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[IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods
I am repotting some recently purchased, collected buttonwoods. I am always
disappointed to see how few roots these plants have. I have one that has been repotted by me to a 12 inch bulb pan using Metro Mix 500 and I don't think the roots have spread since I transplanted it a year or more ago. It is still alive and putting out new growth, just no roots to speak of. Any other tropical would have filled the pot with roots by now. My normal fertilizer is Osmocote 14-14-14. Another buttonwood I just repotted this afternoon was growing in what looked like a mixture of Florida peat and bark. It had been purchased from a vendor in South Florida. It had a few more roots, but not many. I know it is over a year since it was collected. I have tried bonsai soil of 1/3 Turface, 1/3 gravel and 1/3 composted pine bark. Those plants are dead. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods
Billy: Have you tried Roots 2? I've found it helps establish root
growth in bonsai which had been perennially poor at this, irregardless of soil mix. In fact, I'm looking for a new source, since I think my old source is no longer in business. Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Billy M. Rhodes I am repotting some recently purchased, collected buttonwoods. I am always disappointed to see how few roots these plants have. I have one that has been repotted by me to a 12 inch bulb pan using Metro Mix 500 and I don't think the roots have spread since I transplanted it a year or more ago. It is still alive and putting out new growth, just no roots to speak of. Any other tropical would have filled the pot with roots by now. My normal fertilizer is Osmocote 14-14-14. Another buttonwood I just repotted this afternoon was growing in what looked like a mixture of Florida peat and bark. It had been purchased from a vendor in South Florida. It had a few more roots, but not many. I know it is over a year since it was collected. I have tried bonsai soil of 1/3 Turface, 1/3 gravel and 1/3 composted pine bark. Those plants are dead. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods
Billy: Have you tried Roots 2? I've found it helps establish root
growth in bonsai which had been perennially poor at this, irregardless of soil mix. In fact, I'm looking for a new source, since I think my old source is no longer in business. Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Billy M. Rhodes I am repotting some recently purchased, collected buttonwoods. I am always disappointed to see how few roots these plants have. I have one that has been repotted by me to a 12 inch bulb pan using Metro Mix 500 and I don't think the roots have spread since I transplanted it a year or more ago. It is still alive and putting out new growth, just no roots to speak of. Any other tropical would have filled the pot with roots by now. My normal fertilizer is Osmocote 14-14-14. Another buttonwood I just repotted this afternoon was growing in what looked like a mixture of Florida peat and bark. It had been purchased from a vendor in South Florida. It had a few more roots, but not many. I know it is over a year since it was collected. I have tried bonsai soil of 1/3 Turface, 1/3 gravel and 1/3 composted pine bark. Those plants are dead. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods
At 05:22 PM 8/1/2004 -0400, Billy M. Rhodes wrote:
I am repotting some recently purchased, collected buttonwoods. I am always disappointed to see how few roots these plants have. I have one that has been repotted by me to a 12 inch bulb pan using Metro Mix 500 and I don't think the roots have spread since I transplanted it a year or more ago. It is still alive and putting out new growth, just no roots to speak of. Any other tropical would have filled the pot with roots by now. My normal fertilizer is Osmocote 14-14-14. Another buttonwood I just repotted this afternoon was growing in what looked like a mixture of Florida peat and bark. It had been purchased from a vendor in South Florida. It had a few more roots, but not many. I know it is over a year since it was collected. I have tried bonsai soil of 1/3 Turface, 1/3 gravel and 1/3 composted pine bark. Those plants are dead. Billy, I use lava, gravel, pine bark and coral in equal amounts and mine thrive here in Arkansas. I initially started using the coral before I knew any better and have not discontinued it. I only repot about every four years. The roots of buttonwood are very fragile and I clean off the old soil with a stream from a water hose. Buttonwood don't make the quantity of roots most other plants do so if they are healthy they have sufficient roots. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods
At 05:22 PM 8/1/2004 -0400, Billy M. Rhodes wrote:
I am repotting some recently purchased, collected buttonwoods. I am always disappointed to see how few roots these plants have. I have one that has been repotted by me to a 12 inch bulb pan using Metro Mix 500 and I don't think the roots have spread since I transplanted it a year or more ago. It is still alive and putting out new growth, just no roots to speak of. Any other tropical would have filled the pot with roots by now. My normal fertilizer is Osmocote 14-14-14. Another buttonwood I just repotted this afternoon was growing in what looked like a mixture of Florida peat and bark. It had been purchased from a vendor in South Florida. It had a few more roots, but not many. I know it is over a year since it was collected. I have tried bonsai soil of 1/3 Turface, 1/3 gravel and 1/3 composted pine bark. Those plants are dead. Billy, I use lava, gravel, pine bark and coral in equal amounts and mine thrive here in Arkansas. I initially started using the coral before I knew any better and have not discontinued it. I only repot about every four years. The roots of buttonwood are very fragile and I clean off the old soil with a stream from a water hose. Buttonwood don't make the quantity of roots most other plants do so if they are healthy they have sufficient roots. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods
Billy,
Have you tried Tom Brantley ( of Ocala) soil. Seems perfect to me, and I would prefer his coarse type ( very similar to my own) I've brought MAAANYYYY trees back from Florida for myself or for retail, and the FIRST thing I try to do if keeping them is get them out of that goopy goppy Florida nursery soil. They stay tooo wet and , especially during winter inside, it is slow death. Everything CAN get root rot. I got a large BC from the same vendor you got your Buttonwoods from. It just SAT THERE and did nothing for 1 1/2 months after the show. Two weeks ago i decided I better get it repotted to make it through my winter. What a mess of goop, rotted roots, and rotted large roots of OTHER TREES traveling through the soil that were never removed. In lose aggregate new soil it is immediately taking off.!! but, Are you SURE your dead plants were from the coarse soil you used? I'd surely doubt it. I gave up on buttonwood in Ohio ( like trying to overwinter a tomatoe plant) but I always thought they were one of the trees for you guys that establish well with few roots ( Or NONE!!) Dale Cochoy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy M. Rhodes" To: Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 5:22 PM Subject: [IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods I am repotting some recently purchased, collected buttonwoods. I am always disappointed to see how few roots these plants have. I have one that has been repotted by me to a 12 inch bulb pan using Metro Mix 500 and I don't think the roots have spread since I transplanted it a year or more ago. It is still alive and putting out new growth, just no roots to speak of. Any other tropical would have filled the pot with roots by now. My normal fertilizer is Osmocote 14-14-14. Another buttonwood I just repotted this afternoon was growing in what looked like a mixture of Florida peat and bark. It had been purchased from a vendor in South Florida. It had a few more roots, but not many. I know it is over a year since it was collected. I have tried bonsai soil of 1/3 Turface, 1/3 gravel and 1/3 composted pine bark. Those plants are dead. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods
Billy,
Have you tried Tom Brantley ( of Ocala) soil. Seems perfect to me, and I would prefer his coarse type ( very similar to my own) I've brought MAAANYYYY trees back from Florida for myself or for retail, and the FIRST thing I try to do if keeping them is get them out of that goopy goppy Florida nursery soil. They stay tooo wet and , especially during winter inside, it is slow death. Everything CAN get root rot. I got a large BC from the same vendor you got your Buttonwoods from. It just SAT THERE and did nothing for 1 1/2 months after the show. Two weeks ago i decided I better get it repotted to make it through my winter. What a mess of goop, rotted roots, and rotted large roots of OTHER TREES traveling through the soil that were never removed. In lose aggregate new soil it is immediately taking off.!! but, Are you SURE your dead plants were from the coarse soil you used? I'd surely doubt it. I gave up on buttonwood in Ohio ( like trying to overwinter a tomatoe plant) but I always thought they were one of the trees for you guys that establish well with few roots ( Or NONE!!) Dale Cochoy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy M. Rhodes" To: Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 5:22 PM Subject: [IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods I am repotting some recently purchased, collected buttonwoods. I am always disappointed to see how few roots these plants have. I have one that has been repotted by me to a 12 inch bulb pan using Metro Mix 500 and I don't think the roots have spread since I transplanted it a year or more ago. It is still alive and putting out new growth, just no roots to speak of. Any other tropical would have filled the pot with roots by now. My normal fertilizer is Osmocote 14-14-14. Another buttonwood I just repotted this afternoon was growing in what looked like a mixture of Florida peat and bark. It had been purchased from a vendor in South Florida. It had a few more roots, but not many. I know it is over a year since it was collected. I have tried bonsai soil of 1/3 Turface, 1/3 gravel and 1/3 composted pine bark. Those plants are dead. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods
Billy,
Have you tried Tom Brantley ( of Ocala) soil. Seems perfect to me, and I would prefer his coarse type ( very similar to my own) I've brought MAAANYYYY trees back from Florida for myself or for retail, and the FIRST thing I try to do if keeping them is get them out of that goopy goppy Florida nursery soil. They stay tooo wet and , especially during winter inside, it is slow death. Everything CAN get root rot. I got a large BC from the same vendor you got your Buttonwoods from. It just SAT THERE and did nothing for 1 1/2 months after the show. Two weeks ago i decided I better get it repotted to make it through my winter. What a mess of goop, rotted roots, and rotted large roots of OTHER TREES traveling through the soil that were never removed. In lose aggregate new soil it is immediately taking off.!! but, Are you SURE your dead plants were from the coarse soil you used? I'd surely doubt it. I gave up on buttonwood in Ohio ( like trying to overwinter a tomatoe plant) but I always thought they were one of the trees for you guys that establish well with few roots ( Or NONE!!) Dale Cochoy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy M. Rhodes" To: Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 5:22 PM Subject: [IBC] Soil for Buttonwoods I am repotting some recently purchased, collected buttonwoods. I am always disappointed to see how few roots these plants have. I have one that has been repotted by me to a 12 inch bulb pan using Metro Mix 500 and I don't think the roots have spread since I transplanted it a year or more ago. It is still alive and putting out new growth, just no roots to speak of. Any other tropical would have filled the pot with roots by now. My normal fertilizer is Osmocote 14-14-14. Another buttonwood I just repotted this afternoon was growing in what looked like a mixture of Florida peat and bark. It had been purchased from a vendor in South Florida. It had a few more roots, but not many. I know it is over a year since it was collected. I have tried bonsai soil of 1/3 Turface, 1/3 gravel and 1/3 composted pine bark. Those plants are dead. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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