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[IBC] crabapple species?
Would anyone know what species wild crabapple would be? I collected a
couple in an abandoned pasture in Maine a couple of years ago, and would be interested in finding out the botanical name. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] crabapple species?
"Craig Cowing" wrote in message ... Would anyone know what species wild crabapple would be? I collected a couple in an abandoned pasture in Maine a couple of years ago, and would be interested in finding out the botanical name. I suggest you use http://plants.usda.gov/ , select Scientific name and search for malus. Everything that starts with Malus is your candidate. Take a look at the pictures (incl. distribution) and you'll probably find it. |
[IBC] crabapple species?
Would anyone know what species wild crabapple would be? I
collected a couple in an abandoned pasture in Maine a couple of years ago, and would be interested in finding out the botanical name. There aren't any native crabapples from Maine, so it is MOST likely to be the common apple, Malus sylvestris (AKA, M. pumila -- or 'wild apple'). I suppose it could be an escaped crab, but that seems extremely unlikely. Jerry Stowell's "The Beginner's Guide to American Bonsai" covers apple bonsai in some detail. With all the collecting you do, Craig, you Really, Really need to get a good tree ID book for the N.E. U.S.A.. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] crabapple species?
Jim Lewis wrote:
Would anyone know what species wild crabapple would be? I collected a couple in an abandoned pasture in Maine a couple of years ago, and would be interested in finding out the botanical name. There aren't any native crabapples from Maine, so it is MOST likely to be the common apple, Malus sylvestris (AKA, M. pumila -- or 'wild apple'). I suppose it could be an escaped crab, but that seems extremely unlikely. Jerry Stowell's "The Beginner's Guide to American Bonsai" covers apple bonsai in some detail. With all the collecting you do, Craig, you Really, Really need to get a good tree ID book for the N.E. U.S.A.. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden I have one--Audubon Society. It's good, but doesn't cover everything. I was thinking it might be a sub-variety of the common apple, but wasn't sure. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] crabapple species?
Would anyone know what species wild crabapple would be?
I should think an avid collector like you would have a field guide. The most common species in the Northeast is Malus coronaria. However, there are other species around, so you need a good monograph to be sure. Also, an abandoned pasture might have all sorts of exotic species from apples that the cows ate. To learn about crabapples, get Father Fiala's book. By the way, the danger of collecting a whole tree is that you will get borers. it may be more judicious to take an air layer. Thet is what I wish I had done. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
[IBC] crabapple species?
"Jim Lewis" wrote in message news:001601c30a5e$b6bf4da0$df102cc7@pavilion... Would anyone know what species wild crabapple would be? I collected a couple in an abandoned pasture in Maine a couple of years ago, and would be interested in finding out the botanical name. There aren't any native crabapples from Maine, so it is MOST likely to be the common apple, Malus sylvestris (AKA, M. pumila -- or 'wild apple'). I suppose it could be an escaped crab, but that seems extremely unlikely. According to http://plants.usda.gov those apples can be found in Maine: Malus baccata (Siberian crabapple) Malus prunifolia (plumleaf crabapple) Malus pumila (paradise apple) |
[IBC] crabapple species?
There aren't any native crabapples from Maine, so it is MOST likely to be the common apple, Malus sylvestris (AKA, M. pumila -- or 'wild apple'). I suppose it could be an escaped crab, but that seems extremely unlikely. According to http://plants.usda.gov those apples can be found in Maine: Malus baccata (Siberian crabapple) Malus prunifolia (plumleaf crabapple) Malus pumila (paradise apple) None of which are native. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] crabapple species?
"Jim Lewis" wrote in message news:001501c30a6a$1920d8a0$ba112cc7@pavilion... According to http://plants.usda.gov those apples can be found in Maine: Malus baccata (Siberian crabapple) Malus prunifolia (plumleaf crabapple) Malus pumila (paradise apple) None of which are native. Craig asked for a name not whether the tree is native. The fact that he found it on a pasture could as well mean that it is one of the non-native ones. That's why I said that everything Malus was a candidate in the first place. Those three are just more likely candidates. |
[IBC] crabapple species?
Luke Tulkas wrote:
Craig asked for a name not whether the tree is native. The fact that he found it on a pasture could as well mean that it is one of the non-native ones. That's why I said that everything Malus was a candidate in the first place. Those three are just more likely candidates. I looked at the leaves again, and I think it is Malus sylvestris. The leaves match perfectly. What I didn't know was if a wild crabapple could be of this species, or a different one. It definitely is a crabapple though. The apples on the ground when I collected it were small and crabby. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] crabapple species?
Luke Tulkas wrote:
Craig asked for a name not whether the tree is native. The fact that he found it on a pasture could as well mean that it is one of the non-native ones. That's why I said that everything Malus was a candidate in the first place. Those three are just more likely candidates. I looked at the leaves again, and I think it is Malus sylvestris. The leaves match perfectly. What I didn't know was if a wild crabapple could be of this species, or a different one. It definitely is a crabapple though. The apples on the ground when I collected it were small and crabby. Which they also are on a feral domestic apple. ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] crabapple species?
Jim Lewis wrote:
snip I looked at the leaves again, and I think it is Malus sylvestris. The leaves match perfectly. What I didn't know was if a wild crabapple could be of this species, or a different one. It definitely is a crabapple though. The apples on the ground when I collected it were small and crabby. Which they also are on a feral domestic apple. ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden Ok, I didn't know that. So, should I call it an apple or crabapple? It doesn't make any difference to me. What would be most accurate? Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] crabapple species?
Craig Cowing wrote:
...So, should I call it an apple or crabapple? It doesn't make any difference to me. What would be most accurate? Call it "Malus" (no more syllables than "apple). If pressed for specifics, "Malus species" Accurate and true :) With Malus towards none, and crabapples for all, Anita -- Northern Harford County, Maryland, USDA zone 6 "I like winter trees against the sky, I said. What does that say about you, she said, that you like undressed trees. A voyeur." -from a poem by Kay Cheever ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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