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Kitsune Miko 06-04-2005 07:34 AM

[IBC] Grapes
 
I have spent the last week in the south of France with
a bunch of vintners. The consenses is that grapes
will not take well to being a bonsai.

I know this can be done and I have some 80 year old
muscat grapes dug late last fall. They are sprouting.
I need all the bonsi advice I can get on having these
plants survive.

Thanks,

Kits

****
"Expectations are resentments under construction."

Anne Lamott

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Pauline Muth 06-04-2005 12:14 PM

Go for it....Martin Schmalenberg from NJ, USA has one of the most
incredible grape bonsai. He displayed it at the IB conference in
Rochester NY a few years ago with grapes on it.
I would suggest contacting him for information.at
Pauline Muth


-----Original Message-----
From: Internet Bonsai Club ]On Behalf
Of Kitsune Miko
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:35 AM
To:

Subject: [IBC] Grapes


I have spent the last week in the south of France with
a bunch of vintners. The consenses is that grapes
will not take well to being a bonsai.

I know this can be done and I have some 80 year old
muscat grapes dug late last fall. They are sprouting.
I need all the bonsi advice I can get on having these
plants survive.

Thanks,

Kits

****
"Expectations are resentments under construction."

Anne Lamott

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Jim Lewis 06-04-2005 12:52 PM

I have spent the last week in the south of France with
a bunch of vintners. The consenses is that grapes
will not take well to being a bonsai.

I know this can be done and I have some 80 year old
muscat grapes dug late last fall. They are sprouting.
I need all the bonsi advice I can get on having these
plants survive.

Thanks,


I've had Vitus rotundifolia, our native Muscadine grape in a pot
as a semi-cascade for several years (2001) now. Dunno how mine
would compare to "muscat" grapes.

On mine, leaf reduction is not ideal, so a fairly large bonsai
is called for. Mine has a 24-inch-when-last-measured "tail"
(probably 20, now, since I broke 4 inches off the tip, last week
in an ill-considered test of flexibility). They wire VERY
poorly since grape "wood" is pithy-fibrous and stiff, so if you
wire do it on newer branches. Pinch new growth rigorously, and
removal of the larger leaves _does_ result in the next crop of
leaves being smaller. I have successfully defoliated mine..

Mine has yet to flower or fruit, even though it is from an older
vine. I dug it from my woods, which is filled with them -- some
of them quite large and which climb into the tops of the tallest
trees.

Normal bonsai soil seems to work, but grapes need watering
often. Mine is in a very deep pot, which stays wet longer. I
give it Miracle-Gro and/or fish emulsion on an every-two-week-in-
the-growing-season basis.

Don Zieman, who lives I believe, up in the N. California grape
country has considerable experience with grapes as bonsai. He
posts regularly on the gallery (and occasionally here) but I
don't have his e-mail address.

Enjoy them. Mine is still in the fresh-new-leaves stages, but
I'll take a pic in a week or two and post on the gallery.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - People,
when Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts
and berries. And I'm right here to tell you (that) the berries
are just about all gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician

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Carl Rosner 06-04-2005 12:52 PM

I think there is a picture of the grape Bonsai in the latest ABS magazine. Martin was featured in an article in that issue.

Carl

Pauline Muth wrote:
Go for it....Martin Schmalenberg from NJ, USA has one of the most
incredible grape bonsai. He displayed it at the IB conference in
Rochester NY a few years ago with grapes on it.
I would suggest contacting him for information.at
Pauline Muth


-----Original Message-----
From: Internet Bonsai Club ]On Behalf
Of Kitsune Miko
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:35 AM
To:

Subject: [IBC] Grapes


I have spent the last week in the south of France with
a bunch of vintners. The consenses is that grapes
will not take well to being a bonsai.

I know this can be done and I have some 80 year old
muscat grapes dug late last fall. They are sprouting.
I need all the bonsi advice I can get on having these
plants survive.

Thanks,

Kits



Carl L. Rosner - near Atlantic City zone 6/7

www.carlrosner.com
http://www.yessy.com/arteacher3725
http://rosner.becanz.net

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Carl Rosner 06-04-2005 12:55 PM

http://www.bonsaiinn.com/

Kit: The above URL is Don Ziemann's web site. I think he would also be able to help you, since he is on the west coat.

Best regards,
Carl

Kitsune Miko wrote:
I have spent the last week in the south of France with
a bunch of vintners. The consenses is that grapes
will not take well to being a bonsai.

I know this can be done and I have some 80 year old
muscat grapes dug late last fall. They are sprouting.
I need all the bonsi advice I can get on having these
plants survive.

Thanks,

Kits

****


Carl L. Rosner - near Atlantic City zone 6/7

www.carlrosner.com
http://www.yessy.com/arteacher3725
http://rosner.becanz.net

************************************************** ******************************
++++Sponsored, in part, by Edmund Castillo++++
************************************************** ******************************
-- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ --

+++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++


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