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[IBC] Maples pruning
I have several maples. In my area the maples have to growth periods. In the
spring and late summer. I do my prunung during these 2 growth periods. I wouldn't prune my trees anymore this year. Next spring iis more suitable SteveW ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Steve wachs wrote: I have several maples. In my area the maples have to growth periods. In the spring and late summer. I do my prunung during these 2 growth periods. I wouldn't prune my trees anymore this year. Next spring iis more suitable SteveW thanks Steve , but my pruning was intended not on the year's fresh growth , it is a general pruning to keep the tree in shape and enhance vigor of the remaining buds for the next year 05 growth . my idea is the following the sap is inside and nourishing a lot a buds. many of them will be cut in early spring before they will break out .. as I need to shape my tree up so If I cut them now.. will this action stimulate the growth of new back buds for a better spring 05? thanks MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
Steve wachs wrote: I have several maples. In my area the maples have to growth periods. In the spring and late summer. I do my prunung during these 2 growth periods. I wouldn't prune my trees anymore this year. Next spring iis more suitable SteveW thanks Steve , but my pruning was intended not on the year's fresh growth , it is a general pruning to keep the tree in shape and enhance vigor of the remaining buds for the next year 05 growth . my idea is the following the sap is inside and nourishing a lot a buds. many of them will be cut in early spring before they will break out .. as I need to shape my tree up so If I cut them now.. will this action stimulate the growth of new back buds for a better spring 05? thanks MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
If i undrstand you correctly, I belive what I do in the early spring is the same thing as what you want to do now. I do not know if prunung in the late fall will have the same effect.
I do not want to stimilate growth now. My trees are wintered in a greenhouse. Temps stay just over 32*f. Spring starts in February. I uually prune and repot by early march. I wait until the buds arw just about to open. that's when I do my pruning and repotting. I do hard pruning in the late summer as well, when maples start their late season growth -- SteveW Long Island NY ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
If i undrstand you correctly, I belive what I do in the early spring is the same thing as what you want to do now. I do not know if prunung in the late fall will have the same effect.
I do not want to stimilate growth now. My trees are wintered in a greenhouse. Temps stay just over 32*f. Spring starts in February. I uually prune and repot by early march. I wait until the buds arw just about to open. that's when I do my pruning and repotting. I do hard pruning in the late summer as well, when maples start their late season growth -- SteveW Long Island NY ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
hi Steve Steve wachs wrote: If i undrstand you correctly, I belive what I do in the early spring is the same thing as what you want to do now. that's right I do not know if prunung in the late fall will have the same effect. I was wondering if pruning now might stimulate the remaining buds for a better break out in the following spring I do not want to stimilate growth now. My trees are wintered in a greenhouse. of course not , it is not the season mine will be in there too Temps stay just over 32*f. Spring starts in February. I uually prune and repot by early march. me too I wait until the buds arw just about to open. correct that's when I do my pruning and repotting. I do hard pruning in the late summer as well, when maples start their late season growth so do I ... well I'll wait as usual for march for pruning ... thanks again MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
hi Steve Steve wachs wrote: If i undrstand you correctly, I belive what I do in the early spring is the same thing as what you want to do now. that's right I do not know if prunung in the late fall will have the same effect. I was wondering if pruning now might stimulate the remaining buds for a better break out in the following spring I do not want to stimilate growth now. My trees are wintered in a greenhouse. of course not , it is not the season mine will be in there too Temps stay just over 32*f. Spring starts in February. I uually prune and repot by early march. me too I wait until the buds arw just about to open. correct that's when I do my pruning and repotting. I do hard pruning in the late summer as well, when maples start their late season growth so do I ... well I'll wait as usual for march for pruning ... thanks again MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
Hi
I hear it called pinching back, but I do the same thing as you describe, except i do not do it before I put the trees away for the winter. This is done in the spring. i feel it's better to let the trees go dormant. for at least 3 months. -- SteveW Long Island NY ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Hi
I hear it called pinching back, but I do the same thing as you describe, except i do not do it before I put the trees away for the winter. This is done in the spring. i feel it's better to let the trees go dormant. for at least 3 months. -- SteveW Long Island NY ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
On 25 Oct 2004 at 11:21, Steve wachs wrote:
Hi I hear it called pinching back, but I do the same thing as you describe, except i do not do it before I put the trees away for the winter. This is done in the spring. i feel it's better to let the trees go dormant. for at least 3 months. -- Pinching back is what you do to long shoots in the spring. The fall pruning, removes the terminal bud, forcing the tree to put its energy into the (smaller) buds farther back on the branches. This tends both to promote more side branches AND smaller leaves. Rather than _cutting_ off the end of the branch, I prefer to carefully break off the terminal bud with my fingers, leaving the vestigial buds that exist immediately under the terminals. This, too, promotes smaller leaves, shorter internodes, and better branching. I do this with all deciduous trees. Thanks to Brent W. for suggesting this for my sweetgum bonsai a few years ago, It has helped. (But sweetgum still may be marginal for "good" bonsai.) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect - Aldo Leopold - A Sand County Almanac ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Jim's right. Pinching and dis-budding are two different operations and have
two different purposes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lewis" To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: [IBC] Maples pruning On 25 Oct 2004 at 11:21, Steve wachs wrote: Hi I hear it called pinching back, but I do the same thing as you describe, except i do not do it before I put the trees away for the winter. This is done in the spring. i feel it's better to let the trees go dormant. for at least 3 months. -- Pinching back is what you do to long shoots in the spring. The fall pruning, removes the terminal bud, forcing the tree to put its energy into the (smaller) buds farther back on the branches. This tends both to promote more side branches AND smaller leaves. Rather than _cutting_ off the end of the branch, I prefer to carefully break off the terminal bud with my fingers, leaving the vestigial buds that exist immediately under the terminals. This, too, promotes smaller leaves, shorter internodes, and better branching. I do this with all deciduous trees. Thanks to Brent W. for suggesting this for my sweetgum bonsai a few years ago, It has helped. (But sweetgum still may be marginal for "good" bonsai.) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect - Aldo Leopold - A Sand County Almanac ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
HI Steve
Steve wachs wrote: In a message dated 10/25/2004 1:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: I have been tip pruning all my maples (and most other deciduous trees) before I put them away for the winter. I wait until they are truly dormant, a few weeks after, leaf fall, when danger of sap rising on a warm day is minimized (Late Oct.-Mid Nov. here in zone 5). I think mid-too-late Winter would be better but most of my Winter stored trees are hard to get to by then. Late Fall before I put them away just works for me. I make a point to trim all the dominant tip bud pairs, I believe these buds send a chemical signal down the branch that keeps the dormant buds dormant. I think by removing the dominant bud pair and stopping that signal some of the dormant buds are spurred into growth. By doing this, late fall I think those dormant buds get a signal to grow the whole Winter, a long steady push to grow. When Spring comes I have found I have many choices of buds to leave and ones that need to be removed, sometimes I find more then a dozen from certain growth points. When I tip prune late Fall I prune at least an 1/8 of an inch above the pair of buds (horizontal bud pair not perpendicular pair) that allows for a little sap withdrawal, die back. The die back always seems to stop at the first bud pair after cut point, like I want it to. it sounds interesting .. but do you notice something different in spring ? a better growth of beck buds on the branch or trunk? Doug Taylor my problem is that in the fall i have some great ideas for the spring. The problem is My brain does not work as well in the spring. What I do for this is I use rwist ties and tooth picks. i use the twist ties to matk branches that need to be removed or shortened. I use toothpicks to mark the fron of the tree I am going to pot or work on so do I I put red wire rings on twigs that has to be removed or shortened , and I use a wooden skewer to remove unwanted buds when still dormants MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
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