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Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
Thought the following news item might be of interest ...
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
On 19 Aug 2003 00:29:33 -0700, (lumberjack)
wrote: Thought the following news item might be of interest ... Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm When I was in California last month I was warned to beware of the brown recluse spiders that were apparently quite common in the area. One of the people I was with was already deeply arachnaphobic and totally spun out when, while we were dining outside at the hotel, several spiders slowly descended on threads of silk and one landed on his head. It was so funny -- boy could that guy dance! Turns out they were just a harmless spider that inhabits the trees and hangs down on a thread trying to catch moths at night. -- you can contact me via http://aardvark.co.nz/contact/ |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
On 19 Aug 2003 00:29:33 -0700, (lumberjack)
wrote: Thought the following news item might be of interest ... Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm When I was in California last month I was warned to beware of the brown recluse spiders that were apparently quite common in the area. One of the people I was with was already deeply arachnaphobic and totally spun out when, while we were dining outside at the hotel, several spiders slowly descended on threads of silk and one landed on his head. It was so funny -- boy could that guy dance! Turns out they were just a harmless spider that inhabits the trees and hangs down on a thread trying to catch moths at night. -- you can contact me via http://aardvark.co.nz/contact/ |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 1:51:59 -0700, Bruce Simpson wrote:
When I was in California last month I was warned to beware of the brown recluse spiders that were apparently quite common in the area. One of the people I was with was already deeply arachnaphobic and totally spun out when, while we were dining outside at the hotel, several spiders slowly descended on threads of silk and one landed on his head. It was so funny -- boy could that guy dance! Turns out they were just a harmless spider that inhabits the trees and hangs down on a thread trying to catch moths at night. Rick Vetter, spider specialist in the Dept of Entomology at UC Riverside insists that there are no brown recluse (Loxosceles reclusa) in California. He acknowledges the presence of L. deserta in the Eastern deserts of the state, as well as a couple of isolated populations of L. laeta that have been unintentionally imported from South America. But he says these populations do not coincide with the areas in which there are reports of brown recluse bites. He notes that an occasional L. reclusa may "hitchhike" with travelers, but is adamant that there are no colonies of this spider in the state. He has an interesting set of web pages on L. reclusa and other "problem" spiders (http://spiders.ucr.edu/) and is currently sponsoring the "spider challenge" in which he is asking people to send him L. reclusa candidates collected in California. He says that to date none of the spiders sent to him have been L. reclusa. Here is the challenge page: http://spiders.ucr.edu/challenge.html Tlacatecatl Tlacaxipe |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
lumberjack wrote:
Thought the following news item might be of interest ... Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm Damnit. I just killed a white-tail not long ago. I don't like killing animals that I'm not goingn to eat or that do not pose a threat to me :-( -- Are you registered as a bone marrow donor? You regenerate what you donate. You are offered the chance to donate only if you match a person on the recipient list. Visit www.marrow.org or call your local Red Cross and ask about registering to be a bone marrow donor. spam trap: replace shyah_right! with hotmail when replying |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
thanks for that info the local myth here in northern nsw coast region is
that the white-tail spider is a very real threat i doubt whether many people will believe me when i tell them of this study, but at least it reassures me "lumberjack" wrote in message om... Thought the following news item might be of interest ... Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"rapdor" writes:
thanks for that info the local myth here in northern nsw coast region is that the white-tail spider is a very real threat i doubt whether many people will believe me when i tell them of this study, but at least it Not being bitten is a policy which has always worked well for me. Nick. -- http://www.nick-andrew.net/ http:/...ews-admin.org/ Do not send me email copies of postings. Keep it in USENET please. |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"spodosaurus" wrote in message
... Damnit. I just killed a white-tail not long ago. I don't like killing animals that I'm not goingn to eat or that do not pose a threat to me :-( Imagine how many totally innocent white-tails have been summarily executed on the basis of the original bad science. Another tragic example of the dangers of the death penalty. Tony |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:13:54 GMT, spodosaurus
wrote: lumberjack wrote: Thought the following news item might be of interest ... Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm Damnit. I just killed a white-tail not long ago. I don't like killing animals that I'm not goingn to eat or that do not pose a threat to me :-( It depends on whether you think a really painful bite constitutes a threat. I've only been bitten once and it was worse than a paper-wasp sting -- kind of like a red hot needle being pushed into your flesh. The effects were only temporary though -- some itching and red swelling followed but it all subsided within a day (no creams or potions were used). If you've got lots of other spiders then it's almost certain you'll have white-tails as well --s ince their main food is other spiders. I never kill them unless I'm in a hurry and there's no easy way to get them outside. What *is* fun is to catch a little white-tail and stick it in a jar. Then get one of those great big fat house-spiders that make webs outside and put it in the same jar. Sometimes you get to see the "action" but more often you can leave them overnight and come back to find that the big spider is "deflated" and the white-tail is a little bigger. -- you can contact me via http://aardvark.co.nz/contact/ |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
Nick Andrew wrote:
"rapdor" writes: thanks for that info the local myth here in northern nsw coast region is that the white-tail spider is a very real threat i doubt whether many people will believe me when i tell them of this study, but at least it Not being bitten is a policy which has always worked well for me. Nick. Quite frankly, I think the White-tailed Spider was only ever an imagined threat compared to the very clear and present danger of those blasted Garden Orb Weavers! They incorporate steel cable into their webs (could only come from a regular diet of pig-iron, I tell you!) and the sensation of being caught in one which has been knitted across one's carport is beyond frightening! I believe the psychological damage that arises from capture by the Garden Orb Weaver *far* outstrips any piddling necrotising ulceration of the flesh caused by White Tailed Spiders! Have you never performed the Dance of Fear and Loathing as you frantically slapped at your body and bellowed 'Where'sthespider?Where'sthespider?Where'sthespide r?' to any and all onlookers? No, gimme Mr White Tail any day! I knew all along he was a sweet little bloke! -- Trish {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"lumberjack" wrote in message om... Thought the following news item might be of interest ... Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm Now I feel guilty, I have killed about 100 of the wee critters lately, seems it was unjustified. I could be had up for arachnicide, hell. Judy |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
In article 3f4236da$0$23584$5a62ac22
@freenews.iinet.net.au, says... :) Another tragic example of the :) dangers of the death penalty. :) :) Oh I'm sure the spiders were guilty of something. :P -- http://home.comcast.net/~larflu/spid2.jpg Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!! |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"lumberjack"
Thought the following news item might be of interest ... Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm ----------- I took the liberty of forwarding the above to the "Venom Mailing List". This reply includes the URL for the original publication and an editorial. /djh/ ---------- Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer Not completely, according the original article: http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/...b10785_fm.html "These data suggest that spiders are an extremely uncommon cause of necrotic or cytotoxic lesions, and should be considered only at the end of a long list of other differential diagnoses." Posters name deleted. /djh/ Who suspects that the spiders mothers knew all along - their prodigy were innocent! -- donald j haarmann ----------------------------- "In nature there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are consequences! " |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"Kereru" wrote in message ... "lumberjack" wrote in message om... Thought the following news item might be of interest ... Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm Now I feel guilty, I have killed about 100 of the wee critters lately, seems it was unjustified. I could be had up for arachnicide, hell. Judy The female of the species is more deadly than the male. - Old Jungle Saying :) Neil |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"Kereru" wrote in message ... "lumberjack" wrote in message om... Thought the following news item might be of interest ... Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm Now I feel guilty, I have killed about 100 of the wee critters lately, seems it was unjustified. I could be had up for arachnicide, hell. Judy And so you should be :) Spidah /\(**)/\ |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"Lar" wrote in message t... In article 3f4236da$0$23584$5a62ac22 @freenews.iinet.net.au, says... :) Another tragic example of the :) dangers of the death penalty. :) :) Oh I'm sure the spiders were guilty of something. :P -- Yes, their eyes are too close together. Some of them, at least. |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"YnoT" wrote in message . au... "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... Damnit. I just killed a white-tail not long ago. I don't like killing animals that I'm not goingn to eat or that do not pose a threat to me :-( Imagine how many totally innocent white-tails have been summarily executed on the basis of the original bad science. Another tragic example of the dangers of the death penalty. Tony I feel so guilty now. But hey, I like your post path. Thnx 4 that:) A |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:32:32 +0800, "Neil Gerace"
wrote: "Kereru" wrote in message ... "lumberjack" wrote in message om... Thought the following news item might be of interest ... Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm Now I feel guilty, I have killed about 100 of the wee critters lately, seems it was unjustified. I could be had up for arachnicide, hell. Judy The female of the species is more deadly than the male. - Old Jungle Saying But Kipling thought of it first. -- Brian Dooley Wellington New Zealand |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
Oh I'm sure the spiders were guilty of something. :P -- Yes, their eyes are too close together. Some of them, at least. And too far apart on the other buggers. |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
The white-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of
flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s926733.htm Eh.. I will never go to Australia cuz you have the most ugly and scary spiders I've ever seen ;-P P. |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"Trish Brown" wrote in message ... .............. Have you never performed the Dance of Fear and Loathing as you frantically slapped at your body and bellowed 'Where'sthespider?Where'sthespider?Where'sthespide r?' to any and all onlookers? ....all onlookers? - they're releasing 'em in your garage, T, bringing deckchairs just to watch the show :) |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"jg"
"Trish Brown" wrote in message ... ............. Have you never performed the Dance of Fear and Loathing as you frantically slapped at your body and bellowed 'Where'sthespider?Where'sthespider?Where'sthespide r?' to any and all onlookers? ...all onlookers? - they're releasing 'em in your garage, T, bringing deckchairs just to watch the show :) --------- Your toooooooooooo late. The "Tarantella" goes back to 1374! If not earlier. http://www.streetswing.com/histmain/z3tartla.htm -- donald j haarmann - independently dubious |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 2:50:00 -0700, Trish Brown wrote:
Quite frankly, I think the White-tailed Spider was only ever an imagined threat compared to the very clear and present danger of those blasted Garden Orb Weavers! They incorporate steel cable into their webs (could only come from a regular diet of pig-iron, I tell you!) and the sensation of being caught in one which has been knitted across one's carport is beyond frightening! I believe the psychological damage that arises from capture by the Garden Orb Weaver *far* outstrips any piddling necrotising ulceration of the flesh caused by White Tailed Spiders! Have you never performed the Dance of Fear and Loathing as you frantically slapped at your body and bellowed 'Where'sthespider?Where'sthespider?Where'sthespide r?' to any and all onlookers? One of the most delightful posts I've read in a while, thanks. Tlacatecatl Tlacaxipe |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
donald j haarmann wrote:
"jg" "Trish Brown" wrote in message ... ............. Have you never performed the Dance of Fear and Loathing as you frantically slapped at your body and bellowed 'Where'sthespider?Where'sthespider?Where'sthespide r?' to any and all onlookers? ...all onlookers? - they're releasing 'em in your garage, T, bringing deckchairs just to watch the show :) --------- Your toooooooooooo late. The "Tarantella" goes back to 1374! If not earlier. http://www.streetswing.com/histmain/z3tartla.htm -- donald j haarmann - independently dubious Well, IMHO, we here in Oz ought to instigate an Eriophorella in honour of that deadly and dangerous foe, the Garden Orb Weaver. I reckon Tarantulas have *nuthin'* on the cold, vicelike constriction felt around the heart of an _Eriophora_ victim as s/he realises the inexorability of being confronted by the owner of the web that just stuck fast in their face and hair! Be dubious no longer! The cardiac complications of Intimate Contact with a Garden Orb Weaver have to be experienced to be believed! You *must* concede the point here! When have you *ever* walked innocently into an _Eriophora_ web and - - walked calmly out again? Ppbblfft! Do you *really* want me to believe you weren't suddenly afflicted by a compulsion to dance and flap your arms about? To kick your legs up and stomp your feet? To whirl about, shaking and waving? Just because it's older, doesn't mean the Tarantella is any more indicative of Tarantular Deadliness than an Eriophorella might be of Orb Weaver Worry! Even the Sydney Funnel Web pales in comparison, I feel! When you have eyeball to eyeballs contact with a Funnel Web in your garden, you know perfectly well what you're faced with. Times eight! You evacuate forthwith and then you leave the vicinity. Walk into an Orb Weaver web and it's the Unknown that undoes one. Who knows where the spider is? Could be in your hair. Could be in your ear. Could be in the bush/tree/post from which the web was strung. Who knows? Could be walking up your leg with designs on biting a hunk out of your - er - body. Are you complacent enough, indeed sanguine enough to just *stand* there and *not* do the Dance of Fear and Loathing? I rest my case! -- Trish {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia PS. Seriously, though. It really *ought* to be called an Eriophorella - it's a perfect description of what one does! ;-D |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"Trish Brown" wrote in message ... donald j haarmann wrote: "jg" "Trish Brown" wrote in message ... ............. Have you never performed the Dance of Fear and Loathing as you frantically slapped at your body and bellowed 'Where'sthespider?Where'sthespider?Where'sthespide r?' to any and all onlookers? ...all onlookers? - they're releasing 'em in your garage, T, bringing deckchairs just to watch the show :) --------- Your toooooooooooo late. The "Tarantella" goes back to 1374! If not earlier. http://www.streetswing.com/histmain/z3tartla.htm -- donald j haarmann - independently dubious Well, IMHO, we here in Oz ought to instigate an Eriophorella in honour of that deadly and dangerous foe, the Garden Orb Weaver. I reckon Tarantulas have *nuthin'* on the cold, vicelike constriction felt around the heart of an _Eriophora_ victim as s/he realises the inexorability of being confronted by the owner of the web that just stuck fast in their face and hair! Be dubious no longer! The cardiac complications of Intimate Contact with a Garden Orb Weaver have to be experienced to be believed! You *must* concede the point here! When have you *ever* walked innocently into an _Eriophora_ web and - - walked calmly out again? Ppbblfft! Do you *really* want me to believe you weren't suddenly afflicted by a compulsion to dance and flap your arms about? To kick your legs up and stomp your feet? To whirl about, shaking and waving? Just because it's older, doesn't mean the Tarantella is any more indicative of Tarantular Deadliness than an Eriophorella might be of Orb Weaver Worry! Even the Sydney Funnel Web pales in comparison, I feel! When you have eyeball to eyeballs contact with a Funnel Web in your garden, you know perfectly well what you're faced with. Times eight! You evacuate forthwith and then you leave the vicinity. Walk into an Orb Weaver web and it's the Unknown that undoes one. Who knows where the spider is? Could be in your hair. Could be in your ear. Could be in the bush/tree/post from which the web was strung. Who knows? Could be walking up your leg with designs on biting a hunk out of your - er - body. Are you complacent enough, indeed sanguine enough to just *stand* there and *not* do the Dance of Fear and Loathing? It's not your fear (which I share), it's the wonderfully colourful description which promises a hugely entertaining spectacle. |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
"John" writes:
Yes, their eyes are too close together. Some of them, at least. I always give a spider the benefit of the doubt. I won't kill one unless it's of a really dangerous species. You just count their legs--the dangerous ones have eight. -- John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup) |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
On 30 Aug 2003 , John Savage wrote :
"John" writes: Yes, their eyes are too close together. Some of them, at least. I always give a spider the benefit of the doubt. I won't kill one unless it's of a really dangerous species. You just count their legs--the dangerous ones have eight. ....and even they aren't too dangerous after their thickness has been reduced to 0.01mm. -- Nicolaas. - An optimist is a guy without much experience... |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
Anyone here get Imparja television(satellite TV)? They have a mascot named
Yamba; the honey ant. Well, if watch him doing his "kids go to bed now" session at 8pm, and you count the number of legs, Yamba is obviously a freaking spider!!! And a big sucker at that.... It scares me that no-one seems to notice.....sigh. Cheers, Rod... Out Back "John Savage" wrote in message om... "John" writes: Yes, their eyes are too close together. Some of them, at least. I always give a spider the benefit of the doubt. I won't kill one unless it's of a really dangerous species. You just count their legs--the dangerous ones have eight. -- John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup) |
Spider cleared of causing flesh-eating ulcer?
Yep, eight legs alright... doesn't look to dangerous though ;-)
http://www.imparja.com.au/yamba.htm With that expression, it looks like the only danger he presents is to himself. "Rod Out back" wrote in message ... Anyone here get Imparja television(satellite TV)? They have a mascot named Yamba; the honey ant. Well, if watch him doing his "kids go to bed now" session at 8pm, and you count the number of legs, Yamba is obviously a freaking spider!!! And a big sucker at that.... It scares me that no-one seems to notice.....sigh. Cheers, Rod... Out Back "John Savage" wrote in message om... "John" writes: Yes, their eyes are too close together. Some of them, at least. I always give a spider the benefit of the doubt. I won't kill one unless it's of a really dangerous species. You just count their legs--the dangerous ones have eight. -- John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup) |
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