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06-04-2005, 07:34 AM
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[IBC] Grapes
I have spent the last week in the south of France with
a bunch of vintners. The consenses is that grapes will not take well to being a bonsai. I know this can be done and I have some 80 year old muscat grapes dug late last fall. They are sprouting. I need all the bonsi advice I can get on having these plants survive. Thanks, Kits **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Edmund Castillo++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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06-04-2005, 12:52 PM
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I have spent the last week in the south of France with
a bunch of vintners. The consenses is that grapes will not take well to being a bonsai. I know this can be done and I have some 80 year old muscat grapes dug late last fall. They are sprouting. I need all the bonsi advice I can get on having these plants survive. Thanks, I've had Vitus rotundifolia, our native Muscadine grape in a pot as a semi-cascade for several years (2001) now. Dunno how mine would compare to "muscat" grapes. On mine, leaf reduction is not ideal, so a fairly large bonsai is called for. Mine has a 24-inch-when-last-measured "tail" (probably 20, now, since I broke 4 inches off the tip, last week in an ill-considered test of flexibility). They wire VERY poorly since grape "wood" is pithy-fibrous and stiff, so if you wire do it on newer branches. Pinch new growth rigorously, and removal of the larger leaves _does_ result in the next crop of leaves being smaller. I have successfully defoliated mine.. Mine has yet to flower or fruit, even though it is from an older vine. I dug it from my woods, which is filled with them -- some of them quite large and which climb into the tops of the tallest trees. Normal bonsai soil seems to work, but grapes need watering often. Mine is in a very deep pot, which stays wet longer. I give it Miracle-Gro and/or fish emulsion on an every-two-week-in- the-growing-season basis. Don Zieman, who lives I believe, up in the N. California grape country has considerable experience with grapes as bonsai. He posts regularly on the gallery (and occasionally here) but I don't have his e-mail address. Enjoy them. Mine is still in the fresh-new-leaves stages, but I'll take a pic in a week or two and post on the gallery. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - People, when Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and berries. And I'm right here to tell you (that) the berries are just about all gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Edmund Castillo++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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06-04-2005, 12:52 PM
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I think there is a picture of the grape Bonsai in the latest ABS magazine. Martin was featured in an article in that issue.
Carl Pauline Muth wrote: Go for it....Martin Schmalenberg from NJ, USA has one of the most incredible grape bonsai. He displayed it at the IB conference in Rochester NY a few years ago with grapes on it. I would suggest contacting him for information.at Pauline Muth -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ]On Behalf Of Kitsune Miko Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:35 AM To: Subject: [IBC] Grapes I have spent the last week in the south of France with a bunch of vintners. The consenses is that grapes will not take well to being a bonsai. I know this can be done and I have some 80 year old muscat grapes dug late last fall. They are sprouting. I need all the bonsi advice I can get on having these plants survive. Thanks, Kits Carl L. Rosner - near Atlantic City zone 6/7 www.carlrosner.com http://www.yessy.com/arteacher3725 http://rosner.becanz.net ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Edmund Castillo++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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06-04-2005, 12:55 PM
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http://www.bonsaiinn.com/
Kit: The above URL is Don Ziemann's web site. I think he would also be able to help you, since he is on the west coat. Best regards, Carl Kitsune Miko wrote: I have spent the last week in the south of France with a bunch of vintners. The consenses is that grapes will not take well to being a bonsai. I know this can be done and I have some 80 year old muscat grapes dug late last fall. They are sprouting. I need all the bonsi advice I can get on having these plants survive. Thanks, Kits **** Carl L. Rosner - near Atlantic City zone 6/7 www.carlrosner.com http://www.yessy.com/arteacher3725 http://rosner.becanz.net ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Edmund Castillo++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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