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[IBC] Using wire to thicken base of trunk - HELP!
I read somewhere that you can wrap a wire around the base of a tree that has
reverse taper to thicken it. I mentioned this at a bonsai club meeting and was told that if you "girdle" the trunk you'll kill the tree. 1) I can't remember where I read it. Anyone have a reference? 2) Does the wire work or will it kill the tree? Thanks, John __________________________________________________ _______________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Using wire to thicken base of trunk - HELP!
I read somewhere that you can wrap a wire around the base of a
tree that has reverse taper to thicken it. I mentioned this at a bonsai club meeting and was told that if you "girdle" the trunk you'll kill the tree. 1) I can't remember where I read it. Anyone have a reference? If you find it, I'd wad it up. You MIGHT thicken a trunk with wire, but only if you scar the trunk so badly with concentric rings that no one would want to look at it. There are other so-called "quick" ways to fatten trunks (poking them randomly a zillion times with an icepick in the area you want to fatten, is one) but they all wind up with badly scarred and horribly ugly trunks. The best way to get rid of reverse taper that is low on the trunk is an air layer where the trunk is fattest. But there are no shortcuts. 2) Does the wire work or will it kill the tree? The tree will survive but you (and it?) might wish it hadn't. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Using wire to thicken base of trunk - HELP!
I THINK that the girdling was mentioned specifically in an issue of the New
England Bonsai (The nursery) newsletter dealing with the culture and developement of Japanese White Pines (in Japan, by professionals) for export. As I recall, this was done to swell the trunks and give them a more aged look. Also, as I recall, this seemed to limit the age of survival to around 100 years, vs much longer for "ungirdled" trees. Seems like they've been doing it for a while. Also sounds like no job for amateurs. Regards, Bart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lewis" To: Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:44 PM Subject: [IBC] Using wire to thicken base of trunk - HELP! I read somewhere that you can wrap a wire around the base of a tree that has reverse taper to thicken it. I mentioned this at a bonsai club meeting and was told that if you "girdle" the trunk you'll kill the tree. 1) I can't remember where I read it. Anyone have a reference? If you find it, I'd wad it up. You MIGHT thicken a trunk with wire, but only if you scar the trunk so badly with concentric rings that no one would want to look at it. There are other so-called "quick" ways to fatten trunks (poking them randomly a zillion times with an icepick in the area you want to fatten, is one) but they all wind up with badly scarred and horribly ugly trunks. The best way to get rid of reverse taper that is low on the trunk is an air layer where the trunk is fattest. But there are no shortcuts. 2) Does the wire work or will it kill the tree? The tree will survive but you (and it?) might wish it hadn't. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Using wire to thicken base of trunk - HELP!
From: Jim Lewis
If you find it, I'd wad it up. I found a reference although not the one I was looking for. Bonsai Techniques I - John Y. Naka Faulty Trunk - Page 35 - Figure 89 (Inverted Shape) "A reversed shape showing the trunk larger than the base is unpleasant. Wrapping some wires closely and tightly around the small area will help increase the base. Watch carefully, do not let the wires cut into the bark." John-NJ __________________________________________________ _______________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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