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[IBC] Constructing display posts
Michael: I found pre-cast concrete forms at Home Depot which are perfect
for your stands. They have a slot for a 4 X 4 post. After inserting the 4 X 4, you can keep the post from wobbling by driving a wedge between the post and the concrete. As for the slate platform idea, you have to be concerned about the heat radiation thrown up on hot days. Ever walk on slate on a hot day with bare feet? If your feet won't stand it, neither will your trees. Just build a simple wood platform out of 2 X 4s. Joint the pieces with two 2 X 2s underneath the platform. Marty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Pollock" To: Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: [IBC] Constructing display posts I'm thinking of adding display posts to my backyard (often called Monkey posts, although I've never known why). Anyone have any construction advice? I was thinking of using treated lumber for the verticals and pieces of slate (which I have on hand) for the horizontal surfaces. How would I secure the slate if I made them this way? Thanks for your help, Mike Pollock Westchester County, NY, Zone 6 "ish" Webmaster for www.yamakibonsai.org ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Constructing display posts
Mike: This is a question that is harder to answer on a text forum, but I don't have
the photos available to show anyway. I made my display posts using treated landscape timbers for posts. I set them in 24" holes and poured concrete footings to secure them. I made them varying heights to accommodate different sized trees and to provide visual dynamics. On the top of the posts I screwed with stainless steel 3" screws a 2"x12" piece of board of the length I thought I would need for pots. Usually this was 20"-25". I also made four supporting corbels out of treated 2"x4" with a gradual ogee curve. These were placed to radiate out from each corner of the landscape timber post. (If you use a 4"x4" you would need to chamfer the corners.) Finally, I bought 1"x16" redwood to cover the top and screwed it to the 2"x12". I modeled this after what I had seen in Vaughn Banting's bonsai area. He graciously gave me a template for the corbels with the ogee curves. He told me that he made several variations before finding the one with the most pleasing curves. The devil is in the details! Alan Walker, Lake Charles, LA, USA http://LCBSBonsai.org http://bonsai-bci.com P.S. It was nice getting to meet you at MABS 2003. ==================================== Michael Pollock wrote: I'm thinking of adding display posts to my backyard (often called Monkey posts, although I've never known why). Anyone have any construction advice? I was thinking of using treated lumber for the verticals and pieces of slate (which I have on hand) for the horizontal surfaces. How would I secure the slate if I made them this way? Thanks for your help, Mike Pollock Westchester County, NY, Zone 6 "ish" Webmaster for www.yamakibonsai.org ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Constructing display posts
In a message dated 4/28/2003 9:16:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes:
Anyone have any construction advice? I was thinking of using treated lumber for the verticals and pieces of slate (which I have on hand) for the horizontal surfaces. How would I secure the slate if I made them this way? Mike and Others: You can see how I construct my posts at the following url. http://members.aol.com/iasnob/NewJersey.html You will need to replace the pressure treated four-by-four timber every 10 or so years. Cordially, Michael Persiano members.aol.com/iasnob/index.html ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Constructing display posts
Michael,
I've made several different types of these over the years. Older ones used treated 4x4 or the treated "garden ties" (that have flat sides but rounded ends) and I've used cement cast tops and cedar/redwood latice tops, but, the last couple years I prefer , and will continue to use, treated 4x6 to give a much nicer stable view with cement cast log rounds or cement cast cypress cedar slabs. Both are cast as walkway pieces in a couple sizes/shapes. They are sturdier and last longer that lattice tops for me. I drill a hole through center with masonry bit and predrill a starter hole in top of post then mount slab with a long lag bolt. I use a large washer on lag bolt to distribute pressure. ( use some soap on the lag to go in nice). BTW, I DON'T use cement to hold them in place. You don't really need it, just tamp soil good around post using a 2x4 or something. Makes them easier to move someday! Also, I DON'T go three feet down for frost. 2 feet works just fine!. You are not building a house...just putting a poll in the ground!BUT, it's best to use a post hole digger instead of spade so hole stays roughly the size of post making filling and support easier/better. Regards, Dale Cochoy Michael Pollock wrote: I'm thinking of adding display posts to my backyard (often called Monkey posts, although I've never known why). Anyone have any construction advice? I was thinking of using treated lumber for the verticals and pieces of slate (which I have on hand) for the horizontal surfaces. How would I secure the slate if I made them this way? Thanks for your help, Mike Pollock Westchester County, NY, Zone 6 "ish" Webmaster for www.yamakibonsai.org ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Constructing display posts
Dale,
I was just wandering what the results of your POLL? : ) Was it a scientific poll or just for fun? LOL Chriss Flagg Puyallup, WA The Other Washington ----- Original Message ----- From: "dalecochoy" To: Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:49 AM Subject: [IBC] Constructing display posts .. You are not building a house...just putting a poll in the ground!BUT, it's best to use a post hole digger instead of spade so hole stays roughly the size of post making filling and support easier/better. Regards, Dale Cochoy ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Constructing display posts
Alan,
Can you please explain corbels and ogee curves. I am currently try to work out how I will make two tops for some concrete uprights I have. I also want to put a roof over because of their aspect. I thought I would use thin bamboo for the roof. Is it possible to take a photo for the gallery. Thanks Lynette Sydney Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Walker" ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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