Dunno about bark scrubbing, I've not tried it on mine.

By heavily pinching juvenile needle like growth you can eventually
encourage it to mostly produce mature scale like growth.

Cheers

Kev Bailey

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I'm new to San Jose junipers, so I have a few questions.

Is scrubbing the bark for the red color recommended on this tree? Any
disadvantages?

I assume that the new buds are pinched like any other juniper,
correct?

Any other issues with this species that I should be aware of?

David Crighton
Springfield (Illinois) Bonsai Society

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In a message dated 4/27/2003 7:05:17 AM Mountain Standard Time,
writes:

I'm new to San Jose junipers, so I have a few questions.

Is scrubbing the bark for the red color recommended on this tree? Any
disadvantages?


I think that if you do this, you are negating one of the main ADVANTAGES to
San Jose junipers as bonsai, namely the way they "bark up" quickly to give
you an aged look. San Jose junipers can easily look much older than they
actually are because of this. Why scrub the bark off? Kimura stated that
the only reason this is done so often in Japan is that many junipers grow on
rocky coast lines there where the bark is often "scrubbed" by sand and wind.
So, the Japanese style their junipers to match the way they often grow in the
Japanese environment. If this is not true for your environment, you are
copying the Japanese style and not nature. Better to style your juniper
towards it's strong point than to it's weakness. FWIW.

Best Regards,
Daniel Avrin
Department of Homeland Senility

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Hi Dan,

I believe that either you have mischaracterized Mr. Kimura's sentiment or
the statment was taken out of context (or perhaps Mr. Kimura did not express
the fullness of his ideas on the subject). In any event, the polishing of
juniper bark is *not* done only because of the Japanese tradition based on
the quality of sand-scrubbed, coastline junipers. It is done also because
it is beautiful, the contrast that results can bring drama and emphasis to
the composition, it gets rid of the large strips of bark that can destroy a
sense of scale in the composition ,etc...

In other words, this is done for artistic reasons - many and varied ones.
Surely there are some who do it merely to copy the work of others, but this
practice should not define the general aims and effects.

Kind regards,
Andy Rutledge
zone 8, Texas
www.bunjindesign.com/bonsai/


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From: "Daniel Avrin"
I think that if you do this, you are negating one of the main ADVANTAGES
to
San Jose junipers as bonsai, namely the way they "bark up" quickly to give
you an aged look. San Jose junipers can easily look much older than they
actually are because of this. Why scrub the bark off? Kimura stated that
the only reason this is done so often in Japan is that many junipers grow
on
rocky coast lines there where the bark is often "scrubbed" by sand and
wind.
So, the Japanese style their junipers to match the way they often grow in
the
Japanese environment. If this is not true for your environment, you are
copying the Japanese style and not nature. Better to style your juniper
towards it's strong point than to it's weakness. FWIW.
Best Regards,
Daniel Avrin

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Thanks for all the opinions. Dan provided the answer I was seeking. I
didn't realize the bark on these was valued. Maybe I'll try scrubbing the
bark on something else.

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Springfield (Illinois) Bonsai Society
"Daniel Avrin" wrote in message
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In a message dated 4/27/2003 7:05:17 AM Mountain Standard Time,
writes:

I'm new to San Jose junipers, so I have a few questions.

Is scrubbing the bark for the red color recommended on this tree? Any
disadvantages?


I think that if you do this, you are negating one of the main ADVANTAGES
to
San Jose junipers as bonsai, namely the way they "bark up" quickly to give
you an aged look. San Jose junipers can easily look much older than they

David Crighton wrote:

Michael,

You don't agree that the bark "ages" quickly and gives the younger trees a
sense of age?

or

You don't agree that the bark is valued more than the scrubbed bark?

I don't think Dan or I were saying the latter.

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Springfield (Illinois) Bonsai Society

I have a number of junipers of different varieties (sargents, procumbens, Parson's)
and have found that by removing the outer, peeling bark I discover small spots of
shari, the veins of the trunk, etc. which I would say gives the tree more
character than the outer peeling bark. IMHO.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a

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I have a few San Jose's I prefer not to peel or scrub the old bark. I think
it looks better with the rough looking bark. I don't care for the polished
look.
SteveWLI NY

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