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Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? |
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) |
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wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? Books are out. The Net is in... It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) Yep google webpage put in "Australian snakes and their habits" This is what I got # [PDF] Whip Snakes & Marsh Snakes File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Yellow-faced Whip Snakes and their relatives extend over much of. Australia. While plentiful in most habitats, they tend to avoid moist ... http://www.qm.qld.gov.au/inquiry/fac...eaflet0022.pdf # Jennifer Marohasy: Crikey! Burn Habitat To Save Endangered Snake "Rick reveals the threats to their bush habitat in south-eastern New South Wales. ..... Australian Museum. Threats to the Broad-headed Snake - ... http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog...es/001612.html # [PDF] Habitat requirements of the threatened snake species Hoplocephalus ... File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML but information on their habitat requirements should be central to management planning. ...... is the case with other arboreal Australian snakes, struc- ... http://www.bio.usyd.edu.au/Shinelab/...habitatreq.pdf - # Spectacular Snakes of Australia of their heads, as opposed to the small, bead-like scales present in carpet pythons. ... habitat west of Townsville. Spectacular Snakes of Australia ... http://www.publish.csiro.au/samples/...a%20sample.pdf |
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FarmI wrote:
Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. They breed in spring as soon as it is warm enough to allow them to move about easily. Which is why you will find them moving about more at that time, they are looking for a mate. We find the most snake road kill at that time. David |
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"phil..c" wrote in message
wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
FarmI wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. They breed in spring as soon as it is warm enough to allow them to move about easily. Which is why you will find them moving about more at that time, they are looking for a mate. We find the most snake road kill at that time. Thanks for that. I'd thought they bred in Spring too. |
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On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote:
If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening? |
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terryc wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote: If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening? Rattlers are everywhere! |
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"terryc" wrote in message
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote: If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening? Snort! |
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"jonno" wrote in message ... terryc wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote: If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening? Rattlers are everywhere! Stirrers with brown arms too...... |
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SG1 wrote:
"jonno" wrote in message ... terryc wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote: If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening? Rattlers are everywhere! Stirrers with brown arms too...... Kevin said Shit! |
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SG1 wrote:
"jonno" wrote in message ... terryc wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote: If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening? Rattlers are everywhere! Stirrers with brown arms too...... Not surprising. Kev in used the sh*t word, so every did! The Nation's full of it. |
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FarmI wrote:
"phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 annonnymouse |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
FarmI wrote: "phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 annonnymouse Its sad that you have to be anonomous to a response here at times due to viscous responses... Bad tempered ladysnake? |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
FarmI wrote: "phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 annonnymouse She's only rational when the full moon phase goes away Its a wonder sometimes that she gets a reponse... Thats only my opinion of course. As a male I shouldnt have one according to one who married a goose. Geese are good with snakes as a rule. |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! It was rather grumpy At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. That's true but I think the question was starting with a generalisation about info on any snakes of the continent, if their behaviour was greatly different it could come out in the detail Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. There was fault on both sides. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 annonnymouse Like the many thousands of usenet posters from the USA who never identify which continent they are on because there is only one that matters. And who get confused by it being hot in January in some parts of the world and who want to argue that the sunny side of the garden is the south because anything else is so counter-intuitive. For quite a while there were wikipedia articles that gave planting instructions in months of the year, ie plant out your eggplant in April-May rather than in spring after the last frost. I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world would be better with less than the current plethora. David |
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David Hare-Scott wrote:
snip I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world would be better with less than the current plethora. David Fair - and balanced - comment. We all, at times, tend to over-react :-) annonnymouse |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
David Hare-Scott wrote: snip I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world would be better with less than the current plethora. David Fair - and balanced - comment. We all, at times, tend to over-react :-) annonnymouse Its rathe r funny that she is married t oa goose of a man. She should know this, geese are rather good with snakes....as a rule... |
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"a_nonny_mouse" wrote in message
... FarmI wrote: "phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given what you go on to say in the last line of your post. At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 Try rereading what I wrote in my original post. I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake. THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes. Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes? |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world would be better with less than the current plethora. Parochial???? Is this not a group that specifically relates to Australian gardens? |
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FarmI wrote:
"a_nonny_mouse" wrote in message ... FarmI wrote: "phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". grin A sense of humour ;-) (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given what you go on to say in the last line of your post. Well ... I did actually But I am not one to contradict a lady ;-P At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) Should have read in "miles", not "kms" Old age confusion. And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 Yep, as you surmise! Last line means I was open to a question of being stupid for buying into this one How did you read it? Try rereading what I wrote in my original post. I did; several times before responding! Was not sure if your were "taking the mickey" I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake. Yep - coastal Australia Somewhere between Brisbane and north of Perth - some 3000 miles direct (Perth-Brisbane) or whatever you wish to measure it as around the coast. THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes. You are correct; your enquiry pinpoints your location ;-) I live in an area reknown for Tiger snakes. Yep; I shot one on my back verandah Was hiding under a child's toy car! Therefore you are located in Western Australia! Somewhere from the mid-west down to the south west. Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes? Google is your friend ;-) eg tiger snake location "The common tiger snake is found in southern and eastern Australia. They are usually around a metre long, and have a striped marking (hence the name Tiger Snake). This is not always the case however, as the markings can change due to the seasons and the age of the snake. They can grow up to 1.5 metres in length. These are venomous snakes, and will attack if they are disturbed or threatened. Otherwise, they can live quietly. They are also often territorial, and will live in the same area for years. They are also found in suburban areas, even in the newer suburbs. One elderly women was bitten by a tiger snake while she pruned the ivy on her fence, in Kew (an inner suburb of Melbourne, in 2003). Death resulted from this bite. However this is quite rare these days, as anti venene is readily available. These snakes feed on all types of creatures, they happily feed on frogs, fish, small birds and other small mammals. They also eat other reptiles such as lizards. Tiger Snake related websites: " ================== OR (from the same enquiry): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake and surprise!! "Habitat Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks where they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such as frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution extends from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia, Tasmania, up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat includes the coastal areas of Australia." ================ AND on BREEDING (from Google): tiger snake breeding "Breeding Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth. Female litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter size is often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small islands produce fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215 - 270 mm in length. Females produce young at best every second year. There is no maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not become more aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake tracking a female may well have his mind on other things and may be more easily surprised or be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently be more nervous if disturbed." ============== Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs? Apologies! did not mean to upset you. annonnymouse PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot) |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
FarmI wrote: "a_nonny_mouse" wrote in message ... FarmI wrote: "phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". grin A sense of humour ;-) (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given what you go on to say in the last line of your post. Well ... I did actually But I am not one to contradict a lady ;-P At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) Should have read in "miles", not "kms" Old age confusion. And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 Yep, as you surmise! Last line means I was open to a question of being stupid for buying into this one How did you read it? Try rereading what I wrote in my original post. I did; several times before responding! Was not sure if your were "taking the mickey" I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake. Yep - coastal Australia Somewhere between Brisbane and north of Perth - some 3000 miles direct (Perth-Brisbane) or whatever you wish to measure it as around the coast. THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes. You are correct; your enquiry pinpoints your location ;-) I live in an area reknown for Tiger snakes. Yep; I shot one on my back verandah Was hiding under a child's toy car! Therefore you are located in Western Australia! Somewhere from the mid-west down to the south west. Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes? Google is your friend ;-) eg tiger snake location "The common tiger snake is found in southern and eastern Australia. They are usually around a metre long, and have a striped marking (hence the name Tiger Snake). This is not always the case however, as the markings can change due to the seasons and the age of the snake. They can grow up to 1.5 metres in length. These are venomous snakes, and will attack if they are disturbed or threatened. Otherwise, they can live quietly. They are also often territorial, and will live in the same area for years. They are also found in suburban areas, even in the newer suburbs. One elderly women was bitten by a tiger snake while she pruned the ivy on her fence, in Kew (an inner suburb of Melbourne, in 2003). Death resulted from this bite. However this is quite rare these days, as anti venene is readily available. These snakes feed on all types of creatures, they happily feed on frogs, fish, small birds and other small mammals. They also eat other reptiles such as lizards. Tiger Snake related websites: " ================== OR (from the same enquiry): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake and surprise!! "Habitat Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks where they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such as frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution extends from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia, Tasmania, up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat includes the coastal areas of Australia." ================ AND on BREEDING (from Google): tiger snake breeding "Breeding Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth. Female litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter size is often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small islands produce fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215 - 270 mm in length. Females produce young at best every second year. There is no maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not become more aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake tracking a female may well have his mind on other things and may be more easily surprised or be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently be more nervous if disturbed." ============== Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs? Apologies! did not mean to upset you. annonnymouse PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot) As with most things "computer" and communication, one must be patient, lest one upsets those who are not so gifted in patience. I take the mickey out of anyone and anything, after all, were a long time dead, and we should have some fun. Geese (or is it gooses) are usually good with snakes.. Ya should let the "goose of a man" take it out with a shotty... While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live, theyre bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of the snake. So be it. As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going a bit far... Lets all close the subject. |
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On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:34:12 GMT, jonno wrote:
a_nonny_mouse wrote: FarmI wrote: "a_nonny_mouse" wrote in message ... FarmI wrote: "phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". grin A sense of humour ;-) (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given what you go on to say in the last line of your post. Well ... I did actually But I am not one to contradict a lady ;-P At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) Should have read in "miles", not "kms" Old age confusion. And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 Yep, as you surmise! Last line means I was open to a question of being stupid for buying into this one How did you read it? Try rereading what I wrote in my original post. I did; several times before responding! Was not sure if your were "taking the mickey" I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake. Yep - coastal Australia Somewhere between Brisbane and north of Perth - some 3000 miles direct (Perth-Brisbane) or whatever you wish to measure it as around the coast. THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes. You are correct; your enquiry pinpoints your location ;-) I live in an area reknown for Tiger snakes. Yep; I shot one on my back verandah Was hiding under a child's toy car! Therefore you are located in Western Australia! Somewhere from the mid-west down to the south west. Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes? Google is your friend ;-) eg tiger snake location "The common tiger snake is found in southern and eastern Australia. They are usually around a metre long, and have a striped marking (hence the name Tiger Snake). This is not always the case however, as the markings can change due to the seasons and the age of the snake. They can grow up to 1.5 metres in length. These are venomous snakes, and will attack if they are disturbed or threatened. Otherwise, they can live quietly. They are also often territorial, and will live in the same area for years. They are also found in suburban areas, even in the newer suburbs. One elderly women was bitten by a tiger snake while she pruned the ivy on her fence, in Kew (an inner suburb of Melbourne, in 2003). Death resulted from this bite. However this is quite rare these days, as anti venene is readily available. These snakes feed on all types of creatures, they happily feed on frogs, fish, small birds and other small mammals. They also eat other reptiles such as lizards. Tiger Snake related websites: " ================== OR (from the same enquiry): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake and surprise!! "Habitat Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks where they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such as frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution extends from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia, Tasmania, up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat includes the coastal areas of Australia." ================ AND on BREEDING (from Google): tiger snake breeding "Breeding Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth. Female litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter size is often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small islands produce fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215 - 270 mm in length. Females produce young at best every second year. There is no maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not become more aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake tracking a female may well have his mind on other things and may be more easily surprised or be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently be more nervous if disturbed." ============== Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs? Apologies! did not mean to upset you. annonnymouse PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot) As with most things "computer" and communication, one must be patient, lest one upsets those who are not so gifted in patience. I take the mickey out of anyone and anything, after all, were a long time dead, and we should have some fun. Geese (or is it gooses) are usually good with snakes.. Ya should let the "goose of a man" take it out with a shotty... While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live, theyre bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of the snake. So be it. As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going a bit far... Lets all close the subject. But, but first lets not forget that Tiger snakes "can" be very aggressive and dangerous..... |
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FarmI wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world would be better with less than the current plethora. Parochial???? Is this not a group that specifically relates to Australian gardens? Of course. D |
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NWF (Dont ask)
Lets all close the subject. Aawww! But yes, seems fair and sensible, provided the questions have been answered satisfactorily. keep smiling annonnymouse |
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jonno wrote:
a_nonny_mouse wrote: snip snake related info PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot) As with most things "computer" and communication, one must be patient, lest one upsets those who are not so gifted in patience. Too true. Used to be very patient. Guess in getting old, there is less time in which to be patient. That's my story and I'm sticking to it ;-P I take the mickey out of anyone and anything, after all, we're a long time dead, and we should have some fun. Yep; a smile a day keeps the doctor away; or perhaps at least, at bay. Geese (or is it gooses) are usually good with snakes.. So I've heard. No personal experience. I have also heard they are good with roast vegetables. Ya should let the "goose of a man" take it out with a shotty... I dooded that as previously stated. A nice little orchard gun (.410) took care of the problem. Others were just chased off the property. Did not have any choice, not being one to get up close and personal with wire, shovel or hose pipe. Do you know how long it takes to find the keys, unlock the gun cabinet, take out the firearm, unlock to ammunition locker, take out a packet of shells, load the weapon and make haste to the last known location of the intruder? While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live, they're bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of the snake. So be it. I try to do gooder; I no longer attempt to run over a snake on the road. If they keep their distance, I keep mine. However snake(s) are one thing which send chills up my spine; as one would expect of a good little mouse. As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going a bit far... Intrusion on the family life you think? Not enough respect for privacy? Lets all close the subject. Aawww! But yes, seems fair and sensible, provided the questions have been answered satisfactorily. keep smiling annonnymouse |
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While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live, they're bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of the snake. So be it. I try to do gooder; I no longer attempt to run over a snake on the road. Heck that could be the reason so many car accidents happen in the country roads snakes playing chicken with cars.... snakes winning.... Youve heard of vindscreen vipers... If they keep their distance, I keep mine. However snake(s) are one thing which send chills up my spine; as one would expect of a good little mouse. As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going a bit far... Intrusion on the family life you think? Not enough respect for privacy? Lets all close the subject. Aawww! But yes, seems fair and sensible, provided the questions have been answered satisfactorily. keep smiling annonnymouse |
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jonno wrote:
While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live, they're bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of the snake. So be it. I try to do gooder; I no longer attempt to run over a snake on the road. Heck that could be the reason so many car accidents happen in the country roads snakes playing chicken with cars.... snakes winning.... Youve heard of vindscreen vipers... chuckle stumped! speechless! gotta pay that one for the day! snip annonnymouse (still chuckling) |
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jonno wrote:
NWF (Dont ask) Why not (ask, that is)? (quizzical look) annonnymouse |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
jonno wrote: NWF (Dont ask) Why not (ask, that is)? (quizzical look) annonnymous As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one. |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
jonno wrote: a_nonny_mouse wrote: jonno wrote: NWF (Dont ask) Why not (ask, that is)? (quizzical look) annonnymous As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one. lol Shame on you A typical male response And a typical female. Youre dying to know! keep smiling annonnymouse I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you.... I dont think you'd like that or want to know it that desperately.... |
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jonno wrote:
a_nonny_mouse wrote: jonno wrote: NWF (Dont ask) Why not (ask, that is)? (quizzical look) annonnymous As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one. lol Shame on you A typical male response keep smiling annonnymouse |
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jonno wrote:
a_nonny_mouse wrote: jonno wrote: a_nonny_mouse wrote: jonno wrote: NWF (Dont ask) Why not (ask, that is)? (quizzical look) annonnymous As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one. lol Shame on you A typical male response And a typical female. Youre dying to know! A male chauvinist yet? Thought you were at least a metrosexual with a sense of humour! I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you.... With the sound of the vacuum cleaner ringing in my ears and the washing machine chattering away, death seems reasonable at the moment. Only the cuppa coffee keeping me sane / alive I dont think you'd like that or want to know it that desperately.... You west aussies are very macho Then you don't have football teams either At least not like the mighty Bombers! annonnymouse (kicking with the best of them) |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
jonno wrote: a_nonny_mouse wrote: jonno wrote: a_nonny_mouse wrote: jonno wrote: NWF (Dont ask) Why not (ask, that is)? (quizzical look) annonnymous As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one. lol Shame on you A typical male response And a typical female. Youre dying to know! A male chauvinist yet? Better to be a male chauvenist than a female one! I was last time I looked.... Thought you were at least a metrosexual with a sense of humour! I wus only kidding. I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you.... With the sound of the vacuum cleaner ringing in my ears and the washing machine chattering away, death seems reasonable at the moment. Only the cuppa coffee keeping me sane / alive If you continue doing what youre doing youl'l continue to get what youre getting. I dont think you'd like that or want to know it that desperately.... You west aussies are very macho Ima in Melbourne, where football is football and we vote by colour in numbers, and end up wid the loosers we have in parliment. I haf to be macho. Otherwise I couldnt sneak a water hose out in the dead of night to water me garden, to cram on a train wid thousands of sardines and ration my electricity when we need it most with my air conditioners shut down, when told "shel'l be right" by those wimps in Spring Street. Where dams are damned bfore theyre bilt. And were nearly broke up to the hilt. Wait till next elections. Well be dealt another bunch of wimps weve never eard of, but are asked to vote for... When things go wrong they tell us were the cause, cut down on this or that. I'm moving out to the country at least theyl'l tell you when a power company is shutting down supplies. See I'm a melburnite. We all wanna move... Then you don't have football teams either At least not like the mighty Bombers! annonnymouse (kicking with the best of them) I wus only kidding. I used to back the bombers. But they ran out of sheedies. |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
jonno wrote: a_nonny_mouse wrote: jonno wrote: a_nonny_mouse wrote: jonno wrote: NWF (Dont ask) Why not (ask, that is)? (quizzical look) annonnymous As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one. lol Shame on you A typical male response And a typical female. Youre dying to know! A male chauvinist yet? Thought you were at least a metrosexual with a sense of humour! Now now pussycat the claws are out... Putting labels on me yet. Thats like calling me names. Er I just did too....sorry. I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you.... With the sound of the vacuum cleaner ringing in my ears and the washing machine chattering away, death seems reasonable at the moment. Only the cuppa coffee keeping me sane / alive If you continue to do, what you continue to do, you continue to get, what you continue to get. Vacuum cleaners suck. Polished floor boards for me. Have two cuppas and your eyes will open. If you dont like doing it, pay someone to do so, and have a friend into the bargain... I dont think you'd like that or want to know it that desperately.... You west Aussies are very macho Im an Essendon supporter, (living in Melb. Northern burbs) or was it a Sheedy supporter, then I realised it was all about the money, my money they wanted. They now have no support, as they are not even close to winning... Its time to cut their hierarchy, and a very close cut is needed. Call in Steve Vizard. He's used to a bit of fun and sabotage it seems. Then you don't have football teams either At least not like the mighty Bombers! I wont say you got it wrong, as I mite git killed. annonnymouse (kicking with the best of them) What position do you play? |
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On Mar 10, 10:15*am, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. *When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". * *(And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. *My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. *Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. *I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know *lot about them. *I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? *Or a good book on the subject? Rick Shine, University of Sydney, has written a very readable book on the subject. Shine, R. 1993. Australian Snakes. A Natural History. Revised Edition, 223 pages, Reed Books, Sydney. Reprinted, 1994. Published by New Holland Press, 1998. Reprinted 1999 and 2001. Tish |
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jonno wrote:
a_nonny_mouse wrote: hack As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one. lol Shame on you A typical male response And a typical female. Youre dying to know! A male chauvinist yet? Better to be a male chauvenist than a female one! I was last time I looked.... Thought you were at least a metrosexual with a sense of humour! I wus only kidding. About having a sense of humour? [hack] If you continue doing what youre doing youl'l continue to get what youre getting. That's the problem; I'm not! I dont think you'd like that or want to know it that desperately.... [shrug] Is it worth knowing such that one would be desperate? Ima in Melbourne hack Vitoriana See I'm a melburnite. We all wanna move... There there ... don't cry. We can't all live in the heavenly state/s Some people are in purgatory And then there are the Victorians ;P I wus only kidding. Kidding ... is that done by the nanny or billy goat? I used to back the bombers. They should have moved Sheedy a lot earlier. he was a good player and coach. Unfortunately he passed his "use by date". However he was not smart enough to recognise this and the club did not have those two litle things men love, to take the necessary steps. keep smilin' annonnymouse |
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jonno wrote:
a_nonny_mouse wrote: [hack] A male chauvinist yet? Thought you were at least a metrosexual with a sense of humour! Now now pussycat the claws are out... Putting labels on me yet. Thats like calling me names. Er I just did too....sorry. Apology accepted ;-) [hack] (kicking with the best of them) What position do you play? left right out ;-p keep smilin' annonnymouse |
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"a_nonny_mouse" wrote in
Tiger Snake related websites: " ================== OR (from the same enquiry): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake and surprise!! "Habitat Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks where they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such as frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution extends from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia, Tasmania, up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat includes the coastal areas of Australia." ================ AND on BREEDING (from Google): tiger snake breeding "Breeding Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth. Female litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter size is often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small islands produce fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215 - 270 mm in length. Females produce young at best every second year. There is no maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not become more aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake tracking a female may well have his mind on other things and may be more easily surprised or be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently be more nervous if disturbed." ============== Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs? No it doesn't. That information is even more limited that the information that I already know about the Notechis that live in my area. That is why I asked the questions that I did. |
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