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Ethan Smith 08-06-2005 03:52 PM

[IBC] Mugo Pine
 
Hi everyone, I'm still pretty new to Bonsai, and I have some concerns
about a mugo pine that seems to be pretty stressed.

At the May Columbus Bonsai Society meeting I participated in a Mini
Mugo pine workshop. With some expert help from some very experienced
folks I felt like it had a pretty good chance for survival. We didn't
take off more than about 10% of green, maybe two small twigs of
foliage, and pruned a few meaty roots but nothing crazy. We made sure
to work the soil in really well, wired it a little bit, nothing fancy,
seemed safe to me and looked like it had good potential.

I then put it under a bench for two weeks to recover as instructed,
the bench has half inch slots between boards so it still got a little
bit of sun. I then brought it out and it gets full sun. Now it seems
that the new candles that looked healthy before the workshop are
pretty white and crispy, and some of the mature needles have browned.
Is there any way to tell if I can save it or is it just toast? Any
advice?

The tree seemed like the candles were more developed than other stock
that we could pick from, was this my downfall? Did I pick one that was
too close to hardening off?

Or could I be over watering? We've have had a pretty hot and dry spell
for the last few weeks so I've been watching my trees closly and
watering when they need it. With temps in the 90s no rain for a more
than a week and all day sun I can't imagine that watering it well once
a day could hurt it...anyway does anyone have suggestions for saving
my new tree.
thanks a bunch,
Ethan
--
Ethan Smith, Columbus, Ohio
USDA Zone 6, Sunset 35 & 41
but wait around, it may feel more like zone 2 or even 9?

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Bart Thomas 08-06-2005 04:05 PM

While I don't know the answer to your present question,
there's a wealth of good info in this thread on another forum, started by
"Mr. Mugo Pine" himself, Vance Wood.

http://forum.bonsaitalk.com/showthread.php?t=9631


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Smith"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: [IBC] Mugo Pine


Hi everyone, I'm still pretty new to Bonsai, and I have some concerns
about a mugo pine that seems to be pretty stressed.

At the May Columbus Bonsai Society meeting I participated in a Mini
Mugo pine workshop. With some expert help from some very experienced
folks I felt like it had a pretty good chance for survival. We didn't
take off more than about 10% of green, maybe two small twigs of
foliage, and pruned a few meaty roots but nothing crazy. We made sure
to work the soil in really well, wired it a little bit, nothing fancy,
seemed safe to me and looked like it had good potential.

I then put it under a bench for two weeks to recover as instructed,
the bench has half inch slots between boards so it still got a little
bit of sun. I then brought it out and it gets full sun. Now it seems
that the new candles that looked healthy before the workshop are
pretty white and crispy, and some of the mature needles have browned.
Is there any way to tell if I can save it or is it just toast? Any
advice?

The tree seemed like the candles were more developed than other stock
that we could pick from, was this my downfall? Did I pick one that was
too close to hardening off?

Or could I be over watering? We've have had a pretty hot and dry spell
for the last few weeks so I've been watching my trees closly and
watering when they need it. With temps in the 90s no rain for a more
than a week and all day sun I can't imagine that watering it well once
a day could hurt it...anyway does anyone have suggestions for saving
my new tree.
thanks a bunch,
Ethan
--
Ethan Smith, Columbus, Ohio
USDA Zone 6, Sunset 35 & 41
but wait around, it may feel more like zone 2 or even 9?

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Michael Persiano 08-06-2005 06:58 PM

Ethan:

It sounds like a root zone problem, and it could be root rot.

If the soil is not fast-draining, or it has been excessively watered, it could be irreversibly damaged. Do you know how to treat for root rot disease?

If not, contact me and I will send along a procedure.

Cordially,

Michael Persiano

-----Original Message-----
From: Ethan Smith
To:
Sent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:52:17 -0400
Subject: [IBC] Mugo Pine


Hi everyone, I'm still pretty new to Bonsai, and I have some concerns
about a mugo pine that seems to be pretty stressed.

At the May Columbus Bonsai Society meeting I participated in a Mini
Mugo pine workshop. With some expert help from some very experienced
folks I felt like it had a pretty good chance for survival. We didn't
take off more than about 10% of green, maybe two small twigs of
foliage, and pruned a few meaty roots but nothing crazy. We made sure
to work the soil in really well, wired it a little bit, nothing fancy,
seemed safe to me and looked like it had good potential.

I then put it under a bench for two weeks to recover as instructed,
the bench has half inch slots between boards so it still got a little
bit of sun. I then brought it out and it gets full sun. Now it seems
that the new candles that looked healthy before the workshop are
pretty white and crispy, and some of the mature needles have browned.
Is there any way to tell if I can save it or is it just toast? Any
advice?

The tree seemed like the candles were more developed than other stock
that we could pick from, was this my downfall? Did I pick one that was
too close to hardening off?

Or could I be over watering? We've have had a pretty hot and dry spell
for the last few weeks so I've been watching my trees closly and
watering when they need it. With temps in the 90s no rain for a more
than a week and all day sun I can't imagine that watering it well once
a day could hurt it...anyway does anyone have suggestions for saving
my new tree.
thanks a bunch,
Ethan
--
Ethan Smith, Columbus, Ohio
USDA Zone 6, Sunset 35 & 41
but wait around, it may feel more like zone 2 or even 9?

************************************************** ******************************
++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++
************************************************** ******************************
-- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ:
http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ --
+++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++

************************************************** ******************************
++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++
************************************************** ******************************
-- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ:
http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ --
+++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++

Carl Rosner 08-06-2005 08:17 PM

If you don't get you answer, you might contact Vance Wood: He is an expert on Mugo Pines...

Good luck, Carl L. Rosner

Ethan Smith wrote:
Hi everyone, I'm still pretty new to Bonsai, and I have some concerns
about a mugo pine that seems to be pretty stressed.

At the May Columbus Bonsai Society meeting I participated in a Mini
Mugo pine workshop. With some expert help from some very experienced
folks I felt like it had a pretty good chance for survival. We didn't
take off more than about 10% of green, maybe two small twigs of
foliage, and pruned a few meaty roots but nothing crazy. We made sure
to work the soil in really well, wired it a little bit, nothing fancy,
seemed safe to me and looked like it had good potential.

I then put it under a bench for two weeks to recover as instructed,
the bench has half inch slots between boards so it still got a little
bit of sun. I then brought it out and it gets full sun. Now it seems
that the new candles that looked healthy before the workshop are
pretty white and crispy, and some of the mature needles have browned.
Is there any way to tell if I can save it or is it just toast? Any
advice?

The tree seemed like the candles were more developed than other stock
that we could pick from, was this my downfall? Did I pick one that was
too close to hardening off?

Or could I be over watering? We've have had a pretty hot and dry spell
for the last few weeks so I've been watching my trees closly and
watering when they need it. With temps in the 90s no rain for a more
than a week and all day sun I can't imagine that watering it well once
a day could hurt it...anyway does anyone have suggestions for saving
my new tree.
thanks a bunch,
Ethan
--
Ethan Smith, Columbus, Ohio


Carl L. Rosner - near Atlantic City zone 6/7

www.carlrosner.com
http://www.yessy.com/arteacher3725
http://rosner.becanz.net

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************************************************** ******************************
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+++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++


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