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Rats! Sometime back I saw that there were mice in my compost bin. I don't
put food scraps there except vegetables - but it must be nice and warm inside during Winter time. One of them got into the house. I was watching the History channel yesterday when I heard something rattling away at the toaster. I paid no attention to it. When I went to make some toast - out popped a small little mouse. It ran into a small hole inside a cupboard wall. (Meaning its not in the cupboard but somewhere in its interior gaps.) I got one of the old fashion traps and one of the new modern plastic eco-friendly ones which doesn't kill the animal. I thought of borrowing my friend's cat for the weekend. Its quite good at catching mice apparently. But I don't know how effective that would be. Would it help?? I know its an odd question to ask. At the moment its just one. I hope. Occasionally I leave the doors open when I do my cooking - must have got in that way. |
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... Rats! Sometime back I saw that there were mice in my compost bin. I don't put food scraps there except vegetables - but it must be nice and warm inside during Winter time. One of them got into the house. I was watching the History channel yesterday when I heard something rattling away at the toaster. I paid no attention to it. When I went to make some toast - out popped a small little mouse. It ran into a small hole inside a cupboard wall. (Meaning its not in the cupboard but somewhere in its interior gaps.) I got one of the old fashion traps and one of the new modern plastic eco-friendly ones which doesn't kill the animal. how is not killing a european house mouse "ecofriendly"? i know they're cute but they don't belong here so there's no eco-problem in killing them! (quite the reverse). the "humane" traps are good for relocating them. e.g. if you caught an indigenous mouse, or you caught a european mouse & are hopelessly soft-hearted. :-) I thought of borrowing my friend's cat for the weekend. Its quite good at catching mice apparently. But I don't know how effective that would be. Would it help?? I know its an odd question to ask. i suspect that the cat would spend a few days freaking out, wondering why it's gone to live at your house instead. by which time you could have caught the mouse yourself. it would depend on the cat's personality though. i prefer old-fashioned snap traps. (baited with peanut butter). however, during our recent & in fact current mouse plague we have had more luck thusly: bait humane trap with peanut butter. catch mouse (2-3 a day for a while there). take trap out to yard & release mouse, mouse is instantly caught & killed by dog. i think they like the humane traps because they develop a smell of live mouse about them which makes the mouse more likely to go in - whereas snap traps (i suspect) keep the dead-mouse-smell that only another mouse would be sensitive to. just my suspicion though. and also, unless you do something along the lines of the above, releasing exotic mice back into freedom isn't a responsible idea. snap traps are good but sometimes you get a malfunctional one which isn't sensitive enough, & that's where they can be a big waste of time. (not that getting more is expensive nor much trouble). At the moment its just one. I hope. Occasionally I leave the doors open when I do my cooking - must have got in that way. mice can get in anywhere their heads (which are very little) can fit. you can't really mouse proof a house entirely in that way. and as soon as you've got one, you'll get plenty more. now we have the mice at our house down to nearly zero, the rats are moving in instead. sigh! ime, rats are MUCH more clever than mice. it is most exasperating. kylie |
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"YMC" wrote in message Rats! Sometime back I saw that there were mice in my compost bin. I don't put food scraps there except vegetables - but it must be nice and warm inside during Winter time. One of them got into the house. I was watching the History channel yesterday when I heard something rattling away at the toaster. I paid no attention to it. When I went to make some toast - out popped a small little mouse. It ran into a small hole inside a cupboard wall. (Meaning its not in the cupboard but somewhere in its interior gaps.) I got one of the old fashion traps and one of the new modern plastic eco-friendly ones which doesn't kill the animal. how is not killing a european house mouse "ecofriendly"? i know they're cute but they don't belong here so there's no eco-problem in killing them! (quite the reverse). I've got both mice and antechinus in my sun room at the moment. I seem to have no more in the house but I'm not trusting the little sods not to come back. The mice I let go in a new housing development in the area and the antechinus I release in the paddock. |
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"0tterbot" wrote in message "YMC" wrote in message Rats! Sometime back I saw that there were mice in my compost bin. I don't put food scraps there except vegetables - but it must be nice and warm inside during Winter time. One of them got into the house. I was watching the History channel yesterday when I heard something rattling away at the toaster. I paid no attention to it. When I went to make some toast - out popped a small little mouse. It ran into a small hole inside a cupboard wall. (Meaning its not in the cupboard but somewhere in its interior gaps.) I got one of the old fashion traps and one of the new modern plastic eco-friendly ones which doesn't kill the animal. how is not killing a european house mouse "ecofriendly"? i know they're cute but they don't belong here so there's no eco-problem in killing them! (quite the reverse). I've got both mice and antechinus in my sun room at the moment. I seem to have no more in the house but I'm not trusting the little sods not to come back. The mice I let go in a new housing development in the area and the antechinus I release in the paddock. They are probably been displaced by the housing development. This happened locally when they started building some new units in a place where there were previously paddocks. Same happnes with kangaroos etc.... |
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FarmI wrote: "0tterbot" wrote in message "YMC" wrote in message Rats! Sometime back I saw that there were mice in my compost bin. I don't put food scraps there except vegetables - but it must be nice and warm inside during Winter time. One of them got into the house. I was watching the History channel yesterday when I heard something rattling away at the toaster. I paid no attention to it. When I went to make some toast - out popped a small little mouse. It ran into a small hole inside a cupboard wall. (Meaning its not in the cupboard but somewhere in its interior gaps.) I got one of the old fashion traps and one of the new modern plastic eco-friendly ones which doesn't kill the animal. how is not killing a european house mouse "ecofriendly"? i know they're cute but they don't belong here so there's no eco-problem in killing them! (quite the reverse). I've got both mice and antechinus in my sun room at the moment. I seem to have no more in the house but I'm not trusting the little sods not to come back. The mice I let go in a new housing development in the area and the antechinus I release in the paddock. They are probably been displaced by the housing development. I doubt it. The housing development is about 10 kms away and I drop the mice off there after taking them for a drive. My act of releasing the mice in that locality is my way of commenting on what I think of this eyesore. |
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... how is not killing a european house mouse "ecofriendly"? i know they're cute but they don't belong here so there's no eco-problem in killing them! (quite the reverse). the "humane" traps are good for relocating them. e.g. if you caught an indigenous mouse, or you caught a european mouse & are hopelessly soft-hearted. :-) Haha, no not soft hearted. I was going to write humane trap - but being "humane" to a non-human rodent seems an odd thing to say. So I used the word - ecofriendly. I'm not a mouse expert and don't know whether the mouse is native or not. Its small. Grey. and has a very long tail. And its also freaking the other person who lives in this house out. |
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g'day ymc,
yep need to control them if they establish in the home they can find their way into the wall cavities where rats in particular but mice as well are very fond of chewing the wiring, the cause of many a house fire, more dangerous if threat occurs in the roof. if you have a home with good screens and security type doors they can have a difficult time getting in but we have had mice in the house, discover them quickly and deal with them long before they get comfortable. in rural the home ahd no screens (not needed) we had a rat come in went straight to where the computer was and chewed all the telephone cables so we had no phone. they find a good home in copost and enough to eat, we do our composting in our gardens so they wil live inb there as well we put all our rottable kitchen scraps tucked under the mulch so the food is there as well. but we run bait stations using tomcat rat baits cut a couple of openings into icecream containers large enough for them to get in this protects the baits from the weather, use a small piece of 3x2 or such as s weight to hold the station in place against the wind. in the house we slipped bats in under the sink wher the pipes come through (only bit you can't observe the bait for interfference. it could take up to 2 weeks for a rat to die from ingesting the bait over numerous feed, they usually die outside heading back to their water supply. all the rats seem to have dissapeared from around here and the mice are well in check, after all we didn't create them locally they where always here on council reserves/drains or other gardens unchecked. with a rat that i needed to get rid of right away or as rightaway as we could we borrowed one of those spring traps put some cheese on it unset for a couple of nights to give the rat a false sense of security and free feed, we then set the trap on that last night tied the cheese on with cotton and yup he fell for it, had a very surprised look on his face. why tie the bait they are very adept at removing the bait without springing the trap. run the baits out in the garden etc.,. stop them before they come inside. excuse my typo's lease On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:50:16 +1000, "YMC" wrote: snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len & bev -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
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... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... how is not killing a european house mouse "ecofriendly"? i know they're cute but they don't belong here so there's no eco-problem in killing them! (quite the reverse). the "humane" traps are good for relocating them. e.g. if you caught an indigenous mouse, or you caught a european mouse & are hopelessly soft-hearted. :-) Haha, no not soft hearted. I was going to write humane trap - but being "humane" to a non-human rodent seems an odd thing to say. So I used the word - ecofriendly. sorry to be a word-nerd, but i just am :-) humane means for a human to behave in a kind and responsible way towards another creature, whether human or not. those traps are thusly labelled because one is able to relocate the animal without hurting it. you can definitely be humane to a creature which isn't human, just as long as you're human yourself :-) eco-friendly is rapidly becoming meaningless, but is meant to imply an activity which is either benign to, or actively helps, our environment in its natural form. I'm not a mouse expert and don't know whether the mouse is native or not. Its small. Grey. and has a very long tail. it's most likely a european house mouse. they have rounded ears, are grey, and have cute buttony eyes & are generally extremely appealing in appearance. they tend to be extremely small. indigenous mice come in a few species i'm quite sure... however ime tend to have more oval ears & a more stand-uppish appearance & tend to be brown & quite likely a tiny bit larger. they have more of the look of a miniature bilby to them, which an exotic mouse doesn't have. i'd be inclined to just relocate these, if they're what you've got. european mice should just be killed, ideally, imo. indigenous mice are much less likely to ever move into your house in the first place ime so it's probably not one of those anyway. And its also freaking the other person who lives in this house out. i can't fathom anyone getting freaked out by a few mice, but that's not the issue here :-) kylie |
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"YMC" wrote in message
I'm not a mouse expert and don't know whether the mouse is native or not. Its small. Grey. and has a very long tail. Do a google on antechinus. The 'very long tail' sounds like an antechinus to me and they are native. |
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i can't fathom anyone getting freaked out by a few mice, but that's not the issue here :-) I agree. We weren't even freaked out when we were told to evacuate at midnight because they couldn't find the bloke who tried to murder my husband. That's personal and could be freaky if someone is that way inclined. Mice are just being mice and doing micey things. |
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... i can't fathom anyone getting freaked out by a few mice, but that's not the issue here :-) kylie The same person who freaks out about even the mentioning of their description - can readily kill with her bare hands - big hairy huntsmen spiders. |
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Good idea Lens mate.
Will do!! I already had traps set up near my compost bin. Nothing close to the house to avoid the obvious. This one must have slipped through somehow. YMC "len gardener" wrote in message ... g'day ymc, yep need to control them if they establish in the home they can find.... |
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:07:32 +1000, YMC wrote:
The same person who freaks out about even the mentioning of their description - can readily kill with her bare hands - big hairy huntsmen spiders. Arsehole,{:-). Somehow, our house one was squashed and now we are infested with flies inside the house. |
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YMC wrote:
Rats! Sometime back I saw that there were mice in my compost bin. I don't put food scraps there except vegetables - but it must be nice and warm inside during Winter time. One of them got into the house. I was watching the History channel yesterday when I heard something rattling away at the toaster. I paid no attention to it. When I went to make some toast - out popped a small little mouse. It ran into a small hole inside a cupboard wall. (Meaning its not in the cupboard but somewhere in its interior gaps.) I got one of the old fashion traps and one of the new modern plastic eco-friendly ones which doesn't kill the animal. I thought of borrowing my friend's cat for the weekend. Its quite good at catching mice apparently. But I don't know how effective that would be. Would it help?? I know its an odd question to ask. At the moment its just one. I hope. Occasionally I leave the doors open when I do my cooking - must have got in that way. Bromakill sell a feed block , drop one of those through the holes and wave goodbye to your mouse .(smell is minimal) |
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I borrowed my friend's cat for the weekend.
And I set up a trap using the "humane mouse trap" http://www.humanemousetrap.com.au/ I bought it at Bunnings for about $2.60. Smeared the end with peanut butter. But seemed to have no success for a day or so. My friend brought his cat over. After dinner it was attracted to the trap. It wasn't activated. Then the cat stuck its hand inside as if it was trying to get at something. I thought it was playing around - I picked the trap up but the trap seemed a tad heavy. I shook it - but didn't hear anything rattling inside. I called the cat over - by this time it seemed to have lost all interest. Popped open the lid - and out popped a mouse. Very small like a small computer mouse - and the cat jumped on it straight away. Played with it for awhile - then ate it. It must have loved the taste of that mouse because after that - it didn't want to have anymore milk or commercial cat food. But instead went to hunting mode. I guess there may be more than one mouse in the house hahaha. |
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:00:58 +1000, YMC wrote:
I guess there may be more than one mouse in the house hahaha. Mouse smell. If you have a mouser cat and it suddenly starts sniffing around, especially along a route, then you know you have had a visit. |
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And I set up a trap using the "humane mouse trap" http://www.humanemousetrap.com.au/ I bought it at Bunnings for about $2.60. That was great buying. I've got 3 of those traps and they've all cost me over $8. But I swear by them since one night we caught 6 mice using just one trap. |
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"terryc" wrote in message ... On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:00:58 +1000, YMC wrote: I guess there may be more than one mouse in the house hahaha. Mouse smell. If you have a mouser cat and it suddenly starts sniffing around, especially along a route, then you know you have had a visit. At night, the cat seems to go into hunt mode as if its waiting for another mouse to show up. I've been keeping it indoors for a day+ now. I... ah crap, I opened the front door and it ran straight out. Damn I can't see the cat now. My friend is so going to be so ****ed at me. |
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Yeah, I was surprised it was so cheap. Its Bunnings at Nunawading.
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"YMC" writes:
I already had traps set up near my compost bin. Nothing close to the house to avoid the obvious. Is it possible that your stealthy visitor might be a native marsupial (an antechinus) and not a pest rodent? I have a small worm farm and noticed it was being visited by, I guessed, a town rat. Around midday I chanced upon it, and it froze in the grass right in front of me, so I got a good look at it, and it looked exactly like a rat to me. But I noticed it had a baby clinging to its back, so I asked here, and respondents declared it could then not be an introduced rat. So I ceased setting a trap near the farm, and accept that I'm losing worms to this visitor whatever it is. Question to all: is the antechinus totally carnivorous, to the extent that I could safely put out a grain-based rat poison to nab any pest rodents with no likelihood of harming the native species? -- John Savage (my news address is not valid for email) |
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g'day john,
Question to all: is the antechinus totally carnivorous, to the extent that I could safely put out a grain-based rat poison to nab any pest rodents with no likelihood of harming the native species? good question hope we can get an answer, i had never given it much thought as i felt the native rodents had a different food chain to the ferrel ones, as it is only the ferrel models that want to live in our homes with us. and in all the baiting we have done for the ferrel's we have never seen anything but dead ferrel's. On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:35:22 +0000 (UTC), John Savage wrote: snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len & bev -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
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I get house mice and native 'mice'. When I read up on them it turns out
the native sorts actually hunt the house mice! All very handy, but I can't have them living in the walls either. I catch them all in 'humane' traps and let them go in waste land or bush land if they are obviously not mice. I really hate killing critters. The rats were a different matter. I got a traditional spring trap and killed them. They were definately rats and bold enough to run through a room with people in it. I figured they carry too many diseases to just be let loose somewhere. Probably the mice do too, but they are less likely to survive where there is snakes and owls and other birds off prey. Sometimes I borrow my daughters cat - she might catch a mouse, but often the mice just move out when the cat smell becomes too much for them. It didn't work during the worst of the drought. jules YMC wrote: Rats! Sometime back I saw that there were mice in my compost bin. I don't put food scraps there except vegetables - but it must be nice and warm inside during Winter time. One of them got into the house. I was watching the History channel yesterday when I heard something rattling away at the toaster. I paid no attention to it. When I went to make some toast - out popped a small little mouse. It ran into a small hole inside a cupboard wall. (Meaning its not in the cupboard but somewhere in its interior gaps.) I got one of the old fashion traps and one of the new modern plastic eco-friendly ones which doesn't kill the animal. I thought of borrowing my friend's cat for the weekend. Its quite good at catching mice apparently. But I don't know how effective that would be. Would it help?? I know its an odd question to ask. At the moment its just one. I hope. Occasionally I leave the doors open when I do my cooking - must have got in that way. |
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jules wrote:
snip Probably the mice do too, but they are less likely to survive where there is snakes and owls and other birds off prey. snip jules Y'know, I often wonder about that. I reckon lots and lots of native carnivores would kark it if it weren't for the introduced rabbits and mice. I know our local black snake has been growing fat on the mouse plagues we get occasionally. I wonder what would keep him going if the mice weren't there? That's why I have no problem letting the mice go from my humane traps. The likelihood of their survival away from their colony of origin is slim to put it mildly and I figure most of them will end up in a kookaburras dinner menu or a snake's or a kestrel's. Not saying we need to welcome the bloody-introduced-species, just pondering the fates of the mice that we catch... -- Trish Brown {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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... jules wrote: snip Probably the mice do too, but they are less likely to survive where there is snakes and owls and other birds off prey. snip jules Y'know, I often wonder about that. I reckon lots and lots of native carnivores would kark it if it weren't for the introduced rabbits and mice. I know our local black snake has been growing fat on the mouse plagues we get occasionally. I wonder what would keep him going if the mice weren't there? there is always a predator/predatee(? is that a word?) balance that forms after a while. without so many mice, the snake may well live elsewhere - or possibly not exist at all as his mother may have lived elsewhere/not had enough to eat in order to reproduce. more likely, without exotic mice, he'd be eating something else which presently do not live there, because the mice live there instead & have crowded them out. i don't think we can _know_ what (for e.g.) your backyard or mine would be like had mice, cats, english sparrows, & every other thing _not_ been introduced by other people in the past. there's no way to tell what would have happened once something else entirely has incontrovertably happened instead. however, quite clearly, australia would have black snakes aplenty in the absence of european mice. they'd be eating something else & their habitat patterns might just be different accordingly, or exactly the same but with a different food source - or, in the absence of so many humans transporting mice about, there may have been so many snakes in your area that they reach plague-like proportions themselves, & subsequently receive a population correction from mother nature because there is not enough to eat... (or any one of a number of other hypothetical possibilities). nature keeps animals (and plants), & the animals or diseases that kill them, in a balance. (it might not be a balance we approve of, but our opinions actually don't count :-) european mice, without enough predators (say, cats, dogs & humans - themselves all introduced species as well), will crowd out similar indigenous species (which your snake would eat, except that they're not _there_ because of mice.) there'd have just been a different balance & different animals occupying different places, but we can't know what it might have been like. That's why I have no problem letting the mice go from my humane traps. The likelihood of their survival away from their colony of origin is slim to put it mildly er, no..! how have mice come to prosper? by moving away from their origins (whether by accident or on purpose) & expanding their habitat. by my observation, there are two groups of animals in the world - those which prosper by being smart & adaptable (e.g. humans or dogs) & those which aren't very bright but prosper by sheer reproductive capacity (mice, rabbits, kangaroos). with the latter, they may thwart themselves at every turn & be killed in droves by predators, yet survive in massive quantities because they have so many babies, a few of whom survive to reproduce. the animals which plague us tend to be of the latter variety. they are just adaptable enough to make sure a few of them always survive a new situation. they are always able to find other individuals to mate with, because those individuals are already nearby, having previously been relocated, or relocated themselves, for whatever reason. then again, i suppose there is a third group of animals which are neither wickedly intelligent, nor are they highly reproductive. they would be the animals which either become endangered if someone or something moves in on them, or become domesticated if they are useful to us & placid enough. and I figure most of them will end up in a kookaburras dinner menu or a snake's or a kestrel's. i think a lot of them probably do, but there will always be enough survivors, of that you can be sure. if you release a thousand mice in a lifetime, & only 50 of them subsequently survive to have offspring, there are still a LOT more mice in the world than there would have been had you killed all 1000 instead of letting 50 survive. Not saying we need to welcome the bloody-introduced-species, just pondering the fates of the mice that we catch... you're probably right in that most of them are caught pretty quickly. it's the ones who aren't caught who go on to colonise new areas. which clearly happens, otherwise australia would not be covered in a thick coating of mice, rats, cats, goats, foxes, & every imaginable kind of feral pest!! :-) kylie |
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:50:16 +1000, "YMC"
wrote in aus.gardens: I got one of the old fashion traps and one of the new modern plastic eco-friendly ones which doesn't kill the animal. I thought of borrowing my friend's cat for the weekend. Its quite good at catching mice apparently. But I don't know how effective that would be. Would it help?? I know its an odd question to ask. Never mind about cats or old fashioned traps whether eco friendly or not get one of these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/psycho12/3517640973/ from Woollies or Coles They are the best traps I have ever used for mice, so sensitive gets the little ******* every time. Peanut butter is the best bait - mice cannot resist it. You don't even have to touch the dead mouse, to release it just take the trap to your bin open the jaws by squeezing the back part and the mouse is in the bin, put the trap back (the peanut butter will still be there) and it is ready to catch the next little blighter. They are absolutely brilliant traps, promise. Regards Oscar Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius |
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:00:58 +1000, "YMC"
wrote in aus.gardens: I borrowed my friend's cat for the weekend. And I set up a trap using the "humane mouse trap" http://www.humanemousetrap.com.au/ I bought it at Bunnings for about $2.60. Still think these are better and you can use the mouse in your compost :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/psycho12/3517640973/ And you get two in a packet for about the same cost. Regards Oscar Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius |
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Oscar Trint wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:00:58 +1000, "YMC" wrote in aus.gardens: I borrowed my friend's cat for the weekend. And I set up a trap using the "humane mouse trap" http://www.humanemousetrap.com.au/ I bought it at Bunnings for about $2.60. Still think these are better and you can use the mouse in your compost :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/psycho12/3517640973/ And you get two in a packet for about the same cost. We've got them. Have caught two mice in them. On both occasions the mouse was caught by one front foot only and struggled to escape with a severly broken leg. I'm no animal rights activist but felt sorry for the mice. Had to dispatch the mouse which some people would not like to do. Would be better if the trap killed the mouse outright. On the other hand, the bugger of a rat (or rats?) that we have in the garden that eats our fruit and avoids all the baits, poisons and traps, I would happily sentence to that fate. |
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On 10 May 2009 15:20:49 GMT, Tom N wrote in aus.gardens:
:) http://www.flickr.com/photos/psycho12/3517640973/ And you get two in a packet for about the same cost. We've got them. Have caught two mice in them. On both occasions the mouse was caught by one front foot only and struggled to escape with a severly broken leg. I'm no animal rights activist but felt sorry for the mice. That's bad luck but that has never happened to me - have used them for years and get periodic plagues, the traps have always killed em, except once when a very young tiny mouse (presumably its elders having been caught previously) was actually caught inside the trap unharmed. Chucked the trap and mouse in a bucket of water to solve that problem. Regards Oscar Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius |
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Oscar Trint wrote:
On 10 May 2009 15:20:49 GMT, Tom N wrote in aus.gardens: :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/psycho12/3517640973/ And you get two in a packet for about the same cost. We've got them. Have caught two mice in them. On both occasions the mouse was caught by one front foot only and struggled to escape with a severly broken leg. I'm no animal rights activist but felt sorry for the mice. That's bad luck but that has never happened to me - have used them for years and get periodic plagues, the traps have always killed em, except once when a very young tiny mouse (presumably its elders having been caught previously) was actually caught inside the trap unharmed. Chucked the trap and mouse in a bucket of water to solve that problem. Regards Oscar Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius I caught two little grey mices in a humane tilt trap last night returned to the neighbours as a compliment for their white ants arriving here after they sprayed last month |
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