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[IBC] San Jose Juniper questions
In a message dated 4/27/2003 7:05:17 AM Mountain Standard Time,
writes: I'm new to San Jose junipers, so I have a few questions. Is scrubbing the bark for the red color recommended on this tree? Any disadvantages? I think that if you do this, you are negating one of the main ADVANTAGES to San Jose junipers as bonsai, namely the way they "bark up" quickly to give you an aged look. San Jose junipers can easily look much older than they actually are because of this. Why scrub the bark off? Kimura stated that the only reason this is done so often in Japan is that many junipers grow on rocky coast lines there where the bark is often "scrubbed" by sand and wind. So, the Japanese style their junipers to match the way they often grow in the Japanese environment. If this is not true for your environment, you are copying the Japanese style and not nature. Better to style your juniper towards it's strong point than to it's weakness. FWIW. Best Regards, Daniel Avrin Department of Homeland Senility ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] San Jose Juniper questions
Hi Dan,
I believe that either you have mischaracterized Mr. Kimura's sentiment or the statment was taken out of context (or perhaps Mr. Kimura did not express the fullness of his ideas on the subject). In any event, the polishing of juniper bark is *not* done only because of the Japanese tradition based on the quality of sand-scrubbed, coastline junipers. It is done also because it is beautiful, the contrast that results can bring drama and emphasis to the composition, it gets rid of the large strips of bark that can destroy a sense of scale in the composition ,etc... In other words, this is done for artistic reasons - many and varied ones. Surely there are some who do it merely to copy the work of others, but this practice should not define the general aims and effects. Kind regards, Andy Rutledge zone 8, Texas www.bunjindesign.com/bonsai/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Avrin" I think that if you do this, you are negating one of the main ADVANTAGES to San Jose junipers as bonsai, namely the way they "bark up" quickly to give you an aged look. San Jose junipers can easily look much older than they actually are because of this. Why scrub the bark off? Kimura stated that the only reason this is done so often in Japan is that many junipers grow on rocky coast lines there where the bark is often "scrubbed" by sand and wind. So, the Japanese style their junipers to match the way they often grow in the Japanese environment. If this is not true for your environment, you are copying the Japanese style and not nature. Better to style your juniper towards it's strong point than to it's weakness. FWIW. Best Regards, Daniel Avrin ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] San Jose Juniper questions
Thanks for all the opinions. Dan provided the answer I was seeking. I
didn't realize the bark on these was valued. Maybe I'll try scrubbing the bark on something else. -- David Crighton Springfield (Illinois) Bonsai Society "Daniel Avrin" wrote in message ... In a message dated 4/27/2003 7:05:17 AM Mountain Standard Time, writes: I'm new to San Jose junipers, so I have a few questions. Is scrubbing the bark for the red color recommended on this tree? Any disadvantages? I think that if you do this, you are negating one of the main ADVANTAGES to San Jose junipers as bonsai, namely the way they "bark up" quickly to give you an aged look. San Jose junipers can easily look much older than they |
[IBC] San Jose Juniper questions
David Crighton wrote:
Michael, You don't agree that the bark "ages" quickly and gives the younger trees a sense of age? or You don't agree that the bark is valued more than the scrubbed bark? I don't think Dan or I were saying the latter. -- David Crighton Springfield (Illinois) Bonsai Society I have a number of junipers of different varieties (sargents, procumbens, Parson's) and have found that by removing the outer, peeling bark I discover small spots of shari, the veins of the trunk, etc. which I would say gives the tree more character than the outer peeling bark. IMHO. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] San Jose Juniper questions
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I have a few San Jose's I prefer not to peel or scrub the old bark. I think it looks better with the rough looking bark. I don't care for the polished look. SteveWLI NY ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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