem
its still not known how they can fix it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7030536.stm

Despite nuclear being safer these days, its a dangerous worry.
Australia is probably in a better position than most countries in the
world to use it, but despite its vastness, there are many people
suffering illnesses caused by unexplained cancers.
I know what I suspect.I know one thing, In Tasmania our headmaster
gave us iodine tablets for
"goitre" which was also an ideal cover for the radioactive fallout
which drifted over Tasmania after a nuclear test in SA.
He may have known that this would prevent problems due to radioactive
iodine being taken up by young people who were still developing. The
goitre tablets contained Iodine.
We were lucky.
Here is the link, and others from the BBC are interesting reading....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7030536.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sellafield
http://www.virtualnucleartourist.com...s/windscal.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windscale_fire


While this is not a gardening topic, it still affects all of us, if
they ever decide to build a local power station.
I figure Bass Strait is also in consideration. Especially seeing they
built a power line from Tassie lately...



cp wrote:
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:07:48 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

"cp" wrote in message
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:36:08 +1000, Terryc
wrote:

jh wrote:

If I was the PM I'd forget about the murrey darling basin and build
each state a couple of desal plants whioch are about $350 million
each. Each plant in Perth caters for about 300,000 people.
1) Little John would rather funds parties than build any infrastruture
for Australia. his legacy is going to be the squandering of the good
economic times that PK lined up.
Water is the responceability of the states as is the hospital system
which is in a god awful mess.
So why is John Howard trying to take over control of the
Murray-Darling Basin?

Personnaly I think he's made a mistake. Time for him to retire
gracefully. I don't like Costello. I would like to see Turnball or
Bishop in the leadership pack with Downer.

2) Climate change. To power desal, you are going to need a new coal
fired power station. Nukes are not going to happen in my lifetime.
Power stations are owned by the state governemets, blame them for coal
power station building.
So why did John Howard come home form his last trip to the US and
announce within a week that Australia would have 20+ Nuclear Power
Staions?

Its a good idea. I'm all for nuclear power. Safe as houses.
Martin Fergerson is for nuclear power and he's from the ALP.
At least Rudd will allow Nuclear mining at long last. Now to get the
other states on board so they can mine urainium as well.

There are 443 uranium nuclear power stations in the world. The French
get 75% of power from nuclear reactors and sell power to Germany who
is against Nuclear power but is quite happy to pay for the power that
comes from nuclear.

I don't know why people are against it, maybe it comes from the silly
arms race between the then USSR and the US.

Longer term though helium-3 will be the way to go. 6 tonnes helium-3
would give enough fuel to run the whole of the UK for a year.

Helium-3 is on the moon which is why they are all eager to get back to
the moon.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/rus...788144227.html



Helium-3 is a non-radioactive isotope of helium that can be used in
nuclear fusion.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117....html?from=rss

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"cp" wrote in message
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:07:30 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:
"cp" wrote in message
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 11:55:44 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

To pay off ALP debt:(

The only other way is to raise taxes which no one likes.

No it's not. One of the ways that we could have improved services right
across the board is if the current Goverment actually decided to DO
something with the huge surplus it is sitting on.

States run the power grid, water, etc...

Sigh!


And the really disturbing thing about this surplus is that most
Australians
are too tied to one political party to use their heads and actually
think.

Pot kettle black. When are you going to understand that the federal
government has nothing to do with the power, water and hospitals in
each state of Australia. These are all run or sold by state
governments. Both Lib and ALP when in power have had to sell off
assets to pay for infrastructure.

You can only save so much. Rudd is going to have more waste with too
many departments which isn't going to be cheap. He's not said how he's
going to pay for it all. Meanwhile the Lib state leader here is a fool
and carpenter our state premier has ministers that have been caught up
in the corruption scandles.

The surplus the Government is currently sitting on came about as a
direct
result of all the economic reforms put in place under the governments
of
Hawke and Keating. There is actually no evidence that the Howard
government

You are kidding right.

No, I'm not kidding, I know what economic reforms they instituted.

If you don't believe me, you might believe Gerard Henderson. He is the
darling of all Right Wingers and is a stalwart of that wonderful right
wing
think tank, "The Syndey Institute". Even though he is right wing, even he
can't bring himself to denigrate the legacy of the Hawke/Keating years.
http://www.thesydneyinstitute.com.au....php?ghwcID=77

They left the country in a real mess.

Nope. They activated a huge number of economic reforms that left
Australia
in a postion where we could have a boom (or what is supposed to be a boom.
I have my doubts about that given that we can't any longer get accurate
unemployment figures now that anyone who works for an hour a week is
counted
as being "employed". I just can't believe that anyone who works one hour
a
week is in any way actively or gainfully "employed"

More fool you then.
Go play in aus.pol,itics where all your silly mates are posting and
keep your crap out of aus.gardens.

Clearly you don't remember but you did claim only one day ago, that I was
now in your killfile. But given the lack of knowledge you dispaly on
politics and recent history, you probably don't even know how to put someone
in your killfile.

Your lack of reply to valid and provable points is noted as is your
inability to to think outside the square set for you by John Howard.

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"cp" wrote in message
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:11:14 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

"Terryc" wrote in message
cp wrote:

Once
you pay off your debts you really ought to save for your final years
not continue to spend like there is no tomorrow.

4) Yawn, I take it you're a naive kid .

I suspect this person is an old codger who has never voted anything but
Liberal in its life and doesn't want to think about anything political. I
think politics is the best spectator sport on the planet.

Member of the ALP for 30 years. Even been in parliament for the ALP 30
years ago.

You've proved a point I frequently make. Whenever anyone asks me about the
politicians I've met, I tell them that they are a real cross section of the
community. Some are brilliant and honest and some are as thick as bricks
and I wouldn't trust them to feed my cat.

Came to my senses like that other ALP candidate who is
supporting the LIBS and has seen the hate like some of you have
posted.

The only person here to post in "hate" has been you. You hate druggies, you
told Otter she was dreaming when a check of voting patterns would show that
she made a valid point, you called TeryC a fool with a huge credit card debt
and you accused me of ranting because responding based on facts was beyond
you.

But keep inventing and repeating the myths, it's something that the Federal
Liberals has found works well but unlike the Libs we can just go back one
post and check what you wrote and what others wrote.

Now go play in aus.politics where you belong.

Go stick you head up a dead bear's bum. I'll post where I like and when I
like and an old, hate filled codger who can't respond to a discussion based
on facts earns no respect from me.

The states are racking in the money from the GST.

5) Lol, you really haven't tried to educate yourself have you. If you
had,
you might know what the states gave up in return for getting the GST
income.

But unfortunaltey they haven't given up many of the taxes that they were
supposed to in order to get the GST money.

That is the state ALP that was suppose to remove stamp duty. Blame
them.

Clearly you failed to notice that I made a comment that it WAS the States
that were supposed to remove many taxes and Stamp Duty is not the ONLY tax
they have failed to remove.

There was a big argument about this in ALP ranks a few years ago
but was shouted down by my own members. I'll go public if I continue
to see the crap that is going on.

Please do go public. You'll interview really well on "A Current Affair" in
with the other dopy items like lift up bras and sad renters.

Rudd has clearly gone too far amd
worse than Keating.

Rudd has not yet had a chance to do anything except sit on the Opposition
benches so he can hardly be compared with Keating who made it to be PM. And
since we are talking about going too far, how can he be classed as doing
that? We don't yet know if he has lied but we know already that John Howard
has lied on many occasion with things like children overboard and the GST
that we would 'never, ever' have.

Have some sense. If you want to be treated seriously put some thought into
what you say rather than just reacting on the basis of prejudice.

Opposition leaders across Australia wether they are libs or alp are
quite ordinary to say the least.

Yep.

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"cp" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:07:30 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

"cp" wrote in message
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 11:55:44 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

To pay off ALP debt:(

The only other way is to raise taxes which no one likes.

No it's not. One of the ways that we could have improved services right
across the board is if the current Goverment actually decided to DO
something with the huge surplus it is sitting on.

States run the power grid, water, etc...

Sigh!


And the really disturbing thing about this surplus is that most
Australians
are too tied to one political party to use their heads and actually
think.

Pot kettle black. When are you going to understand that the federal
government has nothing to do with the power, water and hospitals in
each state of Australia. These are all run or sold by state
governments. Both Lib and ALP when in power have had to sell off
assets to pay for infrastructure.

You can only save so much. Rudd is going to have more waste with too
many departments which isn't going to be cheap. He's not said how he's
going to pay for it all. Meanwhile the Lib state leader here is a fool
and carpenter our state premier has ministers that have been caught up
in the corruption scandles.

The surplus the Government is currently sitting on came about as a
direct
result of all the economic reforms put in place under the governments
of
Hawke and Keating. There is actually no evidence that the Howard
government

You are kidding right.

No, I'm not kidding, I know what economic reforms they instituted.

If you don't believe me, you might believe Gerard Henderson. He is the
darling of all Right Wingers and is a stalwart of that wonderful right
wing
think tank, "The Syndey Institute". Even though he is right wing, even he
can't bring himself to denigrate the legacy of the Hawke/Keating years.
http://www.thesydneyinstitute.com.au....php?ghwcID=77

They left the country in a real mess.

Nope. They activated a huge number of economic reforms that left
Australia
in a postion where we could have a boom (or what is supposed to be a boom.
I have my doubts about that given that we can't any longer get accurate
unemployment figures now that anyone who works for an hour a week is
counted
as being "employed". I just can't believe that anyone who works one hour
a
week is in any way actively or gainfully "employed"

More fool you then.
Go play in aus.pol,itics where all your silly mates are posting and
keep your crap out of aus.gardens.

Your fascist desire to tell others what to do is noted as is your failure to
respond on points made and your inability to operate your killfile.

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"cp" wrote in message
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:07:48 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

"cp" wrote in message
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:36:08 +1000, Terryc
wrote:

jh wrote:

If I was the PM I'd forget about the murrey darling basin and build
each state a couple of desal plants whioch are about $350 million
each. Each plant in Perth caters for about 300,000 people.

1) Little John would rather funds parties than build any infrastruture
for Australia. his legacy is going to be the squandering of the good
economic times that PK lined up.

Water is the responceability of the states as is the hospital system
which is in a god awful mess.

So why is John Howard trying to take over control of the Murray-Darling
Basin?

Personnaly I think he's made a mistake. Time for him to retire
gracefully.

I agree on both those.

I don't like Costello. I would like to see Turnball or
Bishop in the leadership pack with Downer.

I like Costello, Bishop and Downer too but I'd like to see how they operate
without the dead hand of Howard stuffed up their back before I vote Liberal
again.


2) Climate change. To power desal, you are going to need a new coal
fired power station. Nukes are not going to happen in my lifetime.

Power stations are owned by the state governemets, blame them for coal
power station building.

So why did John Howard come home form his last trip to the US and announce
within a week that Australia would have 20+ Nuclear Power Staions?

Its a good idea.

It may or may not be a good idea, but the point that I was making is that IF
power is a State responsibility as you claim, then John Howard should not
have made any announcement about nuclear. He should have left that to the
States. He didn't and no doubt he knows he could probably use the
Corporations powers to overide them if need be.

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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...

I don't like Costello. I would like to see Turnball or
Bishop in the leadership pack with Downer.

I like Costello, Bishop and Downer too but I'd like to see how they
operate without the dead hand of Howard stuffed up their back before I
vote Liberal again.

just to bring two equally off-topic parts of this thread together
(SORRY!!!!!! :-) b. bishop was on jjj making a fool of herself the other
week concerning the whole illegal-drug conflagration. whether you like her
or not, she was holding a line that illicit drugs are both "more deadly" and
"create more harm" than those which, by historical quirk, are not illicit.
the other person on with her (one of the drug-dudes from st vincent's in
sydney iirc - i.e. someone whose job it actually is - who is experienced and
informed) held his patience but he was struggling. as was i.

i think it's fair to say that the current crop of liberals (sic) have a
massive and insurmountable problem with being simply unable to stick to the
facts. they're not all dead-set dickheads, but it's definitely a case of he
who lies down with dogs wakes up with fleas. and that does no one any good.
kylie

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0tterbot wrote:

i think it's fair to say that the current crop of liberals (sic) have a
massive and insurmountable problem with being simply unable to stick to the
facts.

Naah, they are a bunch of arrogant know it alls who think they know
everything and have nothing left to learn. Well, that is what the
election dribble that they are paying to have distributed locally says.
Guess even the local lberal party members are fed up with them.

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Terryc wrote:
0tterbot wrote:

i think it's fair to say that the current crop of liberals (sic) have
a massive and insurmountable problem with being simply unable to stick
to the facts.

Naah, they are a bunch of arrogant know it alls who think they know
everything and have nothing left to learn. Well, that is what the
election dribble that they are paying to have distributed locally says.
Guess even the local lberal party members are fed up with them.
Love that "born to be a liberal" (said it himself) pastyfaced Downer
feller. He does a lot for the labor party.
He not a gardener though he digs up dirt....

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"0tterbot" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message

I like Costello, Bishop and Downer too but I'd like to see how they
operate without the dead hand of Howard stuffed up their back before I
vote Liberal again.

just to bring two equally off-topic parts of this thread together
(SORRY!!!!!! :-) b. bishop was on jjj making a fool of herself the other
week concerning the whole illegal-drug conflagration. whether you like her
or not, she was holding a line that illicit drugs are both "more deadly"
and "create more harm" than those which, by historical quirk, are not
illicit.

Ill informed but not surprising.

You will have noticed that regardless of party, regardless of whether they
are bright or dim and regardless of whether we like 'em or hate 'em, they
are all trying to hold a line. It's a doctrinaire, socially conservative
and 'don't rock the boat' line from all of them at the moment. They think
that all of us out here in voter land are stupid. I wish they'd just call
the election so we can get it over and done with.

the other person on with her (one of the drug-dudes from st vincent's in
sydney iirc - i.e. someone whose job it actually is - who is experienced
and informed) held his patience but he was struggling. as was i.

I'd have been throwing something at the radio :-))

i think it's fair to say that the current crop of liberals (sic) have a
massive and insurmountable problem with being simply unable to stick to
the facts. they're not all dead-set dickheads, but it's definitely a case
of he who lies down with dogs wakes up with fleas. and that does no one
any good.

The Liberals (and they are far from being liberal (sic) in any way or form
at this point in time) do have a problem with the facts but then I think
that voters are partly to blame for that. The fact that voters have let
them get away with the lies for so many terms and in some cases (such as the
'queue jumping' refugees) has just encouraged then to keep up feeding us
bulldust.

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Its all about voting for Labor.

Tell me why did Bracks flush down a large chunk of our water supply straight
down the sea?

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...006029,00.html

Labor always screws up the country - look at the damage Whitlam, Cain,
Kirner, Keating (the recession-maker traitor) did.

John Howard is probably going to lose the election and Rudd and Gillard will
take power - then all of Australia will be under Labor control - even the
crazy councils.

Thank goodness, I've retired and paid off my mortgage. Actually, I'm kind of
looking forward to seeing Gillard as treasurer. After a few terms of Labor
in office - I can come back and buy investment properties.

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"Jonno" wrote in message
news:470601c9$0$31115 Thats the Victorian state
We have people being fined huge amounts for minor speed excesses, and call
it speeding...

LOL. And Christine Nixon doesn't have the guts to deal with tough criminals
who go around shooting up like a Wild West town. So she goes after grannies
who do 2km above the 50km speed limit. Easy marks.

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YMC wrote:

Labor always screws up the country - look at the damage Whitlam, Cain,
Kirner, Keating (the recession-maker traitor) did.

lol, fixing it more likely. Liberals chuck a party everytime and the
economy turns bad everytime. Labour takes the responsibility of fixing
the problem for the future.

John Howard is probably going to lose the election and Rudd and Gillard will
take power - then all of Australia will be under Labor control - even the
crazy councils.

Hey, that is what the voters recognise that we need to fix this nation

Thank goodness, I've retired and paid off my mortgage. Actually, I'm kind of
looking forward to seeing Gillard as treasurer. After a few terms of Labor
in office - I can come back and buy investment properties.

Lol, you've already missed the first opportunity under Howard/Costello.


today is a garden digging day

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The tide comes in and goes out. Both parties end up with their noses in
the feed trough.
Look at Bracks and that lovely ambassador in Italy. Talking about
setting yourself up with "dirty deeds done dirt cheap". in retirement.
Leaving all the hard stuff after being exposed for Talking to Tatts.

Terryc wrote:
YMC wrote:

Labor always screws up the country - look at the damage Whitlam, Cain,
Kirner, Keating (the recession-maker traitor) did.

lol, fixing it more likely. Liberals chuck a party everytime and the
economy turns bad everytime. Labour takes the responsibility of fixing
the problem for the future.

John Howard is probably going to lose the election and Rudd and
Gillard will take power - then all of Australia will be under Labor
control - even the crazy councils.

Hey, that is what the voters recognise that we need to fix this nation

Thank goodness, I've retired and paid off my mortgage. Actually, I'm
kind of looking forward to seeing Gillard as treasurer. After a few
terms of Labor in office - I can come back and buy investment properties.

Lol, you've already missed the first opportunity under Howard/Costello.


today is a garden digging day

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Jonno wrote:
The tide comes in and goes out.

Agree. Next thing,the colletive voter stupidity will have descended to
blaming droughts on either party.

Both parties end up with their noses in the feed trough.

Yep

Well, no digging so far, but plenty of firewood stacking

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Terryc wrote:
Jonno wrote:
The tide comes in and goes out.

Agree. Next thing,the collective voter stupidity will have descended to
blaming droughts on either party.
The lack of forethought by greedy corporations and government has left
us with no preparation for
storing/having adequate water.
For both a scarce resource means they can charge extra. Even though they
created the situation. The drought helped them.... I never vote for
people who sell of our assets. Look at water, electricity, telephone RTA
Vicroads etc etc.... Its bleeding obvious to me but the collective thats
another thing.
Both parties end up with their noses in the feed trough.

Yep

Well, no digging so far, but plenty of firewood stacking
What good is firewood when you want water to put out a damn fire.(grin!)

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"YMC" wrote in message

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...006029,00.html

Typical opinion piece by Andrew Bolt. Unfortunately, the stupid right wing
hack doesn't seem to know about "environmental flows" and that these were an
ititiative put in place by his beloved Federal Liberal Government. But
given that his readers are similarly uninformed they won't care so long as
he has a crack at a Labor Premier - who cares about the facts. The punters
who read him obviously don't.
http://www.environment.gov.au/water/...ers/index.html

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"Terryc" wrote in message
...
Lol, you've already missed the first opportunity under Howard/Costello.

Lol. I bought mine in 1992... cheap thanks to Keating. And sold them two
years back. Should I send a donation to the Labor Party then?

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It obvious that any "water initiative" is set up to benefit those who
have brought the utilities. Even the proposed pipeline from Goulburn is
to allow water "swapping" to the highest bidder.
I dont give a stuff who gets in, but I want them to look after the whole
community, and not only those who reckon they're born to rule.
If were doing so well why isn't is apparent with all of us and why are
the employment figures fudged?

I've allready learnt to ignore the "bolt on" Liberal party commentator.
His views are more radical than the anti communist libs that roamed free
all over Australia at one time. They were wiped out when the people
didn't want to take any more crap. We were shown a better way, despite
it becoming increasingly obvious that it wasn't the whole solution when
Fraser stepped in.




FarmI wrote:
"YMC" wrote in message

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...006029,00.html

Typical opinion piece by Andrew Bolt. Unfortunately, the stupid right wing
hack doesn't seem to know about "environmental flows" and that these were an
ititiative put in place by his beloved Federal Liberal Government. But
given that his readers are similarly uninformed they won't care so long as
he has a crack at a Labor Premier - who cares about the facts. The punters
who read him obviously don't.
http://www.environment.gov.au/water/...ers/index.html

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No No need , John Howard needs all the help he can get....
No seat, and Costello romps it home, as the leader of the opposition!
wilde wrote:
"Terryc" wrote in message
...
Lol, you've already missed the first opportunity under Howard/Costello.

Lol. I bought mine in 1992... cheap thanks to Keating. And sold them two
years back. Should I send a donation to the Labor Party then?

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

It obvious that any "water initiative" is set up to benefit those who
have brought the utilities. Even the proposed pipeline from Goulburn is
to allow water "swapping" to the highest bidder.
I dont give a stuff who gets in, but I want them to look after the whole
community, and not only those who reckon they're born to rule.
If were doing so well why isn't it apparent to all of us and why are the
employment figures fudged?

I've allready learnt to ignore the "bolt on" Liberal party commentator.
His views are more radical than the anti communist libs that roamed free
all over Australia at one time. They were wiped out when the people
didn't want to take any more crap. We were shown a better way, despite
it becoming increasingly obvious that it wasn't the whole solution when
Fraser stepped in.

FarmI wrote:
"YMC" wrote in message

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...006029,00.html

Typical opinion piece by Andrew Bolt. Unfortunately, the stupid right wing
hack doesn't seem to know about "environmental flows" and that these were an
ititiative put in place by his beloved Federal Liberal Government. But
given that his readers are similarly uninformed they won't care so long as
he has a crack at a Labor Premier - who cares about the facts. The punters
who read him obviously don't.
http://www.environment.gov.au/water/...ers/index.html

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

"Jonno" wrote in message
...
No No need , John Howard needs all the help he can get....
No seat, and Costello romps it home, as the leader of the opposition!

In a perverse way, I'm actually looking forward to Labor getting into power.
We'll probably get an interest rate hike to 18% in no time. Then I can buy
investment properties cheaply like I did when Keating was in charge. LOL,
I'm voting Labor. I hope you do too.

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

You seem to forget, Im a swinging voter.
As far as those far fetched interest rates go, that happened when the
banks were allowed to set their won interest rates and they showed their
general disgust with the general public. overseas banks soon brought in
competitors and the banks soon came to their senses. You cant rip the
heart out of a country and expect them to live.
You have to bleed people slowly. In other words, for those who think
slow like you, dont kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

wilde wrote:

"Jonno" wrote in message
...
No No need , John Howard needs all the help he can get....
No seat, and Costello romps it home, as the leader of the opposition!

In a perverse way, I'm actually looking forward to Labor getting into
power. We'll probably get an interest rate hike to 18% in no time. Then
I can buy investment properties cheaply like I did when Keating was in
charge. LOL, I'm voting Labor. I hope you do too.

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

You seem to forget, Im a swinging voter.
As far as those far fetched interest rates go, that happened when the
banks were allowed to set their own interest rates and they showed their
general disgust with the general public. Overseas banks soon brought in
competitors and the banks soon came to their senses. You cant rip the
heart out of a country and expect them to live.
You have to bleed people slowly. In other words, for those who think
slow like you, dont kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.


wilde wrote:

"Jonno" wrote in message
...
No No need , John Howard needs all the help he can get....
No seat, and Costello romps it home, as the leader of the opposition!

In a perverse way, I'm actually looking forward to Labor getting into
power. We'll probably get an interest rate hike to 18% in no time. Then
I can buy investment properties cheaply like I did when Keating was in
charge. LOL, I'm voting Labor. I hope you do too.

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

You seem to forget, Im a swinging voter.
As far as those far fetched interest rates go, that happened when the
banks were deregulated and shows you dont know what youre talking
about.. Overseas banks soon brought in competitors and the banks soon
came to their senses. You cant rip the heart out of a country and expect
them to live.
You have to bleed people slowly. In other words, for those who think
slow like you, dont kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.


wilde wrote:

"Jonno" wrote in message
...
No No need , John Howard needs all the help he can get....
No seat, and Costello romps it home, as the leader of the opposition!

In a perverse way, I'm actually looking forward to Labor getting into
power. We'll probably get an interest rate hike to 18% in no time. Then
I can buy investment properties cheaply like I did when Keating was in
charge. LOL, I'm voting Labor. I hope you do too.

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

"Jonno" wrote in message
It obvious that any "water initiative" is set up to benefit those who have
brought the utilities.

When it comes to environmental flows, it doesn't benefit those who've bought
the utilities, it benefits the rivers. The rivers will die totally and
irretrievably unless they have those environmental flows

Even the proposed pipeline from Goulburn is
to allow water "swapping" to the highest bidder.
I dont give a stuff who gets in, but I want them to look after the whole
community, and not only those who reckon they're born to rule.
If were doing so well why isn't it apparent to all of us and why are the
employment figures fudged?

Supposedly the way the stats now work is so that they comply with
international standards. That's all well and good and I wouldn't mind at
all if we weren't fed the line of "lowest unemployment figures in 32 years".
They're comparing apples with oranges and the sodding media never seem to be
able to figure out that the counting method has changed.

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

"wilde" wrote in message

In a perverse way, I'm actually looking forward to Labor getting into
power. We'll probably get an interest rate hike to 18% in no time. Then I
can buy investment properties cheaply like I did when Keating was in
charge. LOL, I'm voting Labor. I hope you do too.

Well I hope you took advantage of the time when Howard was Treasurer. He
still has the distinction of being the Treasurer to have the highest
interest rate at +20%. IIRC, the interest rate got to 21.9%.

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

Youve got to admit he got a better treasures in since, but he is a bit
callous and cynical. And he ought to work on that smile..He looks like a
croc.


FarmI wrote:
"wilde" wrote in message

In a perverse way, I'm actually looking forward to Labor getting into
power. We'll probably get an interest rate hike to 18% in no time. Then I
can buy investment properties cheaply like I did when Keating was in
charge. LOL, I'm voting Labor. I hope you do too.

Well I hope you took advantage of the time when Howard was Treasurer. He
still has the distinction of being the Treasurer to have the highest
interest rate at +20%. IIRC, the interest rate got to 21.9%.

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

wilde wrote:

Then I can buy investment properties cheaply like I did when
Keating was in charge. LOL, I'm voting Labor. I hope you do too.

I bet you didn't have the money to buy any investment properties.

Don't forget Howard has the pathetic distinction of allowing the
highest interest rates that Australians have ever suffered.

Besides that, Howard is the biggest liar that Australia has ever
known - Port Arthur, GST, Children Overboard, Iraq and WMD and
don't forget the $200,000,000 to pull his pathetic brother out
of the shit and the "FREE" Trade agreement with the USA.
Oh, did I mention WorkChoices? LOL... Slavery.
The way he licks Yankee arse is soooooo.... pathetic.

Roll on the election and Bye-Bye Johnny.

I hear he has finally got some guts and may announce it on Sunday?

The sooner the better, good riddance and **** off!

Paul

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

Lets hope so. He hasnt got his seat anymore it seems, so people cant
kick him in the seat.

Paul wrote:
wilde wrote:

Then I can buy investment properties cheaply like I did when Keating
was in charge. LOL, I'm voting Labor. I hope you do too.

I bet you didn't have the money to buy any investment properties.

Don't forget Howard has the pathetic distinction of allowing the
highest interest rates that Australians have ever suffered.

Besides that, Howard is the biggest liar that Australia has ever
known - Port Arthur, GST, Children Overboard, Iraq and WMD and
don't forget the $200,000,000 to pull his pathetic brother out
of the shit and the "FREE" Trade agreement with the USA.
Oh, did I mention WorkChoices? LOL... Slavery.
The way he licks Yankee arse is soooooo.... pathetic.

Roll on the election and Bye-Bye Johnny.

I hear he has finally got some guts and may announce it on Sunday?

The sooner the better, good riddance and **** off!

Paul

Love the lack of water dont you?
 

Whoops Still cant water my garden when I want to.
D'ya reckon the man of steal can make it rain?

Paul wrote:
wilde wrote:

Then I can buy investment properties cheaply like I did when Keating
was in charge. LOL, I'm voting Labor. I hope you do too.

I bet you didn't have the money to buy any investment properties.

Don't forget Howard has the pathetic distinction of allowing the
highest interest rates that Australians have ever suffered.

Besides that, Howard is the biggest liar that Australia has ever
known - Port Arthur, GST, Children Overboard, Iraq and WMD and
don't forget the $200,000,000 to pull his pathetic brother out
of the shit and the "FREE" Trade agreement with the USA.
Oh, did I mention WorkChoices? LOL... Slavery.
The way he licks Yankee arse is soooooo.... pathetic.

Roll on the election and Bye-Bye Johnny.

I hear he has finally got some guts and may announce it on Sunday?

The sooner the better, good riddance and **** off!

Paul