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[IBC] Tree Trunk Question
Hi everybody,
as i'm from Germany I will get directly to the problem. I have a new seedling (I think you know what I mean), which is of chinese elm kind. Now I wanted to know, whether the trunk is continuous or dissolving. Excuse me if my English, as it's a very special problem, isn't that correct... Bye Maybe one of our German speakers can help, so try a question in German. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Tree Trunk Question
Wolle: I am not familiar with the terms you are using, "continuous or
dissolving." However, the natural growing habit of the Chinese elm (and most other elms) is what we call in bonsai the broom or besom style. That is an upright trunk which then spreads into a multitude of upward spreading of branches. This resembles an inverted broom, hence the term broom style. The Japanese name for this style is hooki-zukuri. For directions on how to create this style, consult John Naka's Bonsai Techniques I, pp. 137-139. Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Wolfram Kretzschmar Hi everybody, As I'm from Germany I will get directly to the problem. I have a new seedling (I think you know what I mean), which is of chinese elm kind. Now I wanted to know, whether the trunk is continuous or dissolving. Excuse me if my English, as it's a very special problem, isn't that correct... Bye Wolle ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Tree Trunk Question
In a message dated 6/5/04 6:55:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
writes: Sorry, I don't understand you I think what he means is ... Should the trunk go in a continuous line to the apex or should the main trunk split into branching (ramification) as in a broom style? ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Tree Trunk Question
In a message dated 6/5/2004 7:16:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes: Hi everybody, As I'm from Germany I will get directly to the problem. I have a new seedling (I think you know what I mean), which is of chinese elm kind. Now I wanted to know, whether the trunk is continuous or dissolving. Excuse me if my English, as it's a very special problem, isn't that correct... Bye Wolle Wolle: Haben sie eine photographie des baumes? Vielen Dank, Michael Persiano http://members.aol.com/iasnob ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Tree Trunk Question
In a message dated 6/6/2004 2:55:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
writes: I wanted to ask, whether the trunk grows continuously upwards (develops arm/branch that grows straight upwards), Elms do this very well. Billy on the Florida Space Coast BSF Annual Convention July 1 - 4, 2005 Radisson Hotel, Cape Canaveral, Florida Workshops with Jerry Meislek of Whitefish, Montana and Chase Rosade of New Hope, PA. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Tree Trunk Question
Hi all,
Look at this, please. I think, you got, what I ment. http://www.anzwers.org/free/onkelwolle/ Bye Wolle |
[IBC] Tree Trunk Question
Yes, I was only listening with my third ear (trying to work out a problem),
but according to David DeGroot there are two types of tree branch characteristics. Some trees have continuous and others dissolving. Julie in article , Wolfram Kretzschmar at wrote on 6/6/04 4:22 PM: Hi all, Look at this, please. I think, you got, what I ment. http://www.anzwers.org/free/onkelwolle/ Bye Wolle |
[IBC] Tree Trunk Question
OK but looking at the pictures posted by Wolfram, That is something you
decide when it comes to bonsai. We have something that mother nature have not, wire. If you want a leader on a tree with "dissolving" trunk you just wire a shot up. Henrik Gistvall, Uppsala, Sweden Julie Trigg wrote: Yes, I was only listening with my third ear (trying to work out a problem), but according to David DeGroot there are two types of tree branch characteristics. Some trees have continuous and others dissolving. Julie in article , Wolfram Kretzschmar at wrote on 6/6/04 4:22 PM: Hi all, Look at this, please. I think, you got, what I ment. http://www.anzwers.org/free/onkelwolle/ Bye Wolle ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Tree Trunk Question
But I think the point is, that is a distinct characteristic of some trees.
Julie in article , Henrik Gistvall at wrote on 6/7/04 3:39 AM: OK but looking at the pictures posted by Wolfram, That is something you decide when it comes to bonsai. We have something that mother nature have not, wire. If you want a leader on a tree with "dissolving" trunk you just wire a shot up. Henrik Gistvall, Uppsala, Sweden Julie Trigg wrote: Yes, I was only listening with my third ear (trying to work out a problem), but according to David DeGroot there are two types of tree branch characteristics. Some trees have continuous and others dissolving. Julie in article , Wolfram Kretzschmar at wrote on 6/6/04 4:22 PM: Hi all, Look at this, please. I think, you got, what I ment. http://www.anzwers.org/free/onkelwolle/ Bye Wolle ************************************************** *************************** *** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** *************************** *** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** **************************** ** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** **************************** ** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Tree Trunk Question
Hi all,
But I think the point is, that is a distinct characteristic of some trees. At this point you've understood, what I wanted to know, whether chinese elms are of the one or the other type. I know, that I have still some time to think about in which shape I want cut and wire it. But there are some rules given by nature, which you can break easily (by the means of wire e.g.), but you shouldn't imho. And I wont. Neither will you shape your bonsai like a horse I think... Bye for now Wolle |
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