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A question that is asked more out of curiosity than necessity:
Is anyone still saving each month's archives as that month passes? Our archives go back 2 1/2 - 3 years (currently to Oct. 2000), and are added to in monthly increments of between 2 and 3 mb each. Since our archive storage is set at 100 mb, and I like to keep 25 mb open for "emergencies" and a safety net, I am deleting the oldest month about once every 2 months now. I know that someone had stored "old archives" on their home machine and has made them accessible via our website. Are you still adding to them? Herb: You were having someone collect all the old archives; did that occur? I almost never use the archives, so it doesn't really matter to me, but I know that some folks use them regularly. I suppose, to them, it would be nice if _someone_ had them all -- somewhere. The answers are not crucial to anything, but a curious mind simply wants to know. For those who don't know about our archives, you can find them at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/Archives/bonsai.html Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL -- Bonsai List manager ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I know that someone had stored "old archives" on their home
machine and has made them accessible via our website. Are you still adding to them? The "historic" archives appear not to be available at the link we have on our website. Nicolas http://www.bmee.net "A community that excludes even one of its members is no community at all" - Dan Wilkins "You must deal with me as I think of myself" J. Hockenberry ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Jim asked:
Is anyone still saving each month's archives as that month passes? Our archives go back 2 1/2 - 3 years (currently to Oct. 2000), and are added to in monthly increments of between 2 and 3 mb each. Since our archive storage is set at 100 mb, and I like to keep 25 mb open for "emergencies" and a safety net, I am deleting the oldest month about once every 2 months now. I've been searching because I thought these existed somewhere-- perhaps on a mirror site in Europe. Eureka! Google appears to have messages going back to day one for rec.arts.bonsai, & they are searchable/sortable! Try: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ec.arts.bonsai Hit the button to 'search rec.arts.bonsai only'-- that adds "group:rec.arts.bonsai" to the search box when you enter it. After that, I found it helpful to "sort by data" though Google Groups also offfers a "sort by relevance." You can put in a name of t he poster or even the a word used within a posting (not just words from a post's title). There is also an "Advanced Search" for seeking combinations. FWIW, on April 1, 1993, news.announce.newgroups reported that "rec.arts.bonsai is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its vote for creation by 189:22 (source: http://www.landfield.com/software/ft...ec.arts.bonsai). Mike Barto lone posted a proposal for establishment of the r.a.b group on February 1, 1993 (source: http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/...ec.arts.bonsai). Mike noted then, "Currently, discussion of the art of bonsai is c arried out in the BONSAI mailing list, AND in alt.bonsai. This group has, in the 6 months since its creation, been a forum for the discussion of the joys and woes, the art and techniques of growing and maintaining the beautiful dwarfed trees known as bonsa i. Somewhere I picked-up that the alt.bonsai newsgroup began in August 1992, but the earliest posts I could readily locate were by Richard K. Nordin in September 1992. Maybe someone can find when the term "Internet Bonsai Club" replaced the "bonsai mail(ing) list" as a reference. The "tipped tree logo" discussion is probably easily traced. What other discussions carried significance for IBC's history? Cool... :-) Best wishes, Chris... C. Cochrane, , Richmond VA USA ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Chris, thanks for this, I'll see how I can use it.
I don't want to have to manually download and translate all that in a format usable by our new site :-/ Nic "You must deal with me as I think of myself" J. Hockenberry http://bmee.net ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Thanks for that, Chris.
Looks like a cleaner way to review recent posts as well. Bart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Cochrane" To: Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:02 PM Subject: [IBC] ADMIN: Old archives Jim asked: Is anyone still saving each month's archives as that month passes? Our archives go back 2 1/2 - 3 years (currently to Oct. 2000), and are added to in monthly increments of between 2 and 3 mb each. Since our archive storage is set at 100 mb, and I like to keep 25 mb open for "emergencies" and a safety net, I am deleting the oldest month about once every 2 months now. I've been searching because I thought these existed somewhere-- perhaps on a mirror site in Europe. Eureka! Google appears to have messages going back to day one for rec.arts.bonsai, & they are searchable/sortable! Try: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ec.arts.bonsai Hit the button to 'search rec.arts.bonsai only'-- that adds "group:rec.arts.bonsai" to the search box when you enter it. After that, I found it helpful to "sort by data" though Google Groups also offfers a "sort by relevance." You can put in a name of the poster or even the a word used within a posting (not just words from a post's title). There is also an "Advanced Search" for seeking combinations. FWIW, on April 1, 1993, news.announce.newgroups reported that "rec.arts.bonsai is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its vote for creation by 189:22 (source: http://www.landfield.com/software/ft...c/rec.arts.bon sai). Mike Bartolone posted a proposal for establishment of the r.a.b group on February 1, 1993 (source: http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/...ec.arts.bonsai). Mike noted then, "Currently, discussion of the art of bonsai is carried out in the BONSAI mailing list, AND in alt.bonsai. This group has, in the 6 months since its creation, been a forum for the discussion of the joys and woes, the art and techniques of growing and maintaining the beautiful dwarfed trees known as bonsai. Somewhere I picked-up that the alt.bonsai newsgroup began in August 1992, but the earliest posts I could readily locate were by Richard K. Nordin in September 1992. Maybe someone can find when the term "Internet Bonsai Club" replaced the "bonsai mail(ing) list" as a reference. The "tipped tree logo" discussion is probably easily traced. What other discussions carried significance for IBC's history? Cool... :-) Best wishes, Chris... C. Cochrane, , Richmond VA USA ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Maybe someone can find when the term "Internet Bonsai Club" replaced the
"bonsai mail(ing) list" as a reference. The "tipped tree logo" discussion is probably easily traced. What other discussions carried significance for IBC's history? Squirrel stew recipes? David J. Bockman, Fairfax, VA (USDA Hardiness Zone 7) Bunabayashi Bonsai On The World Wide Web: http://www.bunabayashi.com email: ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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"David J. Bockman" wrote:
Maybe someone can find when the term "Internet Bonsai Club" replaced the "bonsai mail(ing) list" as a reference. The "tipped tree logo" discussion is probably easily traced. What other discussions carried significance for IBC's history? Squirrel stew recipes? David J. Bockman, Fairfax, VA (USDA Hardiness Zone 7) Bunabayashi Bonsai On The World Wide Web: http://www.bunabayashi.com email: How about looking up old acquaintances? Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Chris Cochrane wrote:
snip Maybe someone can find when the term "Internet Bonsai Club" replaced the "bonsai mail(ing) list" as a reference. The "tipped tree logo" discussion is probably easily traced. What other discussions carried significance for IBC's history? Cool... :-) Best wishes, Chris... C. Cochrane, , Richmond VA USA Chris: In an idle moment I went back and did a search on this. This is what I came up with. The earliest reference that I could find to "Internet Bonsai Club" was in an email from Mike Bartolone on Dec. 133, 1994 wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Then I found this interesting post from July 24, 1995 in an apparent discussion about the possibility of a paper newsletter for the IBC (!): +++++++++++++++++++++++++ In article Bob writes: After reading the posts on organizing this group I must confess that I feel a little perturbed. In my opinion part of the beauty and power of this medium is the ability for anyone to gain access immediately and for free. All of the listed benefits can be gained by anyone by joining one of the organized bonsai groups. Maybe I'm not seeing the big picture but my two cents says if it isn't broken don't try to fix it! I tend to agree with you. The Internet Bonsai Club is really just a nifty label Dan Cw started on the bonsai web page site at WSU for lack of nothing else to call the W3 site and this newsgroup. But when enough people take a label like the 'Internet Bonsai Club' seriously and even publish it in good ole fashioned paper form in order to give none computer bonsai-ers a more tangible concept to grasp...the idea kind of sticks around. I don't see any reason why the Internet Bonsai Club can't still grow in free form. Other Bonsai web sites are starting to sprout. Perhaps even BCI and ABS will have homepages of their own in the future and hence become part of the Internet Bonsai Club just by existing on the Internet. But the idea of how to identify Bonsai Internetters at bonsai functions in the real world still fascinates many of us. Some of us (like me), still prefer to remain anonymous at real world events. Best regards, Geoline Havener-Memphis Bonsai Society Editor ++++++++++++++++++++++ Being interested in history I always enjoy going back to primary sources, so this was fun, considering I don't recognize the names of these early people. Out of curiosity, who on the list was involved at this early stage? I saw a post from Iris Cohen fro m sometime in 1995. Anyone else? Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Being interested in history I always enjoy going back to primary sources, so this was fun, considering I don't recognize the names of these early people. Out of curiosity, who on the list was involved at this early stage? I saw a post from Iris Cohen from sometime in 1995. Anyone else? Craig Cowing It was very amusing to discover that Geoline was such a shrinking violet! I remember, back in 1995, when I'd get a whopping total of 10-12 emails a day from the IBC. I had to ask someone what "LOL" meant. Does the online archive go back that far? I'd love to find that poem in Swedish that Bonsamurai wrote about me and squirrels Nina Shishkoff ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Nina Shishkoff wrote:
.... Does the online archive go back that far? I'd love to find that poem in Swedish that Bonsamurai wrote about me and squirrels Dearest Nina - from Anita's personal excessively large archive! The bonsamurai rides again.. how is the ol' Swede doing, one wonders? He wrote this limerick back in '98: It works in Swedish :-) Hon är makalös, Nina Shishkoff Fyller IBC med vettigt stoff Hon är trivsam och snäll, Säger aldrig: "Go to Hell!" Men om någon pratar ekorrar: TJOFF! [She's amazing, Nina Shishkoff Fills the IBC w/ no-nonsense stuff She's nice and nice She never tells you to go to Hell But if you talk of squirrels: SMACK!] Anita ----- Northern Harford County, Maryland, USDA zone 6 Go forth under the open sky, and list To Nature's teachings. - William Cullen Bryant ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Dearest Nina - from Anita's personal excessively large archive!
The bonsamurai rides again.. how is the ol' Swede doing, one wonders? I heard from him at Christmas, I think. He's doing well, and he lurks here sometimes, as does Geoline. I haven't heard from Dan Cw. in a long time. Of course I still miss Hud Nordin and the Haikumatic. And if anyone wonders where Phil "life is a blur of meat and Republicans" Stevens is, he's in China, where he's seeing some wonderful Penjing. Nina, an oooooold timer. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Dearest Nina - from Anita's personal excessively large
archive! The bonsamurai rides again.. how is the ol' Swede doing, one wonders? I heard from him at Christmas, I think. He's doing well, and he lurks here sometimes, as does Geoline. I haven't heard from Dan Cw. in a long time. Of course I still miss Hud Nordin and the Haikumatic. And if anyone wonders where Phil "life is a blur of meat and Republicans" Stevens is, he's in China, where he's seeing some wonderful Penjing. Nina, an oooooold timer. I had occasion to Google for my oldest post to the group the other day: May 23, 1994 (it was an introduction and blather about using native trees for bonsai). That was pre-IBC. Dan Cw isn't Cw any more. Anyone recall the new moniker he (legally) changed it to? Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - "People, when Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and berries. And I'm right here to tell you the berries are just about all gone." -- Uncle Dave Macon, old-time musician ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Does the online archive go back that far? I'd love to find that poem in Swedish that Bonsamurai wrote about me and squirrels You've got the poem, now, of course, but you can Google on "Google groups" and choose the advanced search on rec.arts.bonsai and go all the way back. I haven't tried to go back to (since I wasn't there then ;-) In The Beginning. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - "People, when Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and berries. And I'm right here to tell you the berries are just about all gone." -- Uncle Dave Macon, old-time musician ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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The only poster now reaching back to the beginning of the list (April 1993)
is Kitsune Miko (formerly SandyV). Posting in May 1994, I think you are next oldest, Jim. It appears that Roger Case posted first in September, Iris in November & Nina in December 1994. Best wishes, Chris... C.Cochrane, , Richmond VA ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Jim Lewis wrote:
Dan Cw isn't Cw any more. Anyone recall the new moniker he (legally) changed it to? Eklund. And, his current (I think) home page has not a thing about bonsai on it! A pity - he deserves some kudos for helping birth this happy moster ;) www.ucomm.wayne.edu/~dan/ Anita Northern Harford County, Maryland, USDA zone 6 Go forth under the open sky, and list To Nature's teachings. - William Cullen Bryant ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Out of curiosity, who on the list was involved at
this early stage? I saw a post from Iris Cohen from sometime in 1995. Anyone else? Craig Cowing ----------------------------- I think I was lurking late in '95, talking in '96, and have to say it made a lot of changes in the way I was dispensing my time and money. I do think occasionally of those days - of Dan and Hud and the Haikumatic, Phil, Goeline, Sandy, Bonsaimura in Sweden and others occasionally are recalled by some advice they gave that stayed with me. My first convention was in l996, an ABS event. Seems to me a surprising number of old-timers still here really. I wonder what all that proves - we love bonsai, we like bonsai people, or have fallen into a habit. :) Lynn ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Chris:
I can't find my own early postings, but I do have one on file that I sent in mid-1996. An enterprising soul could edit the archives into a quite interesting, entertaining and educational book. Lots of joy, tears, laughter, sorrow, as well as quips and haiku, bonsai myths and bonsai facts, (the last two are interchangeable,) and enough educational material to warrant a degree for those who read through it all. The contributors read like a who's who of international bonsai. I am privileged to be part of this group. Now if only we could get a few Japanese and Chinese bonsai enthusiasts to join us and share their perspectives with us. Cheers. Peter Aradi Tulsa, Oklahoma ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I just checked and my first post was in early July 1994, although I lurked
for several months before that. Marty -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of Chris Cochrane Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:45 AM To: Subject: [IBC] ADMIN: Old archives The only poster now reaching back to the beginning of the list (April 1993) is Kitsune Miko (formerly SandyV). Posting in May 1994, I think you are next oldest, Jim. It appears that Roger Case posted first in September, Iris in November & Nina in December 1994. Best wishes, Chris... C.Cochrane, , Richmond VA ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Marty:
You made me do it! My archives go back to May 1995. I found a posting from June 1995, but I am certain that I made a few before that. If your archives go back further could you check for my first one? You aroused my interest. Cheers. Peter Aradi Tulsa, Oklahoma ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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At 01:26 PM 8/22/03 -0700, you wrote:
Out of curiosity, who on the list was involved at this early stage? I saw a post from Iris Cohen from sometime in 1995. Anyone else? Craig Cowing ----------------------------- I think I was lurking late in '95, talking in '96, and have to say it made a lot of changes in the way I was dispensing my time and money. I do think occasionally of those days - of Dan and Hud and the Haikumatic, Phil, Goeline, Sandy, Bonsaimura in Sweden and others occasionally are recalled by some advice they gave that stayed with me. My first convention was in l996, an ABS event. Seems to me a surprising number of old-timers still here really. I wonder what all that proves - we love bonsai, we like bonsai people, or have fallen into a habit. :) Lynn Lynn How the time passes. The earliest post that I saved dated back to 2/96. I believe I started in late 1995. Brent in Northern California Evergreen Gardenworks USDA Zone 8 Sunset Zone 14 http://www.EvergreenGardenworks.com ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Hi Peter. Hi Marty.
First, my apology to Marty for not catching his early posts. You posted frequently and thoughtfully! I think Marty was in NM at the time of early posts (the Albuquerque Club president, there) & I picked-up 'Marty & Patti' posts from Oregon when doing a q uick-search. Your first post, Peter, seems to be responding to a request to form the North American Viewing Stone Society on February 4, 1995 (I'll send it privately). Posting later the same month, I recall this thread while lurking on the rec.arts.bonsai newsgroup. You were involved in a thread of 34 posts in July 1995 entitled "Internet Bonsai" that was a fascinating read for me because of the cast of respondents. It began when Marty Weiser responded to webmaster Dan Cwiertniewics: "I would vote for the internet g roup (internet bonsai club - IBC?) continuing as a group that is separate from BCI and ABS..." Here is how to find your own posts. First go to (I bookmarked this): http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...c.arts.bonsai. This page includes latest posts and is searchable. Here, highlight the target button beside "search only in rec.arts.bonsai" and then request "Advanced Search" at the top of the page. If you changed providers or signed in with a different tag, you need to capture the correctly spelled name tag or URL address to find all your posts-- but most folks don't change these often. For example, JackSprat's posts couldn't be found searching for the author "Jack Sprat"-- note there could be posts under each name as well as posts that only are linked by author under an email address... :-) Under "Advanced Group Search," make sure "rec.arts.bonsai" is the only group searched. You will want to sort 'by date' rather than 'by relevance'. Then, throw in the search dates you are interested in covering. The rec.arts.bonsai list goes back to Apr il 1993. A mail list and alt.bonsai newsgroup go back to as early as August 1992 but are not captured here. Hope this helps. Best wishes, Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "p.aradi" To: "Chris Cochrane" ; Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:09 PM Subject: [IBC] ADMIN: Old archives Chris: I can't find my own early postings, but I do have one on file that I sent in mid-1996. An enterprising soul could edit the archives into a quite interesting, entertaining and educational book. Lots of joy, tears, laughter, sorrow, as well as quips and haiku, bonsai myths and bonsai facts, (the last two are interchangeable,) and enough educational material to warrant a degree for those who read through it all. The contributors read like a who's who of international bonsai. I am privileged to be part of this group. Now if only we could get a few Japanese and Chinese bonsai enthusiasts to join us and share their perspectives with us. Cheers. Peter Aradi Tulsa, Oklahoma ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Marty:
You made me do it! My archives go back to May 1995. I found a posting from June 1995, but I am certain that I made a few before that. If your archives go back further could you check for my first one? You aroused my interest. Of course, Chris will "tell all" in his "A Very Brief History of the IBC" that he is working so diligently on for our web site. ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I just hope Chris will leave out some of the posts that I am not
particularly proud of. I am sure most of us have a couple of those that have now been saved for posterity. Marty -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of Jim Lewis Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:20 AM To: Subject: [IBC] ADMIN: Old archives Marty: You made me do it! My archives go back to May 1995. I found a posting from June 1995, but I am certain that I made a few before that. If your archives go back further could you check for my first one? You aroused my interest. Of course, Chris will "tell all" in his "A Very Brief History of the IBC" that he is working so diligently on for our web site. ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I agree. The IBC is a kinder gentler place now that the frontier has bee
tamed. We went where no one had gone before and fell down a lot. Kitsune Miko at 04:20 PM 8/23/2003 -0700, MartyWeiser wrote: I just hope Chris will leave out some of the posts that I am not particularly proud of. I am sure most of us have a couple of those that have now been saved for posterity. Marty -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of Jim Lewis Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:20 AM To: Subject: [IBC] ADMIN: Old archives Marty: You made me do it! My archives go back to May 1995. I found a posting from June 1995, but I am certain that I made a few before that. If your archives go back further could you check for my first one? You aroused my interest. Of course, Chris will "tell all" in his "A Very Brief History of the IBC" that he is working so diligently on for our web site. ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman ************************************************* *************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************* *************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************* ******************************* ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************* ******************************* -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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We have, though, lost some of that "community" feeling we used to
have. But then, the whole damned world has lost it too. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Note: I SNIPPED! I agree. The IBC is a kinder gentler place now that the frontier has bee tamed. We went where no one had gone before and fell down a lot. Kitsune Miko at 04:20 PM 8/23/2003 -0700, MartyWeiser wrote: I just hope Chris will leave out some of the posts that I am not particularly proud of. I am sure most of us have a couple of those that have now been saved for posterity. Marty You made me do it! My archives go back to May 1995. I found a posting from June 1995, but I am certain that I made a few before that. If your archives go back further could you check for my first one? You aroused my interest. Of course, Chris will "tell all" in his "A Very Brief History of the IBC" that he is working so diligently on for our web site. ;-) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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"Kitsune Miko" wrote in message .yahoo.com... I agree. The IBC is a kinder gentler place now that the frontier has bee tamed. We went where no one had gone before and fell down a lot. Kitsune Miko "We went where no one had gone before and fell down a lot" What a great line! I love it!!! This made my day. Thanks for this gem, Jay Wilson |
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(April 1993) is Kitsune Miko (formerly SandyV). Posting in May 1994, I think you are next oldest, Jim. It appears that Roger Case posted first in September, Iris in November & Nina in December 1994. Rick Choate (rickbonsai from S'most Texas) thinks he was on and posting a bit before me, maybe into 1993. He's still here, but as a "digest" lurker and infrequent writer. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Dale Cochoy++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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