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[email protected] 13-06-2005 04:08 PM

[IBC] Myrtle Bonsai
 
Having killed several, & hopefully learned from my mistakes, I recently
bought another dwarf myrtle (Myrtus communis 'Compacta'). Seeking inspiration on
the Web, I looked for some pictures. Searching on "Myrtle bonsai" brought up
nothing but crape myrtle. Searching on Myrtus communis brought up one decent
specimen from Phoenix. There were a number of pictures from Germany & Austria,
all of them dreadful to an American eye. They were all done in pompoms. Even a
natural unstyled myrtle in Israel looks better (it grows as an upright oval
dense bush). Don't tell me a myrtle can't be styled to look like something with
taste, or can't it?
Iris

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Steve wachs 13-06-2005 04:21 PM

I have seen Mytle Communis sold in herb sections of garden centers. I have
tried this plant with no success.

SteveW


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[email protected] 13-06-2005 04:23 PM

In a message dated 6/13/05 11:21:18 AM, SteveWachs writes:
I have tried this plant with no success.

Oh? What happened? I had a good one years ago, but it was stolen.
Iris

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Steve wachs 13-06-2005 04:34 PM

I don't know what I did wrong with it. it seems I didn't have enough
humidity

SteveW


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[email protected] 13-06-2005 04:35 PM

In a message dated 6/13/05 11:30:57 AM, SteveWachs writes:
it seems I didn't have enough humidity

On Long Island? This is a semi-desert plant. I have found that myrtle tends
to succumb to the following:
root rot from soggy soil
the too much too soon syndrome
lack of a fall or winter rest period.
Iris

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Mike Bennett 13-06-2005 04:41 PM

Interesting phrase "dreadful to an American eye"..are you saying that
Americans always produce exhibition standard bonsai? ;o)

Mike Bennett
http://www.bonsaiartists.co.uk


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From:
To:
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:07 PM
Subject: [IBC] Myrtle Bonsai


Having killed several, & hopefully learned from my mistakes, I recently
bought another dwarf myrtle (Myrtus communis 'Compacta'). Seeking

inspiration on
the Web, I looked for some pictures. Searching on "Myrtle bonsai" brought

up
nothing but crape myrtle. Searching on Myrtus communis brought up one

decent
specimen from Phoenix. There were a number of pictures from Germany &

Austria,
all of them dreadful to an American eye. They were all done in pompoms.

Even a
natural unstyled myrtle in Israel looks better (it grows as an upright

oval
dense bush). Don't tell me a myrtle can't be styled to look like something

with
taste, or can't it?
Iris


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Steve wachs 13-06-2005 05:24 PM

I kept it indoors. I think i bought it in winter. it never made to the
summer, to move it outside

SteveW


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Isom, Jeff , EM, PTL 13-06-2005 06:41 PM

Well, since I am an American and have produced some Bonsai (kinda,
sorta); I'll answer that with a big resounding "NO."

Jeff Isom
Cleveland, OH

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.... that Americans always produce exhibition standard bonsai? ;o)

Mike Bennett
http://www.bonsaiartists.co.uk

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[email protected] 14-06-2005 01:20 PM

In a message dated 6/13/05 11:43:17 AM, writes:
Interesting phrase "dreadful to an American eye"..are you saying that
Americans always produce exhibition standard bonsai?

Don't be silly. I am assuming that since they took pictures of these trees
and posted them on the Web, they are considered "exhibition standard" in Europe.
I also assume that the pompom effect is considered desirable in that region.
It is a matter of taste. I have seen pictures of high quality pine bonsai in
Japan with the needles clipped short. That's their taste. In this country we
wouldn't dream of it (I hope), not even on Ponderosa pines.
Iris

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elize marie mann 14-06-2005 01:34 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: "elize marie mann"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: [IBC] Myrtle Bonsai


Iris, the needleclipping is just one of the techniques in trying to get a
shorter growth on the new needles.
Not for exhibition!!!
And under the best of sircumstances not to be done more often then every
two years.
elize

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To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 PM
Subject: [IBC] Myrtle Bonsai


In a message dated 6/13/05 11:43:17 AM, writes:
Interesting phrase "dreadful to an American eye"..are you saying that
Americans always produce exhibition standard bonsai?

Don't be silly. I am assuming that since they took pictures of these
trees
and posted them on the Web, they are considered "exhibition standard" in
Europe.
I also assume that the pompom effect is considered desirable in that
region.
It is a matter of taste. I have seen pictures of high quality pine bonsai
in
Japan with the needles clipped short. That's their taste. In this country
we
wouldn't dream of it (I hope), not even on Ponderosa pines.
Iris

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Alan Walker 14-06-2005 02:55 PM

I know that we Americans are not that homogenous in our
tastes and standards, and I think it is foolish to assume that
Europeans are anything but just as diverse. What is posted one
someone's site reflects their standards and not necessarily those
of the rest of their country or continent.

Alan Walker
http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org

In a message dated 6/13/05 11:43:17 AM,
writes:
Interesting phrase "dreadful to an American eye"...Are you saying
that Americans always produce exhibition standard bonsai?

-----Original Message-----
From:


Don't be silly. I am assuming that since they took pictures of
these trees and posted them on the Web, they are considered
"exhibition standard" in Europe.
I also assume that the pompom effect is considered desirable in
that region.
It is a matter of taste. I have seen pictures of high quality
pine bonsai in
Japan with the needles clipped short. That's their taste. In this
country we
wouldn't dream of it (I hope), not even on Ponderosa pines.
Iris

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Shelly Hurd 15-06-2005 11:54 PM

Iris,
Not sure it's still there, but Ernie Kuo had a spectacular myrtus on his
site (or did the last time I went there). I have four currently in
development and love them (they are different though - but NO POM POMS
either). I was fortunate enough some years ago to receive a 40 or 50 year
old myrtus that I brought home and planted in the back yard, I've been
air-layering the branches off since. Enjoy it, at least they smell good
when you prune them.
Regards,
Shelly Hurd - Central CA - Sunset Zone 8-USDA Zone 9



----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: [IBC] Myrtle Bonsai


Having killed several, & hopefully learned from my mistakes, I recently
bought another dwarf myrtle (Myrtus communis 'Compacta'). Seeking

inspiration on
the Web, I looked for some pictures. Searching on "Myrtle bonsai" brought

up
nothing but crape myrtle. Searching on Myrtus communis brought up one

decent
specimen from Phoenix. There were a number of pictures from Germany &

Austria,
all of them dreadful to an American eye. They were all done in pompoms.

Even a
natural unstyled myrtle in Israel looks better (it grows as an upright

oval
dense bush). Don't tell me a myrtle can't be styled to look like something

with
taste, or can't it?
Iris


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Mike Bennett 03-07-2005 10:41 PM

Just to let you know that the auction for these Limited Edition calendars
closes in just under 3 days time. Since I may not get the opportunity to
list any more of these, it is possible that this is the last time many of
you will get the chance to purchase one.
Designed by Dan Barton, and limited to only 200 copies, the calendar comes
complete with a genuine Japanese scroll.
The address is as follows:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...rd=1&sspage n
ame=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

Please note, this is not a commercial venture on my part, proceeds from this
sale go to the Association of British Bonsai Artists, details of which can
be found by following the link on my signature.

Thanks for reading this, and my apologies for those who do not find this of
interest.

Mike Bennett
http://www.bonsaiartists.co.uk

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