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Can't we all just say 'infinity' and let it go?
Continually feeding these pointless conversations is drowning the ng in fresh, steaming, *unrotted* manure. Y'know, you don't *have* to respond when someone posts something that disagrees with you. Just let it go and we'll all feel better. My garden is drooping at the moment. Well, we're watering, but the lawn is overgrown and the beds need a bit of weeding and extra mulch. It's been so hot and humid, no one feels like getting out and doing the usual maintenance. We keep telling each other 'Tomorrow, when it's cooler...', but it never seems to be cool enough! The beans and peas have got mildew because I (mistakenly) planted too many plants too close together. The watermelon has covered everything and we have a glut of melons which is getting more and more worrying. The family and neighbours are heartily sick of me asking 'Would you like another melon?' Not only that, but the butternut pumpkin has met up with and conjoined itself to the melon vine. There are umpteen little yellow pear-shaped pumpkins growing among the many melons and I'm visualising pots and pots of pumpkin soup and a plethora of pumpkin pies - oh dear! LOL! And to think I nearly planted several watermelon and pumpkin seedlings! One of each is quite enough, thank you. Inside, I've put a Venus Fly Trap and a Pitcher Plant on my kitchen windowsill (only for decoration, you understand). In the first week, the Pitcher Plant entrapped a European Wasp that managed to make its way inside, so I'm chuffed about that. Venus Fly Trap is a bit languid at the moment, but I feel she'll come good when her traps have enlarged a bit. It never occurred to me that my carnivorous plants might actually carnivorate, but they did! Lucky me! ;- For the first time in memory, all our African Violets have carked it! My DS is in charge of those, as he has quite a way with Afro Violets. Nevertheless, the Great Heat this year has dried them out phenomenally and despite DS' best efforts, they've all turned up their sepals and gone to meet the Great Gardener. Shame, that. One extremely nice thing about our garden is that, since we removed all the feelthy steenking palm trees, we no longer get liberally sprinkled with ripe, steaming bat-shit. This is a blessing and I do smile to myself as I listen to the bubble of bats in the tree four doors down. They're lovely to watch from a distance, but you really don't want bats flying over your clothesline. Or, indeed, your white dog! Finally, a Blue-Tongue has had babies somewhere in our yard and there's all these little baby Blueys pottering about. I think I mentioned a while back that one turned up underneath my bed! This means I have to be vigilant about the foul and disgusting Indian Mynas, who seem to enjoy crown-roast of baby Bluey very much. If anyone's got any clever ideas about scaring them away (the mynas, not the blueys) - aside from rushing outdoors, waving a fly swatter or wooden spoon and screeching like a madwoman... !!! .... I'd love to hear of it. And that's my little garden at the moment. How about everyone else? -- Trish Brown {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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Trish Brown wrote:
Can't we all just say 'infinity' and let it go? Continually feeding these pointless conversations is drowning the ng in fresh, steaming, *unrotted* manure. Y'know, you don't *have* to respond when someone posts something that disagrees with you. Just let it go and we'll all feel better. Hear hear How about everyone else? My tomatoes are finally ripening - but this year, for the first time, the possums are having a go at them so I am having to pick them half-ripe and let them ripen indoors. There are lots of apples the possums could have with my blessing but they seem to have changed their eating habits :( At least I've finally got them out of the roof and all the entrances blocked off - but did they like the brand new house I put up in a tree for them (as required by the Dept.of Environment who rented me the possum trap; one can no longer remove them from the property even if said property is only a one & a half acre block)? - of course not, they have now burrowed into the woodpile. -- Anne Chambers SE South Australia anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com |
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"Trish Brown" wrote in message ... Can't we all just say 'infinity' and let it go? Continually feeding these pointless conversations is drowning the ng in fresh, steaming, *unrotted* manure. Y'know, you don't *have* to respond when someone posts something that disagrees with you. Just let it go and we'll all feel better. My garden is drooping at the moment. Well, we're watering, but the lawn is overgrown and the beds need a bit of weeding and extra mulch. It's been so hot and humid, no one feels like getting out and doing the usual maintenance. We keep telling each other 'Tomorrow, when it's cooler...', but it never seems to be cool enough! The beans and peas have got mildew because I (mistakenly) planted too many plants too close together. The watermelon has covered everything and we have a glut of melons which is getting more and more worrying. The family and neighbours are heartily sick of me asking 'Would you like another melon?' Not only that, but the butternut pumpkin has met up with and conjoined itself to the melon vine. There are umpteen little yellow pear-shaped pumpkins growing among the many melons and I'm visualising pots and pots of pumpkin soup and a plethora of pumpkin pies - oh dear! LOL! And to think I nearly planted several watermelon and pumpkin seedlings! One of each is quite enough, thank you. Inside, I've put a Venus Fly Trap and a Pitcher Plant on my kitchen windowsill (only for decoration, you understand). In the first week, the Pitcher Plant entrapped a European Wasp that managed to make its way inside, so I'm chuffed about that. Venus Fly Trap is a bit languid at the moment, but I feel she'll come good when her traps have enlarged a bit. It never occurred to me that my carnivorous plants might actually carnivorate, but they did! Lucky me! ;- For the first time in memory, all our African Violets have carked it! My DS is in charge of those, as he has quite a way with Afro Violets. Nevertheless, the Great Heat this year has dried them out phenomenally and despite DS' best efforts, they've all turned up their sepals and gone to meet the Great Gardener. Shame, that. One extremely nice thing about our garden is that, since we removed all the feelthy steenking palm trees, we no longer get liberally sprinkled with ripe, steaming bat-shit. This is a blessing and I do smile to myself as I listen to the bubble of bats in the tree four doors down. They're lovely to watch from a distance, but you really don't want bats flying over your clothesline. Or, indeed, your white dog! Finally, a Blue-Tongue has had babies somewhere in our yard and there's all these little baby Blueys pottering about. I think I mentioned a while back that one turned up underneath my bed! This means I have to be vigilant about the foul and disgusting Indian Mynas, who seem to enjoy crown-roast of baby Bluey very much. If anyone's got any clever ideas about scaring them away (the mynas, not the blueys) - aside from rushing outdoors, waving a fly swatter or wooden spoon and screeching like a madwoman... !!! ... I'd love to hear of it. And that's my little garden at the moment. How about everyone else? -- Trish Brown {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia The other day I left the tank water tap on when giving the dogs a drink. The rain atm is helping to make up for my booboo. The pumpkins are going beserk. |
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On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:55:36 +1100, Trish Brown wrote: [...] If anyone's got any clever ideas about scaring them away (the mynas, not the blueys) - aside from rushing outdoors, waving a fly swatter or wooden spoon and screeching like a madwoman... Well, that worked quite well when SWMBO did it. They were beating up on a magpie, and when she dived outdoors with a broom in hand and whacked a couple over the head, the noisy miners joined in and drove them away. Since then, and since we've been giving the last scraps of rice to the noisy miners, they and the magpies are proving quite efficient at keeping the Indian mynas away. [...] How about everyone else? Chili explosion here at Blackalls Park. We have two cayenne chili bushes that won't stop producing, and we've given away a large number, and minced and fermented a quart jar's worth of chili and garlic paste, and we eat about 6-10 fresh chilis each week, and they keep on coming. Now the jalapeño bush is producing well too (hmmm... ranch beans!) and our tabasco chili bush has ~50 little fiery buggers on it and they've started ripening. Ginger, turmeric, and galangal have erupted during the wet rainy summer. Well, the galangal popped up in spring, but has stuck up another spike or two each over summer. One of my taro corms is raging away with plenty of leaves, while the other is still presenting short green spikes that don't go anywhere. Still stuffing about with other bits, not much other than chilis and herbs making their way into the kitchen lately. The mozzies are back in abundance. #$%^. ZzzzzzZZZZ!...zzzzZZZ! :/ -- Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia "Tuesday is Soylent Green day" |
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Anne Chambers wrote:
Trish Brown wrote: Can't we all just say 'infinity' and let it go? Continually feeding these pointless conversations is drowning the ng in fresh, steaming, *unrotted* manure. Y'know, you don't *have* to respond when someone posts something that disagrees with you. Just let it go and we'll all feel better. Hear hear How about everyone else? My tomatoes are finally ripening - but this year, for the first time, the possums are having a go at them so I am having to pick them half-ripe and let them ripen indoors. There are lots of apples the possums could have with my blessing but they seem to have changed their eating habits :( At least I've finally got them out of the roof and all the entrances blocked off - but did they like the brand new house I put up in a tree for them (as required by the Dept.of Environment who rented me the possum trap; one can no longer remove them from the property even if said property is only a one & a half acre block)? - of course not, they have now burrowed into the woodpile. For some reason I cannot see posts from Trish (no you are not sinbinned) so I will have to tag on here. The season has been kind to us with good rain and despite continued high humidity not much in the way of fungus and mould. The pasture is looking great, we could run twice as many horses at the moment as they are all fat and cannot keep up with it. All except one old dear who is wasting away from a mystery illness. She has been on supplementary feeding for three months and eats grass with the rest all day. She ought to be spherical with what she is eating but instead just skin and bones. I am checking out sites for a big hole. She has taken a liking to mulberry leaves so I replaced the net to keep her out. Running late to go out the other day I glanced at the orchard to find her inside the net. It was like one of those weird performance artists who wrap up common objects or paint large animals in living rooms. Just standing there patiently, no fuss, waiting for me to get her out. I have no idea how she got in there. The mulberrys will recover. Mootilda the cow is settling in well. She and the horses have reached a negotiated settlement. I can now get up to her and touch her without any problem, I know it is just cupboard love because as soon as it is clear that I have no food for her she wanders off but it is s good sign that she is not totally afaid of getting near people. I now have to build some yards and bails so that she can have a visit from the lady with the syringe. The vege garden is looking like a picture book. Herbs and cutting greens have self-seeded all over the place and the cucurbits are plotting world domination. The asparagus is way over my head and next spring looks like being a good cut. The stone fruit did very well and the pear trees are loaded to breaking point , now if I can just remember when to pull them .... I have found a new cultivar of beans which is very impressive in my environment. Not from any of the recognised sources nor from a crazy old aunt. So many of those, including Diggers so-called lazy houswife (stringless my foot) have drawbacks. This one is a bush bean that is robust and produces loads of genuinely stringless pods. Found everywhere and disparaged by some - Mrs Fothergills. Also I grew yellow pear tomatoes for the first time. They are very good; a small sweet salad tom that looks like a yellow pear about 4cm long. We took kilos of tomatoes and cucmbers to the new Gloucester farmers market last Saturday, I am still waiting to see how much sold but it was looking good. If anybody is interested as either buyer or seller I will post details. There have been a few disappointments. The second round of corn didn't get fertilised correcly and the ears are very underweight. I cannot get in front of the snails. I slay them in their hundreds, clean up all their hiding places etc etc but still they come. But sun is shining and all is right with world. David |
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David Hare-Scott wrote:
For some reason I cannot see posts from Trish (no you are not sinbinned) so I will have to tag on here. Ooo, I hope not! I do try to be good, y'know. The season has been kind to us with good rain and despite continued high humidity not much in the way of fungus and mould. The pasture is looking great, we could run twice as many horses at the moment as they are all fat and cannot keep up with it. All except one old dear who is wasting away from a mystery illness. She has been on supplementary feeding for three months and eats grass with the rest all day. She ought to be spherical with what she is eating but instead just skin and bones. I am checking out sites for a big hole. She has taken a liking to mulberry leaves so I replaced the net to keep her out. Running late to go out the other day I glanced at the orchard to find her inside the net. It was like one of those weird performance artists who wrap up common objects or paint large animals in living rooms. Just standing there patiently, no fuss, waiting for me to get her out. I have no idea how she got in there. The mulberrys will recover. I'm assuming you've wormed everyone in your paddock? If this mare's carrying a heavy worm-load, it would explain her doing so poorly on good feed. A vet would find out for sure (although you'll pay for it... try offering him some tomatoes instead!) Three quarters fill a bucket with rolled oats (NOT seed oats, mind, but rolled ones: you can get 'em from most feed merchants). Top up with boiling water, stir and let it stand until it's mostly cooled. You can add a number of taste-tempters, from a handful of salt to a dipper of bran (only if the horse is used to it, though) to a splodge of treacle or molasses. Most horses will knock you down for treacle/molasses, so I'd recommend it for this poor old mare. The reasoning behind the rolled oats is that the husks can irritate an inflamed gut, as can bran or pollard. Nice, mushy rolled oats seems to work quite well. It's good for skinny dogs too. Mootilda the cow is settling in well. She and the horses have reached a negotiated settlement. I can now get up to her and touch her without any problem, I know it is just cupboard love because as soon as it is clear that I have no food for her she wanders off but it is s good sign that she is not totally afaid of getting near people. I now have to build some yards and bails so that she can have a visit from the lady with the syringe. Killjoy! Poor Mootilda! The vege garden is looking like a picture book. Herbs and cutting greens have self-seeded all over the place and the cucurbits are plotting world domination. The asparagus is way over my head and next spring looks like being a good cut. The stone fruit did very well and the pear trees are loaded to breaking point , now if I can just remember when to pull them .... I have found a new cultivar of beans which is very impressive in my environment. Not from any of the recognised sources nor from a crazy old aunt. So many of those, including Diggers so-called lazy houswife (stringless my foot) have drawbacks. This one is a bush bean that is robust and produces loads of genuinely stringless pods. Found everywhere and disparaged by some - Mrs Fothergills. Also I grew yellow pear tomatoes for the first time. They are very good; a small sweet salad tom that looks like a yellow pear about 4cm long. We took kilos of tomatoes and cucmbers to the new Gloucester farmers market last Saturday, I am still waiting to see how much sold but it was looking good. If anybody is interested as either buyer or seller I will post details. Ever made tomato jam? It's *delicious*! There have been a few disappointments. The second round of corn didn't get fertilised correcly and the ears are very underweight. I cannot get in front of the snails. I slay them in their hundreds, clean up all their hiding places etc etc but still they come. But sun is shining and all is right with world. David Yeah, my corn was a disappointment too: little shrivelly ears with gaps in the cobs. My Great Hope for the future is a wall-full of sweet peas. Wish me luck!!! -- Trish Brown {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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Anne Chambers wrote:
My tomatoes are finally ripening - but this year, for the first time, the possums are having a go at them so I am having to pick them half-ripe and let them ripen indoors. There are lots of apples the possums could have with my blessing but they seem to have changed their eating habits :( At least I've finally got them out of the roof and all the entrances blocked off - but did they like the brand new house I put up in a tree for them (as required by the Dept.of Environment who rented me the possum trap; one can no longer remove them from the property even if said property is only a one & a half acre block)? - of course not, they have now burrowed into the woodpile. I saw a ringtail possum scooting along the power lines just recently. I had no idea they could do that, but this little bloke was as surefooted as if he were waddling along his home-tree. They're noisy and smelly and annoying if they get too tame... but *so* cute to look at! ;- -- Trish Brown {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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SG1 wrote:
The other day I left the tank water tap on when giving the dogs a drink. Bugger! The rain atm is helping to make up for my booboo. The pumpkins are going beserk. I reckon you could probably see them growing if you were willing to stand there for an hour or so and watch. DH is about to go out and build a trellisy arrangment to keep the vines out of the rose garden. Talk about peripatetic! (The vines, not the husband...) -- Trish Brown {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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Ross McKay wrote:
/lurk On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:55:36 +1100, Trish Brown wrote: [...] If anyone's got any clever ideas about scaring them away (the mynas, not the blueys) - aside from rushing outdoors, waving a fly swatter or wooden spoon and screeching like a madwoman... Well, that worked quite well when SWMBO did it. They were beating up on a magpie, and when she dived outdoors with a broom in hand and whacked a couple over the head, the noisy miners joined in and drove them away. Since then, and since we've been giving the last scraps of rice to the noisy miners, they and the magpies are proving quite efficient at keeping the Indian mynas away. Will try the broomystick method and report back. I hate Indian Mynas!!! [...] How about everyone else? Chili explosion here at Blackalls Park. Oooahhh! I'm at Wallsend! G'day, neighbour. ;-D We have two cayenne chili bushes that won't stop producing, and we've given away a large number, and minced and fermented a quart jar's worth of chili and garlic paste, and we eat about 6-10 fresh chilis each week, and they keep on coming. Now the jalapeño bush is producing well too (hmmm... ranch beans!) and our tabasco chili bush has ~50 little fiery buggers on it and they've started ripening. My chilis and capsicums have done pretty well, only the #($^#@%@ European Wasps have continually gotten at them all season. I've put up traps for the rotten creatures, and had some success at first. Now, I can't find anything they'll go into the traps for (not even chilis or capsicums). Ginger, turmeric, and galangal have erupted during the wet rainy summer. Well, the galangal popped up in spring, but has stuck up another spike or two each over summer. One of my taro corms is raging away with plenty of leaves, while the other is still presenting short green spikes that don't go anywhere. Still stuffing about with other bits, not much other than chilis and herbs making their way into the kitchen lately. The mozzies are back in abundance. #$%^. ZzzzzzZZZZ!...zzzzZZZ! :/ You're not wrong the we've got tiny little black ones that always seem to bite where you can't reach 'em. I don't s'pose you'd get Hexham Greys out where you are? We live about a block away from the edge of Hexham Swamp and so we get a few from there. They seem to have made a comeback in recent years and I can't say I think that's a good thing. -- Trish Brown {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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Trish Brown wrote:
SG1 wrote: The other day I left the tank water tap on when giving the dogs a drink. Bugger! The rain atm is helping to make up for my booboo. The pumpkins are going beserk. I reckon you could probably see them growing if you were willing to stand there for an hour or so and watch. DH is about to go out and build a trellisy arrangment to keep the vines out of the rose garden. Talk about peripatetic! (The vines, not the husband...) DH? Dear Hubby? You have to watch those initialisms. I once was at a meeting which included social policy types who were talking about DSEs when another bloke whispered to me "why are they talking about sheep?" I had to explain that they meant Designated Spouse Equivalents not Drenched Sheep Equivalents. Then there was the time I got into terrible trouble talking about Predetermined Motion Time Standards (I am not making this up it actaully happened). David |
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"Trish Brown" wrote in message ... Ross McKay wrote: /lurk On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:55:36 +1100, Trish Brown wrote: [...] If anyone's got any clever ideas about scaring them away (the mynas, not the blueys) - aside from rushing outdoors, waving a fly swatter or wooden spoon and screeching like a madwoman... Well, that worked quite well when SWMBO did it. They were beating up on a magpie, and when she dived outdoors with a broom in hand and whacked a couple over the head, the noisy miners joined in and drove them away. Since then, and since we've been giving the last scraps of rice to the noisy miners, they and the magpies are proving quite efficient at keeping the Indian mynas away. Will try the broomystick method and report back. I hate Indian Mynas!!! [...] How about everyone else? Chili explosion here at Blackalls Park. Oooahhh! I'm at Wallsend! G'day, neighbour. ;-D We have two cayenne chili bushes that won't stop producing, and we've given away a large number, and minced and fermented a quart jar's worth of chili and garlic paste, and we eat about 6-10 fresh chilis each week, and they keep on coming. Now the jalapeño bush is producing well too (hmmm... ranch beans!) and our tabasco chili bush has ~50 little fiery buggers on it and they've started ripening. My chilis and capsicums have done pretty well, only the #($^#@%@ European Wasps have continually gotten at them all season. I've put up traps for the rotten creatures, and had some success at first. Now, I can't find anything they'll go into the traps for (not even chilis or capsicums). Ginger, turmeric, and galangal have erupted during the wet rainy summer. Well, the galangal popped up in spring, but has stuck up another spike or two each over summer. One of my taro corms is raging away with plenty of leaves, while the other is still presenting short green spikes that don't go anywhere. Still stuffing about with other bits, not much other than chilis and herbs making their way into the kitchen lately. The mozzies are back in abundance. #$%^. ZzzzzzZZZZ!...zzzzZZZ! :/ You're not wrong the we've got tiny little black ones that always seem to bite where you can't reach 'em. I don't s'pose you'd get Hexham Greys out where you are? We live about a block away from the edge of Hexham Swamp and so we get a few from there. They seem to have made a comeback in recent years and I can't say I think that's a good thing. -- Trish Brown {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia I remember the days when based at Williamtown (not a RAAF type though) when SWMBO and myself used to visit folk at West Wallsend. |
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:12:15 +1100, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Trish Brown wrote: SG1 wrote: The other day I left the tank water tap on when giving the dogs a drink. Bugger! The rain atm is helping to make up for my booboo. The pumpkins are going beserk. I reckon you could probably see them growing if you were willing to stand there for an hour or so and watch. DH is about to go out and build a trellisy arrangment to keep the vines out of the rose garden. Talk about peripatetic! (The vines, not the husband...) DH? Dear Hubby? You have to watch those initialisms. I once was at a meeting which included social policy types who were talking about DSEs when another bloke whispered to me "why are they talking about sheep?" I had to explain that they meant Designated Spouse Equivalents not Drenched Sheep Equivalents. Then there was the time I got into terrible trouble talking about Predetermined Motion Time Standards (I am not making this up it actaully happened). David Sorry David, but normal usage for DSE is not as quoted; it is DRY SHEEP EQUIVALENT/S. See below: "The stocking rate of pastures is the number of animals per unit area of land, irrespective of the amount of forage available. Dry sheep equivalents (DSE) The dry sheep equivalent is widely accepted in Australia as the livestock unit to which the feed requirements of other types of livestock can be related most satisfactorily. DSE’s are also used when comparing the profitability of different farming enterprises. A DSE is the estimated energy required to maintain the body weight of a two year old wether" Merino sheep (a non-breeding animal) weighing 45 kg." For one reference (and there are many other sites): http://www.australianboergoat.com.au/index2.php? option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=32&Itemid=27 Keep smiling anm |
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"Trish Brown" wrote in message
This means I have to be vigilant about the foul and disgusting Indian Mynas, who seem to enjoy crown-roast of baby Bluey very much. If anyone's got any clever ideas about scaring them away (the mynas, not the blueys) - Put "Indian Myna trap" into google and you'll get hundreds of hits. |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
Mootilda the cow is settling in well. She and the horses have reached a negotiated settlement. I can now get up to her and touch her without any problem, I know it is just cupboard love because as soon as it is clear that I have no food for her she wanders off but it is s good sign that she is not totally afaid of getting near people. I now have to build some yards and bails so that she can have a visit from the lady with the syringe. You asked some time ago about keeping Mootilda healthy and at the time although I answered, I wasn't really focussed. I've thought about it since and I'd advise 5 in 1 for a few years (unless you know her status, in which case, if she's had a few years of shots don't bother overly - all her calves religiously), lice control and if you get liver fluke in your area, once a year application of flukacide. |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
... I once was at a meeting which included social policy types who were talking about DSEs when another bloke whispered to me "why are they talking about sheep?" I had to explain that they meant Designated Spouse Equivalents not Drenched Sheep Equivalents. LOL. I bet he laughed at that given that it's Dry Sheep Equivalents. Then there was the time I got into terrible trouble talking about Predetermined Motion Time Standards (I am not making this up it actaully happened). Even better! |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message Mootilda the cow is settling in well. She and the horses have reached a negotiated settlement. I can now get up to her and touch her without any problem, I know it is just cupboard love because as soon as it is clear that I have no food for her she wanders off but it is s good sign that she is not totally afaid of getting near people. I now have to build some yards and bails so that she can have a visit from the lady with the syringe. You asked some time ago about keeping Mootilda healthy and at the time although I answered, I wasn't really focussed. I've thought about it since and I'd advise 5 in 1 for a few years (unless you know her status, in which case, if she's had a few years of shots don't bother overly - all her calves religiously), lice control and if you get liver fluke in your area, once a year application of flukacide. Thanks. Are you saying that after a few years of treatment cattle gain permanent immunity to the five diseases? Are cattle lice evident to the normal eye? I will have to ask the local cattlepersons about the liver fluke although a number work on a kind of Darwininian principle (survival of the strongest) and do little to manage their herd, so I am not sure if they would know. I am constantly amazed at the wide variation in pasture and herd management practices, from careful and systematic to the complete laissez faire, just burn the grass in spring and ship the bigger steers to market. I corrected a typo here but some of the seers should be shipped out too. Nevertheless they are all "experts". David |
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"Trish Brown" wrote in message
... Can't we all just say 'infinity' and let it go? Continually feeding these pointless conversations is drowning the ng in fresh, steaming, *unrotted* manure. Y'know, you don't *have* to respond when someone posts something that disagrees with you. Just let it go and we'll all feel better. that's certainly almost always true - however, factual corrections are a different situation. _all_ seedlings really _do_ go better with mulch :-D hee hee. My garden is drooping at the moment. Well, we're watering, but the lawn is overgrown and the beds need a bit of weeding and extra mulch. It's been so hot and humid, no one feels like getting out and doing the usual maintenance. We keep telling each other 'Tomorrow, when it's cooler...', but it never seems to be cool enough! did you get the Mighty Rain at your place? i do hope so. we got it & it's made a transformative difference already. 2 weeks ago my garden was all struggle, but now things are going again. it's wonderful!! The watermelon has covered everything and we have a glut of melons which is getting more and more worrying. The family and neighbours are heartily sick of me asking 'Would you like another melon?' Not only that, but the butternut pumpkin has met up with and conjoined itself to the melon vine. There are umpteen little yellow pear-shaped pumpkins growing among the many melons and I'm visualising pots and pots of pumpkin soup and a plethora of pumpkin pies - oh dear! i have heard (but, now having my 2nd consecutive year of Near-Total Curcurbit Failure *, have not had opportunity to test yet) that if you want to store melons & pumpkins for as long as you can, the mid-season fruits store much better than the last ones. not all pumpkins & melons store for long anyway of course, but if you want to hold on to some for a few months, you might want to put them away now, & then you can harrass & provoke everyone you know with your later offerings in a month or two!! kylie * this really can happen, trust me. |
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"0tterbot" wrote in message
... did you get the Mighty Rain at your place? i do hope so. we got it & it's made a transformative difference already. 2 weeks ago my garden was all struggle, but now things are going again. it's wonderful!! Congratulations! I know just how you feel. It couldn't have come at a better time for giving us an Autumn break - so nice to know we should now have enough grass to get the girls through the winter. i have heard (but, now having my 2nd consecutive year of Near-Total Curcurbit Failure *, (snip) * this really can happen, trust me. I can't understand this at all because it seems to be such a rarity to manage to have such a failure. It has me fascinated. Have you tried adding tspn of Trace elements to the area where you're trying to grow them just in case you have a problem? (Although I realise that could also compound a problem if you have too much of 'X' - but your soil would be classified on the light side in terms of overall fertility I would think. I try to remember to add a tspn once a year but know I'm sloppy about it. I'm better about giving it to my roses as that is part of my routine of looking after them in spring. I can't remember the last time the veg beds a dose and I'll bet my bottom dollar that my garden notebook has nothing to say on the subject either - yet another thing I should be more religious about. |
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:41:17 +1100, Trish Brown wrote:
[...] The mozzies are back in abundance. #$%^. ZzzzzzZZZZ!...zzzzZZZ! :/ You're not wrong the we've got tiny little black ones that always seem to bite where you can't reach 'em. I don't s'pose you'd get Hexham Greys out where you are? We live about a block away from the edge of Hexham Swamp and so we get a few from there. They seem to have made a comeback in recent years and I can't say I think that's a good thing. We have exactly those tiny little black ones. It isn't so much the one-on-one fight as the mob violence that ensues when they gather en masse. Watering time isn't as much fun now as it was before Xmas, and the weeds are growing. I think I know what you mean about the Hexham Greys, we may have had some a few years back -- are they stripy? A few pulling together could just about lift a small child. Sharp painful bite IIRC. Good luck with the Indian Mynas. -- Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia "He plants trees to benefit another generation" - Caecilius Statius |
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Ross McKay wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:41:17 +1100, Trish Brown wrote: [...] The mozzies are back in abundance. #$%^. ZzzzzzZZZZ!...zzzzZZZ! :/ You're not wrong the we've got tiny little black ones that always seem to bite where you can't reach 'em. I don't s'pose you'd get Hexham Greys out where you are? We live about a block away from the edge of Hexham Swamp and so we get a few from there. They seem to have made a comeback in recent years and I can't say I think that's a good thing. We have exactly those tiny little black ones. It isn't so much the one-on-one fight as the mob violence that ensues when they gather en masse. Watering time isn't as much fun now as it was before Xmas, and the weeds are growing. I think I know what you mean about the Hexham Greys, we may have had some a few years back -- are they stripy? A few pulling together could just about lift a small child. Sharp painful bite IIRC. Good luck with the Indian Mynas. Yeah, the Hexham Greys are grey, striped with dark brown or black and *huge*. I had a beaut hit on an IM today: got 'im with the hose on 'jet', right up the Khyber. It made my day! ;- -- Trish Brown {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au... i have heard (but, now having my 2nd consecutive year of Near-Total Curcurbit Failure *, (snip) * this really can happen, trust me. I can't understand this at all because it seems to be such a rarity to manage to have such a failure. It has me fascinated. some of my failures have ME fascinated too. g as of today, i've ended up with 3 young zucchini (fruiting now), 2 cucumbers (we might get some fruit before the frost (?) a siberian melon with only 2 fruits on it (from a seed that got accidentally dropped on the ground!!), & a number of pumpkin plants which are still living but never seem to have made any female flowers(!) and i suspect it's getting much too late for that. nothing else made it. 1: i planted seed late, as the weather here is mental & i was trying to avoid "late" frosts. 2: then, i had germination problems because by then it was getting hot & dry, which led to most of them just not germinating (or perhaps drying out at the crucial moment, more likely). 3: of those which came up, the snails & bugs did most of them in. i often protect wee plants with a cut-off plastic bottle held with a stick, but the snails are simply more numerous than when we arrived, & clearly developing an unnatural intelligence ;-) and the weather seemed to bring a plethora of grasshoppers & such. 4: then i had the swathe of deaths which you have to just accept for little plants when its suddenly turned hot & there's just no rain. 5: of the remainders, i ended up with what's listed above!! so the lack of female flowers on the pumpkins is really the only truly mysterious (to me) situation. the other problems, well, that's life in the garden. luckily i have turned philosophical about these things. one thing i did do which i felt was an excellent idea (despite the failure that followed) is that i put the 2nd (or was it 3rd?) attempt at cucumbers into egg cartons. (potting mix to the top of the hollow, and a seed in each). while they were still really small & hadn't outgrown the hollows in the carton, i split the carton & planted them out (with the bottle covers per above). until most of them died subsequently of the causes outlined above, they were fine, so this is something i think i should do next year; a: you can start them a bit earlier than direct planting & b: they had no problems settling in like if they had been in pots, so then c: they were much more resistant to the heat/dryness. clearly, they were not at all resistant to being reduced to tiny stumps by pests, but there it is. :-) i tried toilet rolls last year, but egg cartons were way better imo. Have you tried adding tspn of Trace elements to the area where you're trying to grow them just in case you have a problem? (Although I realise that could also compound a problem if you have too much of 'X' - but your soil would be classified on the light side in terms of overall fertility I would think. well, yes. plenty of minerals but hardly any humus! i strongly doubt this is quite my thing though. i'm starting to feel inclined to try some of the biodynamic preps. I try to remember to add a tspn once a year but know I'm sloppy about it. I'm better about giving it to my roses as that is part of my routine of looking after them in spring. I can't remember the last time the veg beds a dose and I'll bet my bottom dollar that my garden notebook has nothing to say on the subject either - yet another thing I should be more religious about. i can't emphasis strongly enough that i am an erratic, lazy & fairly disorganised gardener :-) i've come to accept this so now i can work around it. it means i've given up entirely on notebooks, organised rotations, doing things the day i first thought of it, regular applications of x, y or z, and so forth. some of us are more philosophically inclined to work towards acceptance of things rather than change g i also feel that we need to be more open to alternative experiences - i really do know that for most people, cucurbits (esp zucchini & such) are just dead easy, but there are always people or locations where success is not assured. i seem to be in such a location (abetted no doubt by laziness & general disorganisation). on the other hand, imo i'm a pretty good brassica grower & the reality is that i value brassicas more!!!! (we won't discuss here what happened to my bumper broccoli crop in spring - damn the ducks & damn my laziness!) also my tomatoes aren'\t much to write home about, because i quite like eating tomatoes but growing them just isn't my thing, i just can'\t seem to get interested. therefore i think i am saying that my failure with cucurbits is probably not as fascinating as we think it is, it's probably just natural consequences, so i'm fine with that. :-) thanks as ever for input! kylie |
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... "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message . au... i have heard (but, now having my 2nd consecutive year of Near-Total Curcurbit Failure *, (snip) * this really can happen, trust me. I can't understand this at all because it seems to be such a rarity to manage to have such a failure. It has me fascinated. some of my failures have ME fascinated too. g as of today, i've ended up with 3 young zucchini (fruiting now), 2 cucumbers (we might get some fruit before the frost (?) a siberian melon with only 2 fruits on it (from a seed that got accidentally dropped on the ground!!), & a number of pumpkin plants which are still living but never seem to have made any female flowers(!) and i suspect it's getting much too late for that. nothing else made it. What is a siberian melon? 1: i planted seed late, as the weather here is mental & i was trying to avoid "late" frosts. 2: then, i had germination problems because by then it was getting hot & dry, which led to most of them just not germinating (or perhaps drying out at the crucial moment, more likely). 3: of those which came up, the snails & bugs did most of them in. i often protect wee plants with a cut-off plastic bottle held with a stick, but the snails are simply more numerous than when we arrived, & clearly developing an unnatural intelligence ;-) and the weather seemed to bring a plethora of grasshoppers & such. 4: then i had the swathe of deaths which you have to just accept for little plants when its suddenly turned hot & there's just no rain. 5: of the remainders, i ended up with what's listed above!! so the lack of female flowers on the pumpkins is really the only truly mysterious (to me) situation. the other problems, well, that's life in the garden. luckily i have turned philosophical about these things. I pull off the ends of pumpkins when they get a bit too long. I'm sure that I started this after reading that it forced the plant to produce female flowers. I can't remember now but I know I've done it on my one pumpkin plant and it has lots of pumpkins on it - it's one of those slim waisted, pale skinned ones rather than a traditional Qld blue shaped ones. Probably in one of those notebooks of mine, somewhere. I read them now and then and then realise I need to take action and do something. one thing i did do which i felt was an excellent idea (despite the failure that followed) is that i put the 2nd (or was it 3rd?) attempt at cucumbers into egg cartons. (potting mix to the top of the hollow, and a seed in each). while they were still really small & hadn't outgrown the hollows in the carton, i split the carton & planted them out (with the bottle covers per above). until most of them died subsequently of the causes outlined above, they were fine, so this is something i think i should do next year; a: you can start them a bit earlier than direct planting & b: they had no problems settling in like if they had been in pots, so then c: they were much more resistant to the heat/dryness. clearly, they were not at all resistant to being reduced to tiny stumps by pests, but there it is. :-) i tried toilet rolls last year, but egg cartons were way better imo. Have you tried adding tspn of Trace elements to the area where you're trying to grow them just in case you have a problem? (Although I realise that could also compound a problem if you have too much of 'X' - but your soil would be classified on the light side in terms of overall fertility I would think. well, yes. plenty of minerals but hardly any humus! i strongly doubt this is quite my thing though. i'm starting to feel inclined to try some of the biodynamic preps. Perhaps you need to work on building up the humus? If you have healthy soil with lots of earth worms than trace elements shouldn't be a prob. My soil was crap when I began and parts of it still are. I know from some of my pants that I have some deficiencies. This year I really need to do a lot of work over winter in areas that I should never have planted in till I'd done some really good soil prep. I try to remember to add a tspn once a year but know I'm sloppy about it. I'm better about giving it to my roses as that is part of my routine of looking after them in spring. I can't remember the last time the veg beds a dose and I'll bet my bottom dollar that my garden notebook has nothing to say on the subject either - yet another thing I should be more religious about. i can't emphasis strongly enough that i am an erratic, lazy & fairly disorganised gardener :-) That sounds very familiar. My garden is generally a mess but it's a pretty productive one and I do do a bit in some area of the garden every few days at the longest - usually it's something every day but sometimes, I'm not up to it, or not available. The trouble is that in a big garden like mine, is that by the time I get back to that area again, it's a mess again. i've come to accept this so now i can work around it. it means i've given up entirely on notebooks, organised rotations, doing things the day i first thought of it, regular applications of x, y or z, and so forth. some of us are more philosophically inclined to work towards acceptance of things rather than change g I'm not good at organised rotations either but I do try to put things in my garden notebooks because I can never remember things like recipes for pesticides or what particular plants like. i also feel that we need to be more open to alternative experiences - i really do know that for most people, cucurbits (esp zucchini & such) are just dead easy, but there are always people or locations where success is not assured. i seem to be in such a location (abetted no doubt by laziness & general disorganisation). on the other hand, imo i'm a pretty good brassica grower & the reality is that i value brassicas more!!!! (we won't discuss here what happened to my bumper broccoli crop in spring - damn the ducks & damn my laziness!) also my tomatoes aren'\t much to write home about, because i quite like eating tomatoes but growing them just isn't my thing, i just can'\t seem to get interested. therefore i think i am saying that my failure with cucurbits is probably not as fascinating as we think it is, it's probably just natural consequences, so i'm fine with that. :-) Well it does sound liek you are somethimes shovelling it uphill. I seldom see snails here and certainly don't have a duck problem in my garden. My biggest prob is the bloody sulphur cresteds. |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u... as of today, i've ended up with 3 young zucchini (fruiting now), 2 cucumbers (we might get some fruit before the frost (?) a siberian melon with only 2 fruits on it (from a seed that got accidentally dropped on the ground!!), & a number of pumpkin plants which are still living but never seem to have made any female flowers(!) and i suspect it's getting much too late for that. nothing else made it. What is a siberian melon? actually, it might be "black mountain" rather than siberian... i can't recall which & the dropped seed is nowhere near a tag. BUT, either way, a melon which is meant to go better in a cooler climate (i tried other melons 2 years running & got sfa, so i gave up that idea). atm they're as big as softballs (all both of them ;-) with a watermelon pattern on the skin. I pull off the ends of pumpkins when they get a bit too long. I'm sure that I started this after reading that it forced the plant to produce female flowers. now that you mention it, i've heard that too. thanks for reminder (for next year!) well, yes. plenty of minerals but hardly any humus! i strongly doubt this is quite my thing though. i'm starting to feel inclined to try some of the biodynamic preps. Perhaps you need to work on building up the humus? If you have healthy soil with lots of earth worms than trace elements shouldn't be a prob. My soil was crap when I began and parts of it still are. I know from some of my pants that I have some deficiencies. i love a comical typo, fran g ahem. yes. we are adding as much organic matter as possible when all factors are considered,and i HAVE been finding the soil is getting better & darker & there are many more worms, but as you know it all takes time. by "not my thing" i meant adding trace elements, rather than building humus (that sentence came out wrong). i am all for building humus! fortunately, gardening is teaching me patience & forbearance. i will just keep going with the endless rounds of mulching etc. i really am trying to be more organised with applications of liquid goodness while things are still fairly difficult soil-wise, as i think they need it. one day, maybe not. This year I really need to do a lot of work over winter in areas that I should never have planted in till I'd done some really good soil prep. cringe likewise, but i had no patience then. i can't emphasis strongly enough that i am an erratic, lazy & fairly disorganised gardener :-) That sounds very familiar. My garden is generally a mess but it's a pretty productive one and I do do a bit in some area of the garden every few days at the longest - usually it's something every day but sometimes, I'm not up to it, or not available. The trouble is that in a big garden like mine, is that by the time I get back to that area again, it's a mess again. that's it, isn't it. one's energy & other resources (water, mulch, whatever) have to be spread thinly sometimes. i'm no longer doing ornamental gardening on a daily basis like i was for quite some time there, which is a bit of a relief. i'm aiming for a more self-sustaining arrangement now that things are growing in & the shapes & plans of things are starting to be realised. with the veg, there is always something to eat, so i am satisfied with our progress. therefore i think i am saying that my failure with cucurbits is probably not as fascinating as we think it is, it's probably just natural consequences, so i'm fine with that. :-) Well it does sound liek you are somethimes shovelling it uphill. i would agree with that wholeheartedly. :-) it's probably a natural consequence of learning on the job plus having 4000 other things to do which are a permanent distraction (when my house is fully repaired everything will be easier.) I seldom see snails here i found out that the compostibles i get from the cafe where i work sometimes contains snails & slugs!! when i find them in the veggies i kill them before chucking them in the bucket, but nobody else does! (i thought anyone would naturally do that, but apparently not). so i've inherited pests from other people. and when we first came, things were scanty & dry. the more lush the garden gets, the more the snails etc thrive, so i suppose their presence is also a compliment to me ;-). i still kill the ****ers when i find them, though, but don't put out permanent baits or antyhing. and certainly don't have a duck problem in my garden. My biggest prob is the bloody sulphur cresteds. may i never have that problem. i really like the ducks, & they've clearly been breeding on the dams for many years before i came, so it is up to me to get the net out over the brassicas when they're around. (i don't see them outside duckling season, so it's not a permanent problem). likewise the possums who eat the apples - they don't generally bother us, & when the day comes that dh is up to being really organised about the fruit, i suppose they will be less of a problem (or more of one, depending on how you look at it)! i am definitely a fan of picking my battles, otherwise we'd have moved to town about 3 weeks after we got here g kylie |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message Perhaps you need to work on building up the humus? If you have healthy soil with lots of earth worms than trace elements shouldn't be a prob. My soil was crap when I began and parts of it still are. I know from some of my pants that I have some deficiencies. i love a comical typo, fran g :-)) Now you mention it....... ahem. yes. we are adding as much organic matter as possible when all factors are considered,and i HAVE been finding the soil is getting better & darker & there are many more worms, but as you know it all takes time. by "not my thing" i meant adding trace elements, Yep, I had figured that, but given impoverished soil and a constant struggle, it could be worth thinking about. It's not as if it's a poison or taking on board the whole raft of chemical growing. I garden, most of the time, organically but I never call myself an organic gardener as that removes the possibility of the other world where occasionally there are products I might just use. rather than building humus (that sentence came out wrong). i am all for building humus! fortunately, gardening is teaching me patience & forbearance. i will just keep going with the endless rounds of mulching etc. i really am trying to be more organised with applications of liquid goodness while things are still fairly difficult soil-wise, as i think they need it. one day, maybe not. This year I really need to do a lot of work over winter in areas that I should never have planted in till I'd done some really good soil prep. cringe likewise, but i had no patience then. i can't emphasis strongly enough that i am an erratic, lazy & fairly disorganised gardener :-) That sounds very familiar. My garden is generally a mess but it's a pretty productive one and I do do a bit in some area of the garden every few days at the longest - usually it's something every day but sometimes, I'm not up to it, or not available. The trouble is that in a big garden like mine, is that by the time I get back to that area again, it's a mess again. that's it, isn't it. one's energy & other resources (water, mulch, whatever) have to be spread thinly sometimes. i'm no longer doing ornamental gardening on a daily basis like i was for quite some time there, which is a bit of a relief. i'm aiming for a more self-sustaining arrangement now that things are growing in & the shapes & plans of things are starting to be realised. with the veg, there is always something to eat, so i am satisfied with our progress. therefore i think i am saying that my failure with cucurbits is probably not as fascinating as we think it is, it's probably just natural consequences, so i'm fine with that. :-) Well it does sound liek you are somethimes shovelling it uphill. i would agree with that wholeheartedly. :-) it's probably a natural consequence of learning on the job plus having 4000 other things to do which are a permanent distraction (when my house is fully repaired everything will be easier.) I seldom see snails here i found out that the compostibles i get from the cafe where i work sometimes contains snails & slugs!! when i find them in the veggies i kill them before chucking them in the bucket, but nobody else does! (i thought anyone would naturally do that, but apparently not). so i've inherited pests from other people. and when we first came, things were scanty & dry. the more lush the garden gets, the more the snails etc thrive, so i suppose their presence is also a compliment to me ;-). i still kill the ****ers when i find them, though, but don't put out permanent baits or antyhing. and certainly don't have a duck problem in my garden. My biggest prob is the bloody sulphur cresteds. may i never have that problem. i really like the ducks, & they've clearly been breeding on the dams for many years before i came, so it is up to me to get the net out over the brassicas when they're around. (i don't see them outside duckling season, so it's not a permanent problem). likewise the possums who eat the apples - they don't generally bother us, & when the day comes that dh is up to being really organised about the fruit, i suppose they will be less of a problem (or more of one, depending on how you look at it)! i am definitely a fan of picking my battles, otherwise we'd have moved to town about 3 weeks after we got here g LOL. A delightful post, as usual. |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au... ahem. yes. we are adding as much organic matter as possible when all factors are considered,and i HAVE been finding the soil is getting better & darker & there are many more worms, but as you know it all takes time. by "not my thing" i meant adding trace elements, Yep, I had figured that, but given impoverished soil and a constant struggle, it could be worth thinking about. It's not as if it's a poison or taking on board the whole raft of chemical growing. I garden, most of the time, organically but I never call myself an organic gardener as that removes the possibility of the other world where occasionally there are products I might just use. i must confess i use zero from time to time on weeds in the paths (although i'm apparently converting to vinegar ;-) although that's the only thing. even so, many of my friends don't know this!!! g anyway, back to the soil problem. that what why i got to thinking about the bio preparations. which i'm still thinking about. it's true that i'd feel a twit carefully stirring clockwise x times & so forth, but then again i've seen what they can do. in further news!!! dh found some little potimarron* lurking on the potimarron vines!!! and the pumpkin (dutch crookneck) has finally made 2 female flowers. if the frost holds off, we should at least get a couple of potimarron i hope. i don't know if the frost will hold off or not. fingers crossed. kylie * many people don't know these - they are the king of french pumpkins. i'm not really a pumpkin person so it's all a bit lost on me, but they're the pumpkin-lovers' delight. |
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... "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message . au... ahem. yes. we are adding as much organic matter as possible when all factors are considered,and i HAVE been finding the soil is getting better & darker & there are many more worms, but as you know it all takes time. by "not my thing" i meant adding trace elements, Yep, I had figured that, but given impoverished soil and a constant struggle, it could be worth thinking about. It's not as if it's a poison or taking on board the whole raft of chemical growing. I garden, most of the time, organically but I never call myself an organic gardener as that removes the possibility of the other world where occasionally there are products I might just use. i must confess i use zero from time to time on weeds in the paths (although i'm apparently converting to vinegar ;-) although that's the only thing. even so, many of my friends don't know this!!! g :-)) Well given the noxious weed value of some of Oz's weeds, we have to use herbicides around the place and I have my own personal 5 L container. I should say that it only contains a dribble in the bottom and I've only ever asked once in about the last 10 years for a redribble from Himself's farm supply so I don't use a lot of it. I do also own a small container of tree/blackberry killer and I've only ever used that applied with a paint brush. anyway, back to the soil problem. that what why i got to thinking about the bio preparations. which i'm still thinking about. it's true that i'd feel a twit carefully stirring clockwise x times & so forth, but then again i've seen what they can do. I must admit that I've only ever read about it and never seen it but would like to. I know some quite hard bitten farmers seem to think it has some power of good and I know that Phillip Adams's farm (or is it his wife's farm) is run on bio lines and Phillip is enough of a sceptic to make me wonder about it too. in further news!!! dh found some little potimarron* lurking on the potimarron vines!!! What the....? and the pumpkin (dutch crookneck) has finally made 2 female flowers. if the frost holds off, we should at least get a couple of potimarron i hope. i don't know if the frost will hold off or not. fingers crossed. Yep - it's getting rather nippy already :-((( It'll be a bit longer yet before my rockmelons are ripe so I must hunt out some old windows to put over them. kylie * many people don't know these - they are the king of french pumpkins. i'm not really a pumpkin person so it's all a bit lost on me, but they're the pumpkin-lovers' delight. Ah - so that's what they are. Where do you get your unusual seeds from. |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u... * many people don't know these - they are the king of french pumpkins. i'm not really a pumpkin person so it's all a bit lost on me, but they're the pumpkin-lovers' delight. Ah - so that's what they are. Where do you get your unusual seeds from. they're not unusual within the french-speaking community round here (and presumably elsewhere) :-) i will give you some! conrad the veggie man also sells them sometimes, but i'm not sure about this year(?) diggers, eden, & some of those people have seeds which have unfortunately become unusual these days (this is why i think they provide a valuable service). i reckon people who are REALLY into heirloom flowers & veg would benefit greatly from joining the seed-savers network (i save some seed but truthfully i don't have quite that level of interest or commitment - i just want to feed myself & family). i have a few gardening friends who've given me some nice things too - it would be good to join or create a really devoted & enthusiastic veggie gardener's club (i reckon). kylie |
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"0tterbot" wrote in message
... "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message u... * many people don't know these - they are the king of french pumpkins. i'm not really a pumpkin person so it's all a bit lost on me, but they're the pumpkin-lovers' delight. Ah - so that's what they are. Where do you get your unusual seeds from. they're not unusual within the french-speaking community round here (and presumably elsewhere) :-) i will give you some! conrad the veggie man also sells them sometimes, but i'm not sure about this year(?) diggers, eden, & some of those people have seeds which have unfortunately become unusual these days (this is why i think they provide a valuable service). i reckon people who are REALLY into heirloom flowers & veg would benefit greatly from joining the seed-savers network (i save some seed but truthfully i don't have quite that level of interest or commitment - i just want to feed myself & family). i have a few gardening friends who've given me some nice things too - it would be good to join or create a really devoted & enthusiastic veggie gardener's club (i reckon). Speaking of seed saving, I've just been saving bean and cucumber seeds so dug out my seed saving books. the American one 'Seed to seed' gives me the poops, whereas the Aussie on done by Michel and Jude Fanton is just the bees whiskers. But yes, I agree with you about the veggie growers club. I'm part of a network of gardeners like that here but it's an underground thing really. |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
... i have a few gardening friends who've given me some nice things too - it would be good to join or create a really devoted & enthusiastic veggie gardener's club (i reckon). Speaking of seed saving, I've just been saving bean and cucumber seeds so dug out my seed saving books. the American one 'Seed to seed' gives me the poops, whereas the Aussie on done by Michel and Jude Fanton is just the bees whiskers. i agree, _that_ is an excellent book (indeed it's the only seed saving book i even have). But yes, I agree with you about the veggie growers club. I'm part of a network of gardeners like that here but it's an underground thing really. i think that's what tends to happen, it would just be nice to have lots of organised, involved people all in it together & have public meetings. or something. actually, what am i saying? :-) i have some spare potimarron seed with your name on it!! kylie |
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"0tterbot" wrote in message
... "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message ... i have a few gardening friends who've given me some nice things too - it would be good to join or create a really devoted & enthusiastic veggie gardener's club (i reckon). Speaking of seed saving, I've just been saving bean and cucumber seeds so dug out my seed saving books. the American one 'Seed to seed' gives me the poops, whereas the Aussie on done by Michel and Jude Fanton is just the bees whiskers. i agree, _that_ is an excellent book (indeed it's the only seed saving book i even have). But yes, I agree with you about the veggie growers club. I'm part of a network of gardeners like that here but it's an underground thing really. i think that's what tends to happen, it would just be nice to have lots of organised, involved people all in it together & have public meetings. or something. actually, what am i saying? :-) i have some spare potimarron seed with your name on it!! Thank you Kylie. I need to send you an 'e' about a garden tour - we've changed providers. |
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