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dalecochoy 27-06-2003 07:22 PM

[IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lewis"
Subject: [IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines

some snips:
I tend to agree, Iris. I had a brief discussion with someone on
this not long ago about Bonsai Today, after I complained about
issue #84 (which I did NOT buy):


When I buy BT today, I do it primarily for the gallery,


You're right, I'm only one person, but the feeling is shared by a
couple of folks in my local club. The BTs stocked by the local
Borders have gone largely unsold the last few issues. I think 82
sold out (they only get 3!), but 83 did not, and 84 is
languishing. The club bought one copy of it to raffle off at our
show last weekend -- ONE ticket (!). (We made $75 on raffle
tickets.)


Jim,
I can just see you standing at the magazine rack in Borders reading the
magazine and trying to decide to buy it! Why don't you subscribe to the
magazine instead of counting on getting it at the local store if they aren't
sold out.? Of course, if so, you will have to put up with that inferior
issue sometimes.
There are several reasons why magazines ( of any kind) have a tough go once
in a while. Advertising subscriptions ( and BT certainly charges well for
that!) and subscription drops. You could really help out BT and possibly
help it improve it's content by actually supporting it with a subscription.
Another real "magazine killer" is the group ( sounds like your club here)
that buys a magazine or gets a subscription then passes it around for
everyone to read! i fear this is also a problem with books!
I liked "Bonsai Europe" so well that for the second year now I asked members
of the local club if they wanted to get in on a group order. I had several
takers. They get it "brought to them by me" at meetings and get it overall
cheaper than buying it singularly by themselves. The only small
hassle....getting everyones money after they order it, but, that's a slight
problem and the magazine is soooo good.
Regards,
Dale Cochoy

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Jim Lewis 27-06-2003 07:24 PM

[IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines
 
Jim,
I can just see you standing at the magazine rack in Borders

reading the
magazine and trying to decide to buy it! Why don't you

subscribe to the
magazine instead of counting on getting it at the local store

if they aren't
sold out.? Of course, if so, you will have to put up with that

inferior
issue sometimes.


I do not buy more often than I do buy, Dale.


There are several reasons why magazines ( of any kind) have a

tough go once
in a while. Advertising subscriptions ( and BT certainly

charges well for
that!) and subscription drops. You could really help out BT and

possibly
help it improve it's content by actually supporting it with a

subscription.

Don't they get more per issue at news-stand prices? They should
consider the one magaziine in 3 (or so) that I DO buy as a bonus.
;-)

Another real "magazine killer" is the group ( sounds like your

club here)
that buys a magazine or gets a subscription then passes it

around for
everyone to read!


No. We don't subscribe as a club. I don't think ANYone in our
club subscribes any more. Most take BCI's "Bonsai" and of course
we all get the Fla. Bonsai Journal. Some get ABS. I think I'm
the only one that gets International Bonsai, but I may be wrong.
One of the members subscribes to 2 or 3 Japanese bonsai
magazines.

Personally, I'm down to 2 bonsai magazine subscriptions now . . .
BCI's and International Bonsai. That's enough, with the
occasional purchase of BT when they deal with a tree that I like.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase
'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman

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dalecochoy 27-06-2003 07:25 PM

[IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lewis"
Subject: [IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines

some snips:
I tend to agree, Iris. I had a brief discussion with someone on
this not long ago about Bonsai Today, after I complained about
issue #84 (which I did NOT buy):


When I buy BT today, I do it primarily for the gallery,


You're right, I'm only one person, but the feeling is shared by a
couple of folks in my local club. The BTs stocked by the local
Borders have gone largely unsold the last few issues. I think 82
sold out (they only get 3!), but 83 did not, and 84 is
languishing. The club bought one copy of it to raffle off at our
show last weekend -- ONE ticket (!). (We made $75 on raffle
tickets.)


Jim,
I can just see you standing at the magazine rack in Borders reading the
magazine and trying to decide to buy it! Why don't you subscribe to the
magazine instead of counting on getting it at the local store if they aren't
sold out.? Of course, if so, you will have to put up with that inferior
issue sometimes.
There are several reasons why magazines ( of any kind) have a tough go once
in a while. Advertising subscriptions ( and BT certainly charges well for
that!) and subscription drops. You could really help out BT and possibly
help it improve it's content by actually supporting it with a subscription.
Another real "magazine killer" is the group ( sounds like your club here)
that buys a magazine or gets a subscription then passes it around for
everyone to read! i fear this is also a problem with books!
I liked "Bonsai Europe" so well that for the second year now I asked members
of the local club if they wanted to get in on a group order. I had several
takers. They get it "brought to them by me" at meetings and get it overall
cheaper than buying it singularly by themselves. The only small
hassle....getting everyones money after they order it, but, that's a slight
problem and the magazine is soooo good.
Regards,
Dale Cochoy

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Jim Lewis 27-06-2003 07:26 PM

[IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines
 
Jim,
I can just see you standing at the magazine rack in Borders

reading the
magazine and trying to decide to buy it! Why don't you

subscribe to the
magazine instead of counting on getting it at the local store

if they aren't
sold out.? Of course, if so, you will have to put up with that

inferior
issue sometimes.


I do not buy more often than I do buy, Dale.


There are several reasons why magazines ( of any kind) have a

tough go once
in a while. Advertising subscriptions ( and BT certainly

charges well for
that!) and subscription drops. You could really help out BT and

possibly
help it improve it's content by actually supporting it with a

subscription.

Don't they get more per issue at news-stand prices? They should
consider the one magaziine in 3 (or so) that I DO buy as a bonus.
;-)

Another real "magazine killer" is the group ( sounds like your

club here)
that buys a magazine or gets a subscription then passes it

around for
everyone to read!


No. We don't subscribe as a club. I don't think ANYone in our
club subscribes any more. Most take BCI's "Bonsai" and of course
we all get the Fla. Bonsai Journal. Some get ABS. I think I'm
the only one that gets International Bonsai, but I may be wrong.
One of the members subscribes to 2 or 3 Japanese bonsai
magazines.

Personally, I'm down to 2 bonsai magazine subscriptions now . . .
BCI's and International Bonsai. That's enough, with the
occasional purchase of BT when they deal with a tree that I like.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase
'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman

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dalecochoy 27-06-2003 07:26 PM

[IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lewis"
Subject: [IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines

some snips:
I tend to agree, Iris. I had a brief discussion with someone on
this not long ago about Bonsai Today, after I complained about
issue #84 (which I did NOT buy):


When I buy BT today, I do it primarily for the gallery,


You're right, I'm only one person, but the feeling is shared by a
couple of folks in my local club. The BTs stocked by the local
Borders have gone largely unsold the last few issues. I think 82
sold out (they only get 3!), but 83 did not, and 84 is
languishing. The club bought one copy of it to raffle off at our
show last weekend -- ONE ticket (!). (We made $75 on raffle
tickets.)


Jim,
I can just see you standing at the magazine rack in Borders reading the
magazine and trying to decide to buy it! Why don't you subscribe to the
magazine instead of counting on getting it at the local store if they aren't
sold out.? Of course, if so, you will have to put up with that inferior
issue sometimes.
There are several reasons why magazines ( of any kind) have a tough go once
in a while. Advertising subscriptions ( and BT certainly charges well for
that!) and subscription drops. You could really help out BT and possibly
help it improve it's content by actually supporting it with a subscription.
Another real "magazine killer" is the group ( sounds like your club here)
that buys a magazine or gets a subscription then passes it around for
everyone to read! i fear this is also a problem with books!
I liked "Bonsai Europe" so well that for the second year now I asked members
of the local club if they wanted to get in on a group order. I had several
takers. They get it "brought to them by me" at meetings and get it overall
cheaper than buying it singularly by themselves. The only small
hassle....getting everyones money after they order it, but, that's a slight
problem and the magazine is soooo good.
Regards,
Dale Cochoy

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Jim Lewis 27-06-2003 07:27 PM

[IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines
 
Jim,
I can just see you standing at the magazine rack in Borders

reading the
magazine and trying to decide to buy it! Why don't you

subscribe to the
magazine instead of counting on getting it at the local store

if they aren't
sold out.? Of course, if so, you will have to put up with that

inferior
issue sometimes.


I do not buy more often than I do buy, Dale.


There are several reasons why magazines ( of any kind) have a

tough go once
in a while. Advertising subscriptions ( and BT certainly

charges well for
that!) and subscription drops. You could really help out BT and

possibly
help it improve it's content by actually supporting it with a

subscription.

Don't they get more per issue at news-stand prices? They should
consider the one magaziine in 3 (or so) that I DO buy as a bonus.
;-)

Another real "magazine killer" is the group ( sounds like your

club here)
that buys a magazine or gets a subscription then passes it

around for
everyone to read!


No. We don't subscribe as a club. I don't think ANYone in our
club subscribes any more. Most take BCI's "Bonsai" and of course
we all get the Fla. Bonsai Journal. Some get ABS. I think I'm
the only one that gets International Bonsai, but I may be wrong.
One of the members subscribes to 2 or 3 Japanese bonsai
magazines.

Personally, I'm down to 2 bonsai magazine subscriptions now . . .
BCI's and International Bonsai. That's enough, with the
occasional purchase of BT when they deal with a tree that I like.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase
'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman

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Len Arzoomanian , BonsaiRI 27-06-2003 08:08 PM

[IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines
 
From: dalecochoy
Date: 2003/06/27 Fri PM 01:19:33 EDT To:
Subject: [IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines


I liked "Bonsai Europe" so well that for the second year now I asked members
of the local club if they wanted to get in on a group order. I had several
takers. and the magazine is soooo good.


Sorry about hacking your post down so much but I agree! Bonsai Europe is one of the best bonsai magazines around! I have been picking it up, one copy at a time, at New England Bonsai Garden. I decided not to subscribe and pick up just the issues I liked
and I have picked up everyone they have put out since! I guess I should subscribe! My main reason for liking it so much is that they actually work on trees that are attainable to my budget.

Len

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dalecochoy 13-07-2003 04:32 PM

[IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Iris Cohen"
Subject: [IBC] Those Bonsai Magazines
Several people suggested Bonsai Europe. I haven't seen it in this country,

and
they want $10 for a sample copy.


Iris,
A major part of the expense is shipping. I get several issues for our
lub( no extras) and shipping is a big chunk of it.
I believe Jim Gillespie, Sho Fu En bonsai ( in Pa.) sells them retail. If
you contact him You could probably get him to bring you some copies to
Rochester this Fall so you can check them out. He is a regular there and has
a full business but doesn't do shows.
Also, Ed Meehan carried them in the past.
Regards,
Dale

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