Be aware.
 

Gooday all
Be aware there are some in this gardening area who are looking to attack
your computers by giving false links and phishing sites.

They will gain your confidence and take over your computer by various means.

It pays to stay clear of these persons.

Dont click on any links and make sure your anti spyware and anti virus
programs are up to date.
And last of all, they can impersonate others as well...
They have done so to me lately..
Regards and all. Happy gardening...

Be aware.
 

"Jon" wrote in message
u...
Gooday all
Be aware there are some in this gardening area who are looking to attack
your computers by giving false links and phishing sites.
They will gain your confidence and take over your computer by various
means.

It pays to stay clear of these persons.

Dont click on any links and make sure your anti spyware and anti virus
programs are up to date.
And last of all, they can impersonate others as well...
They have done so to me lately..
Regards and all. Happy gardening...

How do we know that you are not impersonating yourself?

David

Come to that, how do we know you are not someone with a vested
interest ? Perhaps you are trying to discredit everyone else just to
make more room for yourself.

Seriously though, you should all make sure your security is up to date,
and if any website suggests you disable your security, DON'T !!!
Allways have your anti-virus, firewall, adblocker, and anything else you
can think of.
Personally, I never allow cookies under any circumstances, because they
can also contain spyware. Also, as I said before, best to encrypt your hard drive, just to be doubly sure.

You could also try wrapping your head in cooking foil and keeping your
left foot in a bucket of whipped cream, if you are really that paranoid.

Be aware.
 

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:37:05 +1000, David Hare-Scott wrote:

And last of all, they can impersonate others as well... They have done
so to me lately..
Regards and all. Happy gardening...

How do we know that you are not impersonating yourself?

And are demostrating that you are totally mad by giving answers to
yourself underanother name? {:-).

I do hope that by your comments you were not trying to imply that the site recommended by C Fiske was in any way suspect.

That site is ran by my son, Tom, and is bona fide. I would resent any suggestion otherwise.

Provided that you have adequate security protection, and if not shame on you, you can safely inspect the software he is kindly
offering. If there were any problems your security would flag a warning.

I know some outdated systems are very vulnerable, and would suggest you try Linux as an alternative OS.

By the way, most ISPs record all your e-mail addresses, all the
sites you visit, and any info you provide them upon sign-up,
this they sell on for around 24p sterling each. Multiply this by
all their customers and you will see they make a fat profit. Mind you, mobile phone companies do this as well.

Bearing this in mind, I suggest you aquaint yourself with all the facts before you make slanderous remarks.

Be aware.
 

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:46:10 +0100, Tim Perry wrote:


Be aware there are some in this gardening area who are looking to attack

I do hope that by your comments you were not trying to imply that the site
recommended by C Fiske was in any way suspect.

That site is ran by my son, Tom, and is bona fide. I would resent any
suggestion otherwise.

Sadly, your son's actions in promoting his site are typical of spammers
and scammers, as is your supporting umbrage.

Bearing this in mind, I suggest you aquaint yourself with all the facts
before you make slanderous remarks.

Lol, thanks for clarifying that your "son" is a scammer.

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"Tim Perry" wrote in message

Be aware there are some in this gardening area who are looking to
attack ........

I do hope that by your comments you were not trying to imply that the
site recommended by C Fiske was in any way suspect.

That site is ran by my son, Tom, and is bona fide. I would resent any
suggestion otherwise.
(snip)
Bearing this in mind, I suggest you aquaint yourself with all the facts
before you make slanderous remarks.

And why don't you and your son both drop dead.

Your son's post was totally OT on this ng and if your son chooses to post
spam here then I'm very supportive of anyone who chooses to slander him.
And IF you think that Jon did that, then you have comprehension problems as
he did no such thing.

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"Jon" wrote in message
Gooday all
Be aware there are some in this gardening area who are looking to attack
your computers by giving false links and phishing sites.
They will gain your confidence and take over your computer by various
means.

It pays to stay clear of these persons.

Dont click on any links and make sure your anti spyware and anti virus
programs are up to date.
And last of all, they can impersonate others as well...
They have done so to me lately..

And also there is a new Trojan going around that is attached to a very
poorly written notice about how "you've been doing illegal downloads on the
internet and your ISP is going to disconnect you. See your record of
illegal activities in the attachment". And my ISP hasn't yet filtered such
stuff out and I'm not even sure if the lalest download of my security
software can pick it up yet.

Having had a chat to my son and explained the kind of response his kindness prompted, he has decided that the
simplest solution is to deny access to any request from your
country. That way you won't have to live in fear that the bogey man is gonna get you. It's just a shame that you choose to spoil it for everyone else.

Be aware.
 

No its been documented that nutty geeks and people who steal passwords
etc are targeting these areas.
It pays to not use your real email address and the people who just gave
me the "works" just now
have the vested interest.
You can find all about it using google and wikipedia.

under scamming phishing passwords key loggers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing dont go here unless you feel
safe, but it is the kind of thing they do.
This is a naked link Others are hidden Dont click on those
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...puter_security)

One search found
Anti-virus firm Sophos reports that hackers have posted messages on some
30,000 Internet message boards and usenet newsgroups declaring that
photographs of the hanging suicide of Osama bin Laden could be found on
certain Web sites. The links lead users to a Trojan horse.

Virus writers have come up with another social-engineering tactic to
dupe computer users into clicking onto an infected Web site.

According to the anti-virus firm Sophos, hackers have posted messages on
some 30,000 Internet message boards and usenet newsgroups declaring that
photographs of the hanging suicide of Osama bin Laden could be found on
certain Web sites.

"This is a Trojan horse, so it will not replicate as quickly as a virus
does," Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant for Sophos, tells
NewsFactor. Nor is it a new Trojan horse, he continues. "It has been
around for months. What is new is the posting of messages and use of bin
Laden as a ploy to get people to click on the Web site."

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Its not us spoiling it, its the scammers who do so.
Unfortunately, its hard to tell the difference at times.
The company I work for does not allow any access on the internet at all.
Makes every one secure, and you dont have to be paranoid to want to be
safe...

Be aware.
 

This is an example of the type of twits that get annoyed when you tell
people whats really happening.
Be concerend about this type of milligrub

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"mulligrub" ] wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote:
"Jon" wrote in message
Gooday all
Be aware there are some in this gardening area who are looking to attack
your computers by giving false links and phishing sites.
They will gain your confidence and take over your computer by various
means.

It pays to stay clear of these persons.

Dont click on any links and make sure your anti spyware and anti virus
programs are up to date.
And last of all, they can impersonate others as well...
They have done so to me lately..

And also there is a new Trojan going around that is attached to a very
poorly written notice about how "you've been doing illegal downloads on
the internet and your ISP is going to disconnect you. See your record
of
illegal activities in the attachment". And my ISP hasn't yet filtered
such
stuff out and I'm not even sure if the lalest download of my security
software can pick it up yet.

You would open and read such a topic/subject?

Oh.. you have. Cos you have.

[shakes head in awe]

Don't be stupid. Of course I haven't opened the attachment. The first
thing I did when I read the illiterate email I received was to go onto the
Web and do a hunt for Trojans. It's new and all warnings I could find on
the Net seem to be dated from 15 September. See if your virus sofware will
pick it up:
http://www.pc1news.com/news/0222/don...suspended.html

Right, Let me explain this once, and then we can all get back to gardening issues.

A lady that my son helped with her computer problems thought it would be nice to share info on a software prog, so she posted it.
And that's it, that's all there is.
Yes, he belongs to a very small group of computer programming enthusiasts who like to swap the software they have written.
He does not head some giant international scam to steal all your priceless photographic art.
We have done nothing to warrant such a response, but seeing that it has upset so many people, he has withdrawn the offer.

Be aware.
 

No one said that the offer was a scam.
But until the net becomes a safer place, usenet is not a very good place
to do this.
Set up a website and let us know by all means, but advertise the fact by
other means.
As far as withdrawing the offer goes, there are so many offers on the
Internet, that they get lost.
The best way to do this is by adding it to the google search engine.
Regarding hurt feelings, many have wondered why they were suddenly
infected.
Unfortunately the animals sneak in with the humans. This is what happens
regularly with "posers"
who pretend to help, when they are really scamming people. You dont have
to be paranoid to avoid being infected.
If you dont understand this by now, you should.
The nasty responses I have gotten by writing about this shows what I mean.
I repair computers part time and I see regular occurrences of this
happening.
People click on a link and its malicious.
I was not attacking anyone like you " if you're genuine", but safety is
paramount, and a genuine person who understand that.

Be aware.
 

No one said that the offer was a scam.
But until the net becomes a safer place, usenet is not a very good place
to do this.
Set up a website and let us know by all means, but advertise the fact by
other means.
As far as withdrawing the offer goes, there are so many offers on the
Internet, that they get lost.
The best way to do this is by adding it to the google search engine.
Regarding hurt feelings, many have wondered why they were suddenly
infected.
Unfortunately the animals sneak in with the humans. This is what happens
regularly with "posers"
who pretend to help, when they are really scamming people. You dont have
to be paranoid to avoid being infected.
If you dont understand this by now, you should.
The nasty responses I have gotten by writing about this shows what I mean.
I repair computers part time and I see regular occurrences of this
happening.
People click on a link and its malicious.
I was not attacking anyone like you " if you're genuine", but safety is
paramount, and a genuine person would understand that.
You seem to be very touchy about this, so it remains to be seen.

Be aware.
 

"mulligrub" ] wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote:
"mulligrub" ] wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote:
"Jon" wrote in message
Gooday all
Be aware there are some in this gardening area who are looking to
attack
your computers by giving false links and phishing sites.
They will gain your confidence and take over your computer by various
means.

It pays to stay clear of these persons.

Dont click on any links and make sure your anti spyware and anti virus
programs are up to date.
And last of all, they can impersonate others as well...
They have done so to me lately..

And also there is a new Trojan going around that is attached to a very
poorly written notice about how "you've been doing illegal downloads on
the internet and your ISP is going to disconnect you. See your record
of
illegal activities in the attachment". And my ISP hasn't yet filtered
such
stuff out and I'm not even sure if the lalest download of my security
software can pick it up yet.

You would open and read such a topic/subject?

Oh.. you have. Cos you have.

[shakes head in awe]

Don't be stupid.
Be very sure the description does not fit.

Thanks for the advice but I don't need it. I wasn't the one to assume that
another poster was stupid enough to open an attachment solely on the basis
of a warning response to the OP.

Of course I haven't opened the attachment.

Good to hear.
I knew that Jon (who is that man?) was taking a liberty
in judging Gardeners so lowly!

Once again I see that comment as being a case of the pot calling the kettle
black. I didn't read Jon's post as being a personal affront to me or as
taking liberties about any gardener either specifically or globally.

I read it as a post from someone who had recently had the frustration of a
problem on his PC. Since I too had just received the Trojan spam and was
ticked off that neither my antivirus software or that of my ISP had managed
to filter it out, I could well identify with his being ****ed off. If you
can't than that is your problem.

The first thing I did when I read the illiterate email I received was to
go onto the
Web and do a hunt for Trojans. It's new and all warnings I could find on
the Net seem to be dated from 15 September. See if your virus sofware
will
pick it up:
http://www.pc1news.com/news/0222/don...suspended.html

The first thing I did was to cut and paste http://www.pc1news.com.
Next I found the article myself using the links on that page.
No.. it is not that I do not trust *you*, I don't _trust_ your skills.
How do I know you are a Guru? How do I know you are not a Guru?
I do the work myself.
That is Smart.

Indeed, it is smart but once again, I will point out to you, that you
automatically assumed that I was stupid enough to open an attachment. That
isn't smart because you did so on the basis of no evidence whatsoever. I
never said I opened the attachment so if you had doubts it would have been
smart to do the work you should have done and asked me if I had opened it.
You didn't do that work. Not smart.

Be aware.
 

"Tim Perry" wrote in message

Right, Let me explain this once, and then we can all get back to
gardening issues.

A lady that my son helped with her computer problems thought it would
be nice to share info on a software prog, so she posted it.
And that's it, that's all there is.
Yes, he belongs to a very small group of computer programming
enthusiasts who like to swap the software they have written.
He does not head some giant international scam to steal all your
priceless photographic art.
We have done nothing to warrant such a response, but seeing that it has
upset so many people, he has withdrawn the offer.

Did "nothing to warrant such a response"? Get over yourself. Jon didn't
accuse your son of posting spam or of slander but YOU took it on board that
he had done so. IF you choose to be paranoid and issue accusations on the
basis of your own paranoia then you must expect what you get, and you got
what you deserve.

Be aware.
 

Thanks for backing me up Farm1
I had the pleasure of taking a phone call one morning (which I reported
to the police) threatening to do me in.
Possible because I was helping someone as his/her system was being used
as a bot and its screwed his careful setup.
The person trying to use their won computer knew he was infected.
I laughed at the "idiot" on the phone and called his bluff.
Sadly he didnt leave a message the second time when the answering
machine was on.

But by replying to him at different times, I had inadvertently allowed
him onto my system.
Somehow the programs they use allows them access to your computer. My
phone number was on the computer somewhere.
I did it as an experiment by baiting the "idiot" to see how secure my
computer was, and was not surprised
that we are all at risk.
Something to think about while asking questions on this forum.
Yep I am disgusted by these happenings too.
Its almost like being on a city street and having to put up with the
dregs of society.
These guys also impersonate others as well as agreeing with themselves
under different names in this forum using a program, which
is quite legitimate called Agent. it has one redeeming feature in that
its easily traced.
They can hide but will be found....
I'm very angry that these people, without brains, dont see that they
are the reason the world ends up kicking them up the bum,
and they will never amount to much because of their attitude.
Then they play the blame game.

Be aware.
 

You having a sickie, Jon?
No pal were investigating you.
Some day soon!

Be aware.
 

RB Milligrub what ever your new fantasy name is.

Dont know why youre so exited.

Others are also wondering.
Why pick on gardening when its obviously hanging around computers being
mischievious?

That's fair enough Jon, and I will take heed of your comments, I
suppose if I was a scammer I would have known all that anyway.
But I have to say, the posting was made before I was aware, and done in all innocence, and with the best of intentions.

I only became involved when it appeared that my son was being 'got at', and then I was quite naturally annoyed.

Had someone taken the trouble to explain earlier, rather than resort to insult and swearing, it would have been fine.
Maybe over there that sort of thing is considered O.K., but here
it would provoke a very different reaction.

Anyway, I can promise you that on-one suffered any breach of their privacy as a result of that site, so no harm done.
Let's just leave it at that.

Be aware.
 

*Just to show you what can be done... See below and verify from link...


From this link : http://tinyurl.com/4kgvhp
"They" get very annoyed when I put this into these areas, yet any search
will find the details


## Connections make the world go round ##*

The computer world, at any rate. Every single time you open up a
website, send an email or upload your webpages into cyberspace, you are
connecting to another machine in order to get the job done. This, of
course, presents a major problem, because this simple act is what allows
malicious users to target a machine in the first place.

*# How do these people find their victim?*

Well, first of all, they need to get hold of the victim's IP Address.
Your IP (Internet Protocol) address reveals your point of entry to the
Internet and can be used in many ways to cause your online activities
many, many problems. It may not reveal you by name, but it may be
uniquely identifiable and it represents your digital ID while you are
online (especially so if you're on a fixed IP / DSL etc).

With an IP address, a Hacker can find out all sorts of weird and
wonderful things about their victim (as well as causing all kinds of
other trouble, the biggest two being Portnukes/Trojans and the dreaded
DoS ((Denial of Service)) attack). Some Hackers like to collect IP
Addresses like badges, and like to go back to old targets, messing them
around every so often. An IP address is incredibly easy to obtain -
until recently, many realtime chat applications (such as MSN) were
goldmines of information. Your IP Address is contained as part of the
Header Code on all emails that you send and webpages that you visit can
store all kinds of information about you. A common trick is for the
Hacker to go into a Chatroom, paste his supposed website address all
over the place, and when the unsuspecting victim visits, everything
about your computer from the operating system to the screen resolution
can be logged...and, of course, the all important IP address. In
addition, a simple network-wide port scan will reveal vulnerable target
machines, and a war-dialler will scan thousands of lines for exposed
modems that the hacker can exploit.

So now that you know some of the basic dangers, you're probably
wondering how these people connect to a victim's machine?

Be aware.
 

I am not nasty like you.
Youre a victim of your own upbringing.
Youre still getting upset at being exposed, or me exposing what goes on
Usenet?

Be aware.
 

Why am I an idiot? It fits you better Askclown
You call me names, just because of warning what you guys have been doing.
The response from you is idiotic, unless you have a reason to flame me.
I would suggest if they havent installed a program called spybot, they
should, to see if theyre infected.
But if you have adaware installed it will conflict at this point in time.
(look it up on the internet google it and wikipedia should give you
the correct sites)
Dont go the sites which may/could be the source for infection,
posing as these programs, which is happening more and more.

I am not giving you any links due to clueless parrots and clowns could
accuse me of
trying to compromise your machines.

Be aware.
 

"mulligrub" ] wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote:
"mulligrub" ] wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote:

/prune


Don't be stupid.
Be very sure the description does not fit.

Thanks for the advice but I don't need it.

/prune

Oi..!!
I was referring to myself.

Fair enough.

For the rest?
I discount it three ways.
One, you do not read so good.

I will admit that I do have trouble reading forms of English that don't
follow the normal conventions. Your posts often don't make sense but I had
assumed that was a deliberate policy on your part.

Two, you are dodging - after the fact.

If it makes you feel good to think so, go right ahead.

Threeeeee, you need to take your own advice.
"Get over yourself."

Fair enough.

eh, maaaaaaaaaate!

Now, can everyone just settle and can that
Spammers arse by dropping the Topic?

OK by me, but as the ng is otherwise a bit slow at the moment (and in the
best traditions of thread drift), perhaps you can start by saying what are
you doing in the garden?

Never mind Ignore me.
 

I tried.

Be aware.
 

"mulligrub" ] wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote:

OK by me, but as the ng is otherwise a bit slow at the moment (and in the
best traditions of thread drift), perhaps you can start by saying what are
you doing in the garden?

The newsgroup is slow as posters are not going to contribute whilst
you yourself (and others so inclined) are feeding a troll,

You are right of course. You are a troll. From now on you go into my
killfile. .