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DouglasTaylor 26-03-2003 09:44 PM

[IBC] Couple of Larch Questions
 
I have a couple of Larch questions:

In a few bonsai reference books I have, it is stated that larch root work best be done when the buds are golden or just starting to show green. If the buds have opened up to the "shaving brush stage" you are in the danger zone and if they have elongated an
d you disturb the roots the tree will likely die.

If the buds have not yet turned Golden but the soil is unfrozen is it risky to re-pot?

In Colin Lewis's latest, I.M.H.O. fantastic, book he suggest (paraphrased I hope miss-quoted I hope not) not wiring or leaving wire on larches over the winter because it causes Twig/branch die back.

I asked New England's Larch expert, Mr. Ogre of the two dozen fields, if he noticed this effect on his larches and he said "NO I give most of my larches the dental wire treatment every winter and never noticed die-back any worse then on other trees" .

I was thinking (look out) the great pony tailed one might be talking European Larches while Mr. Ogre works mainly with American Larches and that may be the reason for the conflicting advice.

What have your experiences been? Do you wire your larches during the long winter or wait until the busy spring?

Doug Taylor

Zone 5 Mass.

Bonsai Society of Greater Springfield, Mass.
www.geocities.com/springfieldbonsai/

Han-Pul, Korean Martial Arts Site
www.hanpul.com


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kevin bailey 26-03-2003 11:08 PM

[IBC] Couple of Larch Questions
 
I collect and lift Larches from autumn (fall) through to when the buds
begin to open. They very rarely fail. Having said that, if it is a
developed tree, why take any risks? Wait until the buds look swollen and
then repot.

We get mild winters so my experiences of wire problems are not as
relevant. I wire at any time when there are no leaves on the tree. The
only ones I've had problems with are ones that I bent too far!-(

Cheers
Kev Bailey


I have a couple of Larch questions:

In a few bonsai reference books I have, it is stated that larch root
work best be done when the buds are golden or just starting to show
green. If the buds have opened up to the "shaving brush stage" you are
in the danger zone and if they have elongated and you disturb the roots
the tree will likely die.

If the buds have not yet turned Golden but the soil is unfrozen is it
risky to re-pot?

In Colin Lewis's latest, I.M.H.O. fantastic, book he suggest
(paraphrased I hope miss-quoted I hope not) not wiring or leaving wire
on larches over the winter because it causes Twig/branch die back.

I asked New England's Larch expert, Mr. Ogre of the two dozen fields, if
he noticed this effect on his larches and he said "NO I give most of my
larches the dental wire treatment every winter and never noticed
die-back any worse then on other trees" .

I was thinking (look out) the great pony tailed one might be talking
European Larches while Mr. Ogre works mainly with American Larches and
that may be the reason for the conflicting advice.

What have your experiences been? Do you wire your larches during the
long winter or wait until the busy spring?



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R. Michael Waterhouse 26-03-2003 11:44 PM

[IBC] Couple of Larch Questions
 
Hello Doug:

your question:

What have your experiences been? Do you wire your larches during the long winter or wait until the busy spring?

I wire Larch from the beginning of February through early May here in Maine. I keep my Larch outside, mulched with pine needles but after I wire I protect them from cold wind to minimize any die-back. I find the earlier I wire the less I tend to disturb
the buds.


I asked New England's Larch expert, Mr. Ogre of the two dozen fields......

I'm a bit of an American Larch nut myself. Who is Mr Ogre? does he have a website? Is he in the New England area?

Mike Waterhouse -
President, Kennebec Valley Bonsai Club
Litchfield, Maine
Zone 4-5

The more I study nature,
the more I am amazed
at the creator. -Louis Pasteur-
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I have a couple of Larch questions:

In a few bonsai reference books I have, it is stated that larch root work best be done when the buds are golden or just starting to show green. If the buds have opened up to the "shaving brush stage" you are in the danger zone and if they have elongated an
d you disturb the roots the tree will likely die.

If the buds have not yet turned Golden but the soil is unfrozen is it risky to re-pot?

In Colin Lewis's latest, I.M.H.O. fantastic, book he suggest (paraphrased I hope miss-quoted I hope not) not wiring or leaving wire on larches over the winter because it causes Twig/branch die back.

if he noticed this effect on his larches and he said "NO I give most of my larches the dental wire treatment every winter and never noticed die-back any worse then on other trees" .

I was thinking (look out) the great pony tailed one might be talking European Larches while Mr. Ogre works mainly with American Larches and that may be the reason for the conflicting advice.


Doug Taylor

Zone 5 Mass.

Bonsai Society of Greater Springfield, Mass.
www.geocities.com/springfieldbonsai/

Han-Pul, Korean Martial Arts Site
www.hanpul.com


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