[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

IBC Members -- FYI

Hello,

The Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection is sponsoring an art competition for
this years special exhibit entitled, "Elevations". The Collection is
seeking artists to create a work of sculpture - that will serve as a
display stand or pedestal - that will enhance the visual and emotional
impact of selected bonsai. The artwork will interact with the bonsai in
relation to its spatial dimensions, overall visual mass, movement and
character. The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.

The Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection will produce an exhibit of trees
selected from our permanent collection that will be displayed on
original design stands and pedestals that have been created to interact
with a specific tree. Ten designs will be chosen by a jury panel for
inclusion in this exhibit. The exhibition will last from August 13
through September 29, 2004.

Please email me for a prospectus and hope that you might share it with
members of your club, more detailed information is available on our
website at http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/bonsai. (Click hours and
events, Call to Artists, then click in the Example paragraph...). If
you have any question please contact me by email:
or phone 800-525-5440 ext. 3153.

Sincerely,
Adina Lake
Program Assistant Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection
253-924-3153


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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

IBC Members -- FYI

Hello,

The Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection is sponsoring an art
competition for
this years special exhibit entitled, "Elevations". The
Collection is
seeking artists to create a work of sculpture - that will serve
as a
display stand or pedestal - that will enhance the visual and
emotional
impact of selected bonsai. The artwork will interact with the
bonsai in
relation to its spatial dimensions, overall visual mass,
movement and
character. The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") -- subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

IBC Members -- FYI

Hello,

The Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection is sponsoring an art
competition for
this years special exhibit entitled, "Elevations". The
Collection is
seeking artists to create a work of sculpture - that will serve
as a
display stand or pedestal - that will enhance the visual and
emotional
impact of selected bonsai. The artwork will interact with the
bonsai in
relation to its spatial dimensions, overall visual mass,
movement and
character. The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") -- subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

IBC Members -- FYI

Hello,

The Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection is sponsoring an art
competition for
this years special exhibit entitled, "Elevations". The
Collection is
seeking artists to create a work of sculpture - that will serve
as a
display stand or pedestal - that will enhance the visual and
emotional
impact of selected bonsai. The artwork will interact with the
bonsai in
relation to its spatial dimensions, overall visual mass,
movement and
character. The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") -- subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

IBC Members -- FYI

Hello,

The Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection is sponsoring an art
competition for
this years special exhibit entitled, "Elevations". The
Collection is
seeking artists to create a work of sculpture - that will serve
as a
display stand or pedestal - that will enhance the visual and
emotional
impact of selected bonsai. The artwork will interact with the
bonsai in
relation to its spatial dimensions, overall visual mass,
movement and
character. The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") -- subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

IBC Members -- FYI

Hello,

The Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection is sponsoring an art
competition for
this years special exhibit entitled, "Elevations". The
Collection is
seeking artists to create a work of sculpture - that will serve
as a
display stand or pedestal - that will enhance the visual and
emotional
impact of selected bonsai. The artwork will interact with the
bonsai in
relation to its spatial dimensions, overall visual mass,
movement and
character. The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") -- subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") -- subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this isn't any different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even enter the contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") -- subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this isn't any different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even enter the contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") -- subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this isn't any different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even enter the contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") -- subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this isn't any different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even enter the contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that
interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a
dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would
take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance
the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") --
subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to
be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a
work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to
serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only
where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape
and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect
it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this
isn't any different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even
enter the contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

Hmph. And TRIPLE Pfooie!

Sculpture is a FINE art. Pots ain't. Pots are a CRAFT and a
damned fine one, but pots are made specifically to put something
IN (even though for many, because of their beauty, nothing ever
gets put in them (and I wonder how the pot feels about _this_ --
not living up to its "life's" duty). Sculpture is NOT made to be
a pedestal. In fact, much sculpture itself sits upon a pedestal.

Anyway, there's a heckuva big difference between sculpture and
pottery, and this is advertised as a SCULPTURE competition, when
it should have been touted as a designing a stand competition
(another honorable CRAFT).

Enter if you wish, but, like a daiza isn't ART, neither is this!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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[IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists
 

Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that
interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a
dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would
take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance
the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") --
subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to
be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a
work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to
serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only
where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape
and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect
it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this
isn't any different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even
enter the contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

Hmph. And TRIPLE Pfooie!

Sculpture is a FINE art. Pots ain't. Pots are a CRAFT and a
damned fine one, but pots are made specifically to put something
IN (even though for many, because of their beauty, nothing ever
gets put in them (and I wonder how the pot feels about _this_ --
not living up to its "life's" duty). Sculpture is NOT made to be
a pedestal. In fact, much sculpture itself sits upon a pedestal.

Anyway, there's a heckuva big difference between sculpture and
pottery, and this is advertised as a SCULPTURE competition, when
it should have been touted as a designing a stand competition
(another honorable CRAFT).

Enter if you wish, but, like a daiza isn't ART, neither is this!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that
interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.


Hmm.

As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- though one who
hasn't sculpted for a while (and who is off judging a
dressage
show so isn't here to speak for herself) -- I think I would
take
exception to calling a stand for a bonsai a "sculpture," much
less a work of art. A stand is -- by definition ("enhance
the
visual and emotional impact OF SELECTED BONSAI") --
subservient
to that which sits upon it. A work of art which CHOOSES to
be
subservient is no more than a decoration, if that.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a
work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

It would be like asking for a painting as a work of art to
serve
as the "background" for a bonsai.

Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only
where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape
and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect
it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this
isn't any different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even
enter the contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

Hmph. And TRIPLE Pfooie!

Sculpture is a FINE art. Pots ain't. Pots are a CRAFT and a
damned fine one, but pots are made specifically to put something
IN (even though for many, because of their beauty, nothing ever
gets put in them (and I wonder how the pot feels about _this_ --
not living up to its "life's" duty). Sculpture is NOT made to be
a pedestal. In fact, much sculpture itself sits upon a pedestal.

Anyway, there's a heckuva big difference between sculpture and
pottery, and this is advertised as a SCULPTURE competition, when
it should have been touted as a designing a stand competition
(another honorable CRAFT).

Enter if you wish, but, like a daiza isn't ART, neither is this!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Cowing" Subject: [IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call
to Artists


Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.

Hmm.
As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - -


Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this isn't any
different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even enter the
contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

I think this is interesting and might have even decided to try making
something of a display with ceramics or even ceramics & wood combo,( since
I didn't get in on the Bonsai InSites thing,) but, NOT with a little less
than a month for a deadline! ( I didn't notice anywhere when this was
originally posted). I'm always open to something "off the wall"
Regards,
Dale Cochoy

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Cowing" Subject: [IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call
to Artists


Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.

Hmm.
As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - -


Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this isn't any
different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even enter the
contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

I think this is interesting and might have even decided to try making
something of a display with ceramics or even ceramics & wood combo,( since
I didn't get in on the Bonsai InSites thing,) but, NOT with a little less
than a month for a deadline! ( I didn't notice anywhere when this was
originally posted). I'm always open to something "off the wall"
Regards,
Dale Cochoy

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Cowing" Subject: [IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call
to Artists


Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.

Hmm.
As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - -


Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this isn't any
different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even enter the
contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

I think this is interesting and might have even decided to try making
something of a display with ceramics or even ceramics & wood combo,( since
I didn't get in on the Bonsai InSites thing,) but, NOT with a little less
than a month for a deadline! ( I didn't notice anywhere when this was
originally posted). I'm always open to something "off the wall"
Regards,
Dale Cochoy

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Enter if you wish, but, like a daiza isn't ART, neither is this!


Jim, THAT'S gonna get you some emails!! :)
Dale

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Enter if you wish, but, like a daiza isn't ART, neither is this!


Jim, THAT'S gonna get you some emails!! :)
Dale

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Subject: [IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists

Enter if you wish, but, like a daiza isn't ART, neither is this!


Jim, THAT'S gonna get you some emails!! :)
Dale

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to Artists


Jim Lewis wrote:

snip

The display stands/pedestals may be of traditional
design,
but special consideration will be given to those that interact
with the
bonsai in novel and imaginative ways.

Hmm.
As the husband of an award-winning sculptor -- Pfooie!

Jim Lewis - -


Ah, out comes the curmudgeon from his hiding place! Jim, this isn't any
different
than pot competitions. I think it's a great idea. I may even enter the
contest.
So, double Pfooie!! ;0}

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

I think this is interesting and might have even decided to try making
something of a display with ceramics or even ceramics & wood combo,( since
I didn't get in on the Bonsai InSites thing,) but, NOT with a little less
than a month for a deadline! ( I didn't notice anywhere when this was
originally posted). I'm always open to something "off the wall"
Regards,
Dale Cochoy

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Subject: [IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists

Enter if you wish, but, like a daiza isn't ART, neither is this!


Jim, THAT'S gonna get you some emails!! :)
Dale

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Subject: [IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to
Artists

Enter if you wish, but, like a daiza isn't ART, neither is
this!


Jim, THAT'S gonna get you some emails!! :)
Dale

Well, not yet, but as Andy noted to me -- offlist -- the extent
to which bonsai is an art is . . . so, at least partially,
because the tree/pot/stand/etc... harmonize for a cohesive
(single) image. This business of working to make one of those
elements
conspicuous only occurs at the expense of the overall display. .
.. . In other words, making any part of the composition
conspicuous makes, by definition, the "composition" fall apart
and become a ridiculous mess.

If Pac. Rim want to highlight stand or pot art, they need to do
so outside of the realm of bonsai.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Subject: [IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to
Artists

Enter if you wish, but, like a daiza isn't ART, neither is
this!


Jim, THAT'S gonna get you some emails!! :)
Dale

Well, not yet, but as Andy noted to me -- offlist -- the extent
to which bonsai is an art is . . . so, at least partially,
because the tree/pot/stand/etc... harmonize for a cohesive
(single) image. This business of working to make one of those
elements
conspicuous only occurs at the expense of the overall display. .
.. . In other words, making any part of the composition
conspicuous makes, by definition, the "composition" fall apart
and become a ridiculous mess.

If Pac. Rim want to highlight stand or pot art, they need to do
so outside of the realm of bonsai.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Such a dither!! What Andy says is correct. But any assumption
that a competition that focuses on one part of display will result in "a
ridiculous mess" also assumes that the jury will not appreciate the need
for harmony in composition. 'Tain't necessarily so.
Bonsai stands can enhance or ruin a bonsai display. I seem to
recall that the announcement mentioned that the stands would be matched
to specific bonsai, so the artist who enters should realize the need for
compositional harmony, if they hope to win. I'm sure there will be a
few ridiculous messes, but what's the harm?
I don't see how bonsai is threatened by events like these.
Mostly the traditional styles are superior, but occasionally someone
manages to come up with a novel idea which will eventually become one of
the "traditional" styles. Such scolding stifles creativity and sucks
the fun out of bonsai. No wonder we're such a geriatric group on the
whole!
Alan Walker
http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lewis
Enter if you wish, but, like a daiza isn't ART, neither is this!
Jim, THAT'S gonna get you some emails!! :)
Dale
Well, not yet, but as Andy noted to me -- offlist -- the extent
to which bonsai is an art is . . . so, at least partially, because the
tree/pot/stand/etc... harmonize for a cohesive (single) image. This
business of working to make one of those elements conspicuous only
occurs at the expense of the overall display. .
.. . In other words, making any part of the composition conspicuous
makes, by definition, the "composition" fall apart and become a
ridiculous mess.
If Pac. Rim wants to highlight stand or pot art, they need to do
so outside of the realm of bonsai.
Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL

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Such a dither!!

I dunno. Someone has to get excited about something here.

snip


I don't see how bonsai is threatened by events like these.
Mostly the traditional styles are superior, but occasionally
someone
manages to come up with a novel idea which will eventually
become one of
the "traditional" styles. Such scolding stifles creativity and
sucks
the fun out of bonsai. No wonder we're such a geriatric group
on the
whole!

Oh, bonsai isn't "threatened."

It may not be advanced much, though.

MY point was (and is) that to call these "art" is a bit silly. I
can't imagine a real sculptor having a go.

I'm often wrong, though.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Apples and
Oranges: A Demonstration -- Welcome to Hooterville! Population:
2000. Elevation: 3000. Established: 1850. TOTAL = 6850 -- Bob
Lilienfield

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Alan Walker wrote:

Such a dither!!

snip

I don't see how bonsai is threatened by events like these.
Mostly the traditional styles are superior, but occasionally someone
manages to come up with a novel idea which will eventually become one of
the "traditional" styles. Such scolding stifles creativity and sucks
the fun out of bonsai. No wonder we're such a geriatric group on the
whole!
Alan Walker

The only thing that is threatened by events such as these is a closed mind.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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(Jim Lewis) writes:
I think I would take exception to calling a stand for a bonsai
a
"sculpture," much less a work of art.

I agree to a point.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a
work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

I think the rigidity of thinking that one piece of the whole is
subservient to the other would be saying that those folks who
create
beautiful bonsai pots are not in fact artists/sculptures.


Well, though I agree we've dithered more on this topic than it
might deserve, in fact, they are not. And there is absolutely
NOTHING wrong with that. Pottery/ceramics is an ancient and
honorable CRAFT, older by far than most of the so-called arts and
"fine arts." Those who do it (well) are artisans or
craftspersons.

I haven't heard of any potters trying to get their efforts
"elevated" into one of the arts. Potters that I know are
perfectly happy to be known as master craftsmen and women. (One
of the benefits of being a master craftsman, is that living
artisans actually can MAKE a living at it; that's often not so in
"The Arts.")


A tree in a plastic pot can be beautiful can be nice looking.
A nice (empty) bonsai pot, can be a thing of beauty.

But the same tree, presented in that beautiful pot (assuming
they go
together) can be fantastic.

In the same way, the potted tree, presented on a fantastic
stand, will
join to be a greater thing of beauty.


Very true. BUT the pot, and the stand are there to SERVE the
tree, which is their reason for being.

But . . .


If i were the sculpture of the stand, i would need to see the
tree to
make decisions on proportion, design, flow, etc.... (sounds
like that
is their intent:

That relegates sculpture to a craft. I doubt that Michaelangelo
or Rodin, or Calder (???) would have subjected themselves to the
dictates of some other (lesser, perhaps, in their minds) art.



The Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection will produce an exhibit of
trees
selected from our permanent collection that will be displayed
on
original design stands and pedestals that have been created to
interact
with a specific tree.

I think the idea is to create a piece of work that is
synergistic with
the bonsai... so that the combination of the bonsai and the
stand
become a new single entity to be appreciated. Think of it as a
collaboration of the bonsai, pot, and stand sculptors.

That makes it like a lichen, part algae and part fungus, and
really neither. Or a mule -- which (usually) is sterile.
"Neither fish nor flesh nor good red herring." (John Heywood ca.
1500s, sometime)


Perhaps i've misunderstood your specific problem jim?


Perhaps -- or maybe it's just me.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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(Jim Lewis) writes:
I think I would take exception to calling a stand for a bonsai
a
"sculpture," much less a work of art.

I agree to a point.

A sculpture should be _at least_ the equal to a bonsai as a
work
of art, not something for another work of art to squat upon.

I think the rigidity of thinking that one piece of the whole is
subservient to the other would be saying that those folks who
create
beautiful bonsai pots are not in fact artists/sculptures.


Well, though I agree we've dithered more on this topic than it
might deserve, in fact, they are not. And there is absolutely
NOTHING wrong with that. Pottery/ceramics is an ancient and
honorable CRAFT, older by far than most of the so-called arts and
"fine arts." Those who do it (well) are artisans or
craftspersons.

I haven't heard of any potters trying to get their efforts
"elevated" into one of the arts. Potters that I know are
perfectly happy to be known as master craftsmen and women. (One
of the benefits of being a master craftsman, is that living
artisans actually can MAKE a living at it; that's often not so in
"The Arts.")


A tree in a plastic pot can be beautiful can be nice looking.
A nice (empty) bonsai pot, can be a thing of beauty.

But the same tree, presented in that beautiful pot (assuming
they go
together) can be fantastic.

In the same way, the potted tree, presented on a fantastic
stand, will
join to be a greater thing of beauty.


Very true. BUT the pot, and the stand are there to SERVE the
tree, which is their reason for being.

But . . .


If i were the sculpture of the stand, i would need to see the
tree to
make decisions on proportion, design, flow, etc.... (sounds
like that
is their intent:

That relegates sculpture to a craft. I doubt that Michaelangelo
or Rodin, or Calder (???) would have subjected themselves to the
dictates of some other (lesser, perhaps, in their minds) art.



The Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection will produce an exhibit of
trees
selected from our permanent collection that will be displayed
on
original design stands and pedestals that have been created to
interact
with a specific tree.

I think the idea is to create a piece of work that is
synergistic with
the bonsai... so that the combination of the bonsai and the
stand
become a new single entity to be appreciated. Think of it as a
collaboration of the bonsai, pot, and stand sculptors.

That makes it like a lichen, part algae and part fungus, and
really neither. Or a mule -- which (usually) is sterile.
"Neither fish nor flesh nor good red herring." (John Heywood ca.
1500s, sometime)


Perhaps i've misunderstood your specific problem jim?


Perhaps -- or maybe it's just me.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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To:
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:19 PM
Subject: [IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists


Perhaps -- or maybe it's just me.
..
Yes, Jim ... or maybe it's just you.
Marty

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To:
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:19 PM
Subject: [IBC] Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection Call to Artists


Perhaps -- or maybe it's just me.
..
Yes, Jim ... or maybe it's just you.
Marty

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