[IBC] Candle Tree
Hi Everybody
About four years back I bought a Candle Tree plant from Ratna Dave in Mumbai. I was training it into a simple informal right style. One fine morning, in a storm blew up and the upper part above the first branch broke up. Over a period of time, the first branch grew about a meter long. I trained it into a beautiful Cascade style with very good rhythmic fall. But sadly it neither flowered nor the fascinating Candles appeared over it. Can anybody tell how should I stimulate it to bloom and produce Candles? Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh "The City Beautiful" ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
what is the botanical name for this tree, or another local , common name, i
am not able to recognize it. ovais karachi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anil Kaushik" To: Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree Hi Everybody About four years back I bought a Candle Tree plant from Ratna Dave in Mumbai. I was training it into a simple informal right style. One fine morning, in a storm blew up and the upper part above the first branch broke up. Over a period of time, the first branch grew about a meter long. I trained it into a beautiful Cascade style with very good rhythmic fall. But sadly it neither flowered nor the fascinating Candles appeared over it. Can anybody tell how should I stimulate it to bloom and produce Candles? Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh "The City Beautiful" ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
what is the botanical name for this tree, or another local , common name, i
am not able to recognize it. ovais karachi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anil Kaushik" To: Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree Hi Everybody About four years back I bought a Candle Tree plant from Ratna Dave in Mumbai. I was training it into a simple informal right style. One fine morning, in a storm blew up and the upper part above the first branch broke up. Over a period of time, the first branch grew about a meter long. I trained it into a beautiful Cascade style with very good rhythmic fall. But sadly it neither flowered nor the fascinating Candles appeared over it. Can anybody tell how should I stimulate it to bloom and produce Candles? Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh "The City Beautiful" ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Ovais
It is Permenteria sp. I wander if I spelled it correctly. Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ovais" To: "Anil Kaushik" ; Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:07 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree what is the botanical name for this tree, or another local , common name, i am not able to recognize it. ovais karachi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anil Kaushik" To: Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree Hi Everybody About four years back I bought a Candle Tree plant from Ratna Dave in Mumbai. I was training it into a simple informal right style. One fine morning, in a storm blew up and the upper part above the first branch broke up. Over a period of time, the first branch grew about a meter long. I trained it into a beautiful Cascade style with very good rhythmic fall. But sadly it neither flowered nor the fascinating Candles appeared over it. Can anybody tell how should I stimulate it to bloom and produce Candles? Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh "The City Beautiful" ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Ovais
It is Permenteria sp. I wander if I spelled it correctly. Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ovais" To: "Anil Kaushik" ; Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:07 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree what is the botanical name for this tree, or another local , common name, i am not able to recognize it. ovais karachi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anil Kaushik" To: Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree Hi Everybody About four years back I bought a Candle Tree plant from Ratna Dave in Mumbai. I was training it into a simple informal right style. One fine morning, in a storm blew up and the upper part above the first branch broke up. Over a period of time, the first branch grew about a meter long. I trained it into a beautiful Cascade style with very good rhythmic fall. But sadly it neither flowered nor the fascinating Candles appeared over it. Can anybody tell how should I stimulate it to bloom and produce Candles? Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh "The City Beautiful" ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Ovais
This a native plant of some Latin American country and the common name that I know is "Candle Tree". Of course its botanical name is "Parmentiera cereifera". The beauty of this plant is that, unlike in other plants, its legumes grow upwards like Candles. Where as all legume like fruit or seed pods dangle downwards. Regards Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh "The City Beautiful" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ovais" To: "Anil Kaushik" Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:56 AM Subject: Candle Tree dear Anil, what do they call it locally, the Indian name. regards ovais ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anil Kaushik" To: "Ovais" Cc: Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:33 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree Ovais It is Permenteria sp. I wander if I spelled it correctly. Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ovais" To: "Anil Kaushik" ; Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:07 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree what is the botanical name for this tree, or another local , common name, i am not able to recognize it. ovais karachi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anil Kaushik" To: Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree Hi Everybody About four years back I bought a Candle Tree plant from Ratna Dave in Mumbai. I was training it into a simple informal right style. One fine morning, in a storm blew up and the upper part above the first branch broke up. Over a period of time, the first branch grew about a meter long. I trained it into a beautiful Cascade style with very good rhythmic fall. But sadly it neither flowered nor the fascinating Candles appeared over it. Can anybody tell how should I stimulate it to bloom and produce Candles? Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh "The City Beautiful" ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Ovais
This a native plant of some Latin American country and the common name that I know is "Candle Tree". Of course its botanical name is "Parmentiera cereifera". The beauty of this plant is that, unlike in other plants, its legumes grow upwards like Candles. Where as all legume like fruit or seed pods dangle downwards. Regards Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh "The City Beautiful" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ovais" To: "Anil Kaushik" Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:56 AM Subject: Candle Tree dear Anil, what do they call it locally, the Indian name. regards ovais ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anil Kaushik" To: "Ovais" Cc: Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:33 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree Ovais It is Permenteria sp. I wander if I spelled it correctly. Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ovais" To: "Anil Kaushik" ; Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:07 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree what is the botanical name for this tree, or another local , common name, i am not able to recognize it. ovais karachi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anil Kaushik" To: Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree Hi Everybody About four years back I bought a Candle Tree plant from Ratna Dave in Mumbai. I was training it into a simple informal right style. One fine morning, in a storm blew up and the upper part above the first branch broke up. Over a period of time, the first branch grew about a meter long. I trained it into a beautiful Cascade style with very good rhythmic fall. But sadly it neither flowered nor the fascinating Candles appeared over it. Can anybody tell how should I stimulate it to bloom and produce Candles? Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh "The City Beautiful" ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Hello Anil, I found your discription very interesting, so I did search
on Web for botanical name... This a native plant of some Latin American country and the common name that I know is "Candle Tree". Of course its botanical name is "Parmentiera cereifera". The beauty of this plant is that, unlike in other plants, its legumes grow upwards like Candles. Where as all legume like fruit or seed pods dangle downwards. I find this site and others with good pictures: http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/candle_stick_tree.htm and they all show its fruits hanging *downwards* like candles that have just been dipped. If you have ever made candles by hand, they look exactly like this! And their size is up to 12 inches long, good size for a candle, but very large for a bonsai :) Also, the fruits and flowers seem to appear only on the heavy trunks (cauliflorous, Nina is that the right word?), so perhaps yours is simply not old enough to have flowers. Or the flower buds might be easily rubbed off, or mistaken for insects and removed... It is said to be closely related to Jaboticaba, which is often used for bonsai. Some of the cultural hints for this plant's flowering might also help your Candle Tree. Good luck with it! Anita Northern Harford County, Maryland, USDA zone 6 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Hello Anil, I found your discription very interesting, so I did search
on Web for botanical name... This a native plant of some Latin American country and the common name that I know is "Candle Tree". Of course its botanical name is "Parmentiera cereifera". The beauty of this plant is that, unlike in other plants, its legumes grow upwards like Candles. Where as all legume like fruit or seed pods dangle downwards. I find this site and others with good pictures: http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/candle_stick_tree.htm and they all show its fruits hanging *downwards* like candles that have just been dipped. If you have ever made candles by hand, they look exactly like this! And their size is up to 12 inches long, good size for a candle, but very large for a bonsai :) Also, the fruits and flowers seem to appear only on the heavy trunks (cauliflorous, Nina is that the right word?), so perhaps yours is simply not old enough to have flowers. Or the flower buds might be easily rubbed off, or mistaken for insects and removed... It is said to be closely related to Jaboticaba, which is often used for bonsai. Some of the cultural hints for this plant's flowering might also help your Candle Tree. Good luck with it! Anita Northern Harford County, Maryland, USDA zone 6 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Hello Anita
Thank you for giving all the information. I could lay my hands on a three years old Magzine with an article showing two colour photographs. Yes you are right the fruit of this plant is shown "hanging downwards". But when I bought this plant I was told that this is the only plant whoes legume like fruit grows upright and looks like a candle. I was facinated and quickly bought the plant. Anyways I am sending you a picture of this plant. Anil Kaushik Bonsai Club (India) Chandigarh "The City Beautiful" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Hawkins" To: "Anil Kaushik" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: [IBC] Candle Tree Hello Anil, I found your description very interesting, so I did search on Web for botanical name... This a native plant of some Latin American country and the common name that I know is "Candle Tree". Of course its botanical name is "Parmentiera cereifera". The beauty of this plant is that, unlike in other plants, its legumes grow upwards like Candles. Where as all legume like fruit or seed pods dangle downwards. I find this site and others with good pictures: http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/candle_stick_tree.htm and they all show its fruits hanging *downwards* like candles that have just been dipped. If you have ever made candles by hand, they look exactly like this! And their size is up to 12 inches long, good size for a candle, but very large for a bonsai :) Also, the fruits and flowers seem to appear only on the heavy trunks (cauliflorous, Nina is that the right word?), so perhaps yours is simply not old enough to have flowers. Or the flower buds might be easily rubbed off, or mistaken for insects and removed... It is said to be closely related to Jaboticaba, which is often used for bonsai. Some of the cultural hints for this plant's flowering might also help your Candle Tree. Good luck with it! Anita Northern Harford County, Maryland, USDA zone 6 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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