Hi,

I thought it might be a good idea to start a bonsai wikiwiki to share
information and write articles. For a good example of wikiwiki, please
take a look at wikipedia, an open content encyclopedia written by the
community. A wikiwiki is a website where everybody can write articles
and edit them.

http://wikipedia.org

There is also a page on bonsai in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonsai

Unfortunately I don't have space to start a wiki. Maybe someone can host
a bonsaiwiki?

Greetings,
Wouter

A wikiwiki is a website where everybody can write articles
and edit them.

That is essentially what this is. There are limits. If you have a big paint pot
and everyone is invited to put in a color, the result is gray.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

Iris Cohen wrote:
A wikiwiki is a website where everybody can write articles
and edit them.

That is essentially what this is. There are limits. If you have a big paint pot
and everyone is invited to put in a color, the result is gray.

It's not the same, because these are postings with questions and maybe
some advice. On a wiki articles are written. Also postings to this
newsgroup get erased after some time and a wiki is like a book and the
information stays in it.
I could buy a book, but I'm more for the free stuff...

Greetings,
Wouter

It's not the same, because these are postings with questions
and maybe
some advice. On a wiki articles are written. Also postings to
this
newsgroup get erased after some time and a wiki is like a book
and the
information stays in it.
I could buy a book, but I'm more for the free stuff...

Greetings,
Wouter


And every idiot who THINKS he or she knows something about bonsai
can contribute to one of these silly-named things, thus
perpetuating errors for as long as the stuff stays up.

There already are more bonsai articles -- good AND bad -- on the
web than anyone can possibly read. Try:

1. www.internetbonsaiclub.org (go to "Knowledge Base")
2. www.evergreengardenworks.com
3. www.bonsai-bci.com
4. www.absbonsai.org
5. www.bonsai-bsf.com

for lots of good FREE info on bonsai (though you still will get
better, and more consistently reliable, info by not being so
cheap and buying a few good books).

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Blessed
statistics: A Demonstration -- Welcome to Hooterville!
Population: 2000. Elevation: 3000. Established: 1850. TOTAL =
6850

Jim Lewis wrote:
And every idiot who THINKS he or she knows something about bonsai
can contribute to one of these silly-named things, thus
perpetuating errors for as long as the stuff stays up.

Sure, but those errors are easily corrected. Just take a look at
wikipedia. It works out great.
I also visit http://senseis.xmp.net which is a wiki for the game of Go.
Even though some people post wrong things they are quickly corrected by
others.
Sorry for spamming the list, but I just know I'm right

Bye

Hey Jim,

So one would think... but that's not how a wiki tends to evolve. I frequent
a number of wikis geared toward computer software topics. From my
experience, introducing people to wikis, you have to use wikis to "grok"
them.

Your issues apply to all media, not specifically to a wiki. Since the wiki
is community driven, bad info does not persist as you assert. Philosophical
disagreements, on the other hand, do persist as there is no one right
answer. I see a wiki as the answer to your issues, not as a problem.

/jhd

"Jim Lewis" wrote in message
...

It's not the same, because these are postings with questions
and maybe
some advice. On a wiki articles are written. Also postings to
this
newsgroup get erased after some time and a wiki is like a book
and the
information stays in it.
I could buy a book, but I'm more for the free stuff...

Greetings,
Wouter


And every idiot who THINKS he or she knows something about bonsai
can contribute to one of these silly-named things, thus
perpetuating errors for as long as the stuff stays up.

There already are more bonsai articles -- good AND bad -- on the
web than anyone can possibly read. Try:

1. www.internetbonsaiclub.org (go to "Knowledge Base")
2. www.evergreengardenworks.com
3. www.bonsai-bci.com
4. www.absbonsai.org
5. www.bonsai-bsf.com

for lots of good FREE info on bonsai (though you still will get
better, and more consistently reliable, info by not being so
cheap and buying a few good books).

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Blessed
statistics: A Demonstration -- Welcome to Hooterville!
Population: 2000. Elevation: 3000. Established: 1850. TOTAL =
6850

Well . . . to each (as they say) his own.

Wikiwiki is Pigeon-Hawaiian (Pigeon-Polynesian) for "hurry up,"
which isn't something you want to do in Bonsai. ;-)

Youse guys can wikiwiki bonsai all you want, but don't look for
ME there. I'll have my nose in a book somewhere.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Who hasn't
seen or heard the word "grok" used for "understand" since the
'60s and thought (hoped) it had died an unnatural and very
painful death.




"John Dhom" bonsaiATdhomDOTnet wrote in message
...
Hey Jim,

So one would think... but that's not how a wiki tends to
evolve. I frequent
a number of wikis geared toward computer software topics. From
my
experience, introducing people to wikis, you have to use wikis
to "grok"
them.

Your issues apply to all media, not specifically to a wiki.
Since the wiki
is community driven, bad info does not persist as you assert.
Philosophical
disagreements, on the other hand, do persist as there is no one
right
answer. I see a wiki as the answer to your issues, not as a
problem.

/jhd

"Jim Lewis" wrote in message
...

It's not the same, because these are postings with
questions
and maybe
some advice. On a wiki articles are written. Also postings
to
this
newsgroup get erased after some time and a wiki is like a
book
and the
information stays in it.
I could buy a book, but I'm more for the free stuff...

Greetings,
Wouter


And every idiot who THINKS he or she knows something about
bonsai
can contribute to one of these silly-named things, thus
perpetuating errors for as long as the stuff stays up.

There already are more bonsai articles -- good AND bad -- on
the
web than anyone can possibly read. Try:

1. www.internetbonsaiclub.org (go to "Knowledge Base")
2. www.evergreengardenworks.com
3. www.bonsai-bci.com
4. www.absbonsai.org
5. www.bonsai-bsf.com

for lots of good FREE info on bonsai (though you still will
get
better, and more consistently reliable, info by not being so
cheap and buying a few good books).

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Blessed
statistics: A Demonstration -- Welcome to Hooterville!
Population: 2000. Elevation: 3000. Established: 1850. TOTAL
=
6850

Love you too

/jhd

"Jim Lewis" wrote in message
...
Well . . . to each (as they say) his own.

Wikiwiki is Pigeon-Hawaiian (Pigeon-Polynesian) for "hurry up,"
which isn't something you want to do in Bonsai. ;-)

Youse guys can wikiwiki bonsai all you want, but don't look for
ME there. I'll have my nose in a book somewhere.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Who hasn't
seen or heard the word "grok" used for "understand" since the
'60s and thought (hoped) it had died an unnatural and very
painful death.




"John Dhom" bonsaiATdhomDOTnet wrote in message
...
Hey Jim,

So one would think... but that's not how a wiki tends to
evolve. I frequent
a number of wikis geared toward computer software topics. From
my
experience, introducing people to wikis, you have to use wikis
to "grok"
them.

Your issues apply to all media, not specifically to a wiki.
Since the wiki
is community driven, bad info does not persist as you assert.
Philosophical
disagreements, on the other hand, do persist as there is no one
right
answer. I see a wiki as the answer to your issues, not as a
problem.

/jhd

"Jim Lewis" wrote in message
...

It's not the same, because these are postings with
questions
and maybe
some advice. On a wiki articles are written. Also postings
to
this
newsgroup get erased after some time and a wiki is like a
book
and the
information stays in it.
I could buy a book, but I'm more for the free stuff...

Greetings,
Wouter


And every idiot who THINKS he or she knows something about
bonsai
can contribute to one of these silly-named things, thus
perpetuating errors for as long as the stuff stays up.

There already are more bonsai articles -- good AND bad -- on
the
web than anyone can possibly read. Try:

1. www.internetbonsaiclub.org (go to "Knowledge Base")
2. www.evergreengardenworks.com
3. www.bonsai-bci.com
4. www.absbonsai.org
5. www.bonsai-bsf.com

for lots of good FREE info on bonsai (though you still will
get
better, and more consistently reliable, info by not being so
cheap and buying a few good books).

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Blessed
statistics: A Demonstration -- Welcome to Hooterville!
Population: 2000. Elevation: 3000. Established: 1850. TOTAL
=
6850