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plat4 21-09-2003 07:42 PM

Keeping snakes away
 




I'm all for balance in nature and preserve the animals and bugs and
serpents and all that crap but I just have too many snakes in my yard. I have
removed by hand ( they're garden snakes) 10 this month alone. They are an
annoyance to my children and visitors and I would like to rid my yard of them.
I tried that "snake away" product and it's totally useless ( Yes I followed the
directions closely). Any other suggestions to rid my yard of these snakes?.
Also, I won't be responding to any posts by those condemning me for wanting my
yard snake-free so don't bother, save your condemnation for someone else.
Sorry, thought I had to mention that after reading some of these threads.


Thanks in advance for any useful advice.

plat4 21-09-2003 07:42 PM

Keeping snakes away
 




I meant "Garter snakes".

Trish Brown 21-09-2003 11:34 PM

Keeping snakes away
 
plat4 wrote:

I'm all for balance in nature and preserve the animals and bugs and
serpents and all that crap but I just have too many snakes in my yard. I have
removed by hand ( they're garden snakes) 10 this month alone. They are an
annoyance to my children and visitors and I would like to rid my yard of them.
I tried that "snake away" product and it's totally useless ( Yes I followed the
directions closely). Any other suggestions to rid my yard of these snakes?.
Also, I won't be responding to any posts by those condemning me for wanting my
yard snake-free so don't bother, save your condemnation for someone else.
Sorry, thought I had to mention that after reading some of these threads.

Thanks in advance for any useful advice.


Erm... 'garden' or 'garter' snakes don't occur here in Oz. I would be *happy* to
swap you snakes, though! I have a Red Bellied Black snake in my garden (a very
handsome fellow, about five feet long) and I live in fear that he might bite my
dog and kill her. Are your garden/garter snakes deadly?

The only thing I've done that works is to use the garden hose on 'jet'. That
will move one snake one time. It's not a solution. I'd be glad to hear of
others, though...

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

David Hare-Scott 22-09-2003 01:36 AM

Keeping snakes away
 

"Trish Brown" wrote in message
...
plat4 wrote:

Erm... 'garden' or 'garter' snakes don't occur here in Oz. I would be

*happy* to
swap you snakes, though! I have a Red Bellied Black snake in my garden

(a very
handsome fellow, about five feet long) and I live in fear that he

might bite my
dog and kill her. Are your garden/garter snakes deadly?

The only thing I've done that works is to use the garden hose on

'jet'. That
will move one snake one time. It's not a solution. I'd be glad to hear

of
others, though...

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, NSW, Australia


I am no herpetologist but have you looked at why this snake sticks
around? Do you have a particularly good environment for snakes? Do you
supply their needs for food, water or shelter?

We have them here down by the river, apparently they like creeks, ponds
and canals. I can't change the river (who would want to) so I tell
people to take care walking by it and to give the snake a chance to run
(slither?) away.

Do you have a water source that is attracting it?

See here http://www.wildlife-australia.com/red.htm for some info.

David



David Hare-Scott 22-09-2003 01:37 AM

Keeping snakes away
 

"Trish Brown" wrote in message
...
plat4 wrote:

Erm... 'garden' or 'garter' snakes don't occur here in Oz. I would be

*happy* to
swap you snakes, though! I have a Red Bellied Black snake in my garden

(a very
handsome fellow, about five feet long) and I live in fear that he

might bite my
dog and kill her. Are your garden/garter snakes deadly?

The only thing I've done that works is to use the garden hose on

'jet'. That
will move one snake one time. It's not a solution. I'd be glad to hear

of
others, though...

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, NSW, Australia


I am no herpetologist but have you looked at why this snake sticks
around? Do you have a particularly good environment for snakes? Do you
supply their needs for food, water or shelter?

We have them here down by the river, apparently they like creeks, ponds
and canals. I can't change the river (who would want to) so I tell
people to take care walking by it and to give the snake a chance to run
(slither?) away.

Do you have a water source that is attracting it?

See here http://www.wildlife-australia.com/red.htm for some info.

David



David Hare-Scott 22-09-2003 01:37 AM

Keeping snakes away
 

"Trish Brown" wrote in message
...
plat4 wrote:

Erm... 'garden' or 'garter' snakes don't occur here in Oz. I would be

*happy* to
swap you snakes, though! I have a Red Bellied Black snake in my garden

(a very
handsome fellow, about five feet long) and I live in fear that he

might bite my
dog and kill her. Are your garden/garter snakes deadly?

The only thing I've done that works is to use the garden hose on

'jet'. That
will move one snake one time. It's not a solution. I'd be glad to hear

of
others, though...

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, NSW, Australia


I am no herpetologist but have you looked at why this snake sticks
around? Do you have a particularly good environment for snakes? Do you
supply their needs for food, water or shelter?

We have them here down by the river, apparently they like creeks, ponds
and canals. I can't change the river (who would want to) so I tell
people to take care walking by it and to give the snake a chance to run
(slither?) away.

Do you have a water source that is attracting it?

See here http://www.wildlife-australia.com/red.htm for some info.

David



David Hare-Scott 22-09-2003 01:41 AM

Keeping snakes away
 

"Trish Brown" wrote in message
...
plat4 wrote:

Erm... 'garden' or 'garter' snakes don't occur here in Oz. I would be

*happy* to
swap you snakes, though! I have a Red Bellied Black snake in my garden

(a very
handsome fellow, about five feet long) and I live in fear that he

might bite my
dog and kill her. Are your garden/garter snakes deadly?

The only thing I've done that works is to use the garden hose on

'jet'. That
will move one snake one time. It's not a solution. I'd be glad to hear

of
others, though...

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, NSW, Australia


I am no herpetologist but have you looked at why this snake sticks
around? Do you have a particularly good environment for snakes? Do you
supply their needs for food, water or shelter?

We have them here down by the river, apparently they like creeks, ponds
and canals. I can't change the river (who would want to) so I tell
people to take care walking by it and to give the snake a chance to run
(slither?) away.

Do you have a water source that is attracting it?

See here http://www.wildlife-australia.com/red.htm for some info.

David



David Hare-Scott 22-09-2003 01:47 AM

Keeping snakes away
 

"Trish Brown" wrote in message
...

Erm... 'garden' or 'garter' snakes don't occur here in Oz. I would be

*happy* to
swap you snakes, though! I have a Red Bellied Black snake in my garden

(a very
handsome fellow, about five feet long) and I live in fear that he

might bite my
dog and kill her. Are your garden/garter snakes deadly?

The only thing I've done that works is to use the garden hose on

'jet'. That
will move one snake one time. It's not a solution. I'd be glad to hear

of
others, though...

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, NSW, Australia


Also

http://www.zoo.org.au/education/Imagedir/snakes.pdf

David



Jock 22-09-2003 02:24 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
For land snakes, pour a line of salt around your boundary and outside your
doorways. It must be at least 10mm high. Snakes don't like salt, you never
see any on the beaches so that should prove this theory.
Make sure the salt is fine and not rock salt, the snakes can be injured by
the rock salt.
Jock

"plat4" wrote in message
...




I'm all for balance in nature and preserve the animals and bugs

and
serpents and all that crap but I just have too many snakes in my yard. I

have
removed by hand ( they're garden snakes) 10 this month alone. They are an
annoyance to my children and visitors and I would like to rid my yard of

them.
I tried that "snake away" product and it's totally useless ( Yes I

followed the
directions closely). Any other suggestions to rid my yard of these

snakes?.
Also, I won't be responding to any posts by those condemning me for

wanting my
yard snake-free so don't bother, save your condemnation for someone else.
Sorry, thought I had to mention that after reading some of these threads.


Thanks in advance for any useful advice.




len gardener 22-09-2003 02:45 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
g'day plat4,

although you've asked the question in an aussie group, in general
snakes will only hang around if you create the right habitat, that is
you have attracted their food source to your garden and your garden
itself makes it a welcome place to be for them eg.,. plenty of
undergrowth and leaves to hide in as well as maybe a water feature a
lot of snakes are attracted to water. and the water feature probably
attracts frogs and native toads (this is all very good for
conservation of species and the amphibians also help control bugs in
the garden) but they are food for a lot of snakes. include rodents in
the above selection as well.

you may get some ideas out of all that, if not you may just have to
learn to live with the issue.

len

snipped
--
happy gardening
'it works for me it could work for you,'

"in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment
http://home.dnet.aunz.com/gardnlen/

plat4 22-09-2003 03:52 AM

Keeping snakes away
 




Yes I know it's an aussie group. I figured who would know about
snakes more than you guys. If I am not mistaken sometimes Australia is called
the " reptile continent" with not that many species of mammals. Thanks for the
advice btw.


Manos

plat4 22-09-2003 03:55 AM

Keeping snakes away
 




Yes I know it's an aussie group. I figured who would know about
snakes more than you guys. If I am not mistaken sometimes Australia is called
the " reptile continent" with not that many species of mammals. Thanks for the
advice btw.


Manos

Anthony (Tony) Cameron 22-09-2003 04:49 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:20:03 GMT, "Jock"
wrote:

For land snakes, pour a line of salt around your boundary and outside your
doorways. It must be at least 10mm high. Snakes don't like salt, you never
see any on the beaches so that should prove this theory.
Make sure the salt is fine and not rock salt, the snakes can be injured by
the rock salt.
Jock



I think that might be an old wive's tale. As a child I used to catch
snakes on Central and North Coast beaches. Mostly carpet snakes
(pythons) but they certainly spent a lot of time sunning themselves
around beach areas. Currently I have found snakes in my sal****er pool
on several occasions.

Tony

Anthony (Tony) Cameron 22-09-2003 04:50 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:20:03 GMT, "Jock"
wrote:

For land snakes, pour a line of salt around your boundary and outside your
doorways. It must be at least 10mm high. Snakes don't like salt, you never
see any on the beaches so that should prove this theory.
Make sure the salt is fine and not rock salt, the snakes can be injured by
the rock salt.
Jock



I think that might be an old wive's tale. As a child I used to catch
snakes on Central and North Coast beaches. Mostly carpet snakes
(pythons) but they certainly spent a lot of time sunning themselves
around beach areas. Currently I have found snakes in my sal****er pool
on several occasions.

Tony

Jock 22-09-2003 06:02 AM

Keeping snakes away
 

"Anthony (Tony) Cameron" wrote in message
news:5irsmvkvf0ibs0vq5skg98pdk7uem3kuu6@primus...
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:20:03 GMT, "Jock"
wrote:

For land snakes, pour a line of salt around your boundary and outside

your
doorways. It must be at least 10mm high. Snakes don't like salt, you

never
see any on the beaches so that should prove this theory.
Make sure the salt is fine and not rock salt, the snakes can be injured

by
the rock salt.
Jock



I think that might be an old wive's tale. As a child I used to catch
snakes on Central and North Coast beaches. Mostly carpet snakes
(pythons) but they certainly spent a lot of time sunning themselves
around beach areas. Currently I have found snakes in my sal****er pool
on several occasions.

Tony


These snakes were desparate, they were trying to top themselves.
Believe the salt thing, it works.
Jock



Chookie 28-09-2003 04:02 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
In article ,
"Jock" wrote:

For land snakes, pour a line of salt around your boundary and outside your
doorways. It must be at least 10mm high. Snakes don't like salt, you never
see any on the beaches so that should prove this theory.


Sorry, but I've actually seen a small red-bellied black sunning itself on
Bundeena beach at 11am! There were lots of people around, but nobody seemed
interested in spreading their towels anywhere near him...

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"...children should continue to be breastfed... for up to two years of age
or beyond." -- Innocenti Declaration, Florence, 1 August 1990

John Savage 01-10-2003 02:13 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
(plat4) writes:
Yes I know it's an aussie group. I figured who would know about
snakes more than you guys. If I am not mistaken sometimes Australia is called
the " reptile continent" with not that many species of mammals. Thanks for the
advice btw.


Australia does have its fair share of mammals. As for our "reptile"
reputation ... apparently you haven't met many Aussie men?? ;-)
--
John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)


John Savage 01-10-2003 02:13 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
Anthony (Tony) Cameron writes:
I think that might be an old wive's tale. As a child I used to catch
snakes on Central and North Coast beaches.


At a beach once I noticed a black snake dozing on the sand right where I
was going to sit! My guess is that it found the habitat well provisioned--
rats attracted by the food discarded by people using the beach by day.

Currently I have found snakes in my sal****er pool
on several occasions.


I once had spiteful neighbours, too! I moved. ;-)
--
John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)


John Savage 01-10-2003 02:18 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
(plat4) writes:
Yes I know it's an aussie group. I figured who would know about
snakes more than you guys. If I am not mistaken sometimes Australia is called
the " reptile continent" with not that many species of mammals. Thanks for the
advice btw.


Australia does have its fair share of mammals. As for our "reptile"
reputation ... apparently you haven't met many Aussie men?? ;-)
--
John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)


John Savage 01-10-2003 02:18 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
Anthony (Tony) Cameron writes:
I think that might be an old wive's tale. As a child I used to catch
snakes on Central and North Coast beaches.


At a beach once I noticed a black snake dozing on the sand right where I
was going to sit! My guess is that it found the habitat well provisioned--
rats attracted by the food discarded by people using the beach by day.

Currently I have found snakes in my sal****er pool
on several occasions.


I once had spiteful neighbours, too! I moved. ;-)
--
John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)


John Savage 01-10-2003 02:20 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
(plat4) writes:
Yes I know it's an aussie group. I figured who would know about
snakes more than you guys. If I am not mistaken sometimes Australia is called
the " reptile continent" with not that many species of mammals. Thanks for the
advice btw.


Australia does have its fair share of mammals. As for our "reptile"
reputation ... apparently you haven't met many Aussie men?? ;-)
--
John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)


John Savage 01-10-2003 02:20 AM

Keeping snakes away
 
Anthony (Tony) Cameron writes:
I think that might be an old wive's tale. As a child I used to catch
snakes on Central and North Coast beaches.


At a beach once I noticed a black snake dozing on the sand right where I
was going to sit! My guess is that it found the habitat well provisioned--
rats attracted by the food discarded by people using the beach by day.

Currently I have found snakes in my sal****er pool
on several occasions.


I once had spiteful neighbours, too! I moved. ;-)
--
John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)



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