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Theo 01-12-2004 08:14 PM

new tendency
 
http://www.gsbf-bonsai.org/hanfordbo...sai_design.htm
in english !

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Iris Cohen 01-12-2004 08:24 PM

Yes. Just heard Walter speak on that very subject. He finished up with a
dissertation on the American trends, but without even mentioning buttonwood.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
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Iris Cohen 01-12-2004 08:24 PM

Yes. Just heard Walter speak on that very subject. He finished up with a
dissertation on the American trends, but without even mentioning buttonwood.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

Jim Lewis 01-12-2004 08:44 PM

On 1 Dec 2004 at 21:14, Theo wrote:

http://www.gsbf-bonsai.org/hanfordbo...sai_design.htm
in english !



Yes. This is the same -- or very much the same -- article
Walter did for one of the bonsai magazines in 2 or 3 parts (ABS
Journal, I think) after trying it out on us in the gallery over
the course of several weeks.

It is a very good essay on the art of bonsai and I agree with
much more of it than I disagree with -- FWIW.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests
are like genealogists: We know our roots!

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Jim Lewis 01-12-2004 08:44 PM

On 1 Dec 2004 at 21:14, Theo wrote:

http://www.gsbf-bonsai.org/hanfordbo...sai_design.htm
in english !



Yes. This is the same -- or very much the same -- article
Walter did for one of the bonsai magazines in 2 or 3 parts (ABS
Journal, I think) after trying it out on us in the gallery over
the course of several weeks.

It is a very good essay on the art of bonsai and I agree with
much more of it than I disagree with -- FWIW.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests
are like genealogists: We know our roots!

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Theo 01-12-2004 09:07 PM



Iris Cohen wrote:

Yes. Just heard Walter speak on that very subject. He finished up with a
dissertation on the American trends, but without even mentioning buttonwood.


it is an interesting topic indeed ( the style and fashion linked to
bonsai ),
I do not know the european name for the buttonwood..


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Theo 01-12-2004 09:07 PM



Iris Cohen wrote:

Yes. Just heard Walter speak on that very subject. He finished up with a
dissertation on the American trends, but without even mentioning buttonwood.


it is an interesting topic indeed ( the style and fashion linked to
bonsai ),
I do not know the european name for the buttonwood..


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Theo 01-12-2004 09:11 PM

I like it .. it relativize the wiewing of bonsai .. according the
context we live in .. and opens new perspectives

Jim Lewis wrote:

On 1 Dec 2004 at 21:14, Theo wrote:


http://www.gsbf-bonsai.org/hanfordbo...sai_design.htm
in english !




Yes. This is the same -- or very much the same -- article
Walter did for one of the bonsai magazines in 2 or 3 parts (ABS
Journal, I think) after trying it out on us in the gallery over
the course of several weeks.

It is a very good essay on the art of bonsai and I agree with
much more of it than I disagree with -- FWIW.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests
are like genealogists: We know our roots!

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Theo 01-12-2004 09:11 PM

I like it .. it relativize the wiewing of bonsai .. according the
context we live in .. and opens new perspectives

Jim Lewis wrote:

On 1 Dec 2004 at 21:14, Theo wrote:


http://www.gsbf-bonsai.org/hanfordbo...sai_design.htm
in english !




Yes. This is the same -- or very much the same -- article
Walter did for one of the bonsai magazines in 2 or 3 parts (ABS
Journal, I think) after trying it out on us in the gallery over
the course of several weeks.

It is a very good essay on the art of bonsai and I agree with
much more of it than I disagree with -- FWIW.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests
are like genealogists: We know our roots!

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marco favero 01-12-2004 11:35 PM

At 22.07 01/12/2004, Theo wrote:
Iris Cohen wrote:

Yes. Just heard Walter speak on that very subject. He finished up with a
dissertation on the American trends, but without even mentioning

buttonwood.

it is an interesting topic indeed ( the style and fashion linked to
bonsai ),
I do not know the european name for the buttonwood..


Theo,

it is platanus occidentalis ( platano americano)


marco

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marco favero 01-12-2004 11:35 PM

At 22.07 01/12/2004, Theo wrote:
Iris Cohen wrote:

Yes. Just heard Walter speak on that very subject. He finished up with a
dissertation on the American trends, but without even mentioning

buttonwood.

it is an interesting topic indeed ( the style and fashion linked to
bonsai ),
I do not know the european name for the buttonwood..


Theo,

it is platanus occidentalis ( platano americano)


marco

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Alan Walker 02-12-2004 01:41 AM

Theo: The botanical name for buttonwood is Conocarpus erectus.
Alan Walker
http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org

-----Original Message-----
Iris Cohen wrote:
Yes. Just heard Walter speak on that very subject. He finished up
with a dissertation on the American trends, but without even
mentioning buttonwood.
From: Theo
It is an interesting topic indeed (the style and fashion linked
to
bonsai ), I do not know the european name for the buttonwood..


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++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++
************************************************** ******************************
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+++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++


Alan Walker 02-12-2004 01:41 AM

Theo: The botanical name for buttonwood is Conocarpus erectus.
Alan Walker
http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org

-----Original Message-----
Iris Cohen wrote:
Yes. Just heard Walter speak on that very subject. He finished up
with a dissertation on the American trends, but without even
mentioning buttonwood.
From: Theo
It is an interesting topic indeed (the style and fashion linked
to
bonsai ), I do not know the european name for the buttonwood..


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++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++
************************************************** ******************************
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Iris Cohen 02-12-2004 02:01 AM

I do not know the european name for the buttonwood..
Theo,
it is platanus occidentalis ( platano americano)

A common error. This is why we have botanical names. I was referring to Florida
buttonwood, Conocarpus erectus. It is God's gift to American bonsai, equal to
anything the mountains of China or Japan can produce. Sadly, it is little known
in Europe, although it would probably be easy to grow in the Mediterranean
countries. The problem is that you can't grow one from seed or cuttings, since
its whole appeal is the deadwood. They are collected, which makes them very
expensive.
Actually, Platanus occidentalis, which we call sycamore, is not particularly
suited for bonsai. The leaves are way too big.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

Iris Cohen 02-12-2004 02:01 AM

I do not know the european name for the buttonwood..
Theo,
it is platanus occidentalis ( platano americano)

A common error. This is why we have botanical names. I was referring to Florida
buttonwood, Conocarpus erectus. It is God's gift to American bonsai, equal to
anything the mountains of China or Japan can produce. Sadly, it is little known
in Europe, although it would probably be easy to grow in the Mediterranean
countries. The problem is that you can't grow one from seed or cuttings, since
its whole appeal is the deadwood. They are collected, which makes them very
expensive.
Actually, Platanus occidentalis, which we call sycamore, is not particularly
suited for bonsai. The leaves are way too big.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra


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