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Tiffany 14-02-2003 10:15 AM

Pruning Fruit Trees
 
hello does anyone have any good information on Pruning Fruit Trees? thanks










Sherwin Dubren 14-02-2003 11:51 PM

Pruning Fruit Trees
 
Hi Tiffany,
Try the following web sites:

http://www.redwoodbarn.com/DE_DormPrunefruit.html

http://www.crfg.org/tidbits/backyardorchard.html

and
http://muextension.missouri.edu/xplo...ort/g06030.htm

Hope this helps,

Sherwin Dubren
MIDFEX (Midwest Fruit Explorers)

Tiffany wrote:

hello does anyone have any good information on Pruning Fruit Trees? thanks


Tiffany 15-02-2003 10:03 PM

Pruning Fruit Trees
 
thank you all for the information
Sherwin Dubren wrote in message
...
Hi Tiffany,
Try the following web sites:

http://www.redwoodbarn.com/DE_DormPrunefruit.html

http://www.crfg.org/tidbits/backyardorchard.html

and
http://muextension.missouri.edu/xplo...ort/g06030.htm

Hope this helps,

Sherwin Dubren
MIDFEX (Midwest Fruit Explorers)

Tiffany wrote:

hello does anyone have any good information on Pruning Fruit Trees?

thanks




permaculturebr 22-02-2003 10:51 AM

Pruning Fruit Trees
 
Hae you seen this stuff on own root fruit trees and the coppice
orchard idea?

This project is based on the formerly unpublished work of Hugh Ermen,
formerly of Brogdale Horticultural Experimental Station and now
retired and breeding new varieties of fruit trees. Hugh discovered
that there are several advantages in growing apples on their own roots
[OR], i.e. not grafted onto a rootstock. (See below for pamphlets by
Hugh Ermen)

The advantages a -

better health - although not altering the basic susceptibility of the
variety to disease -

fruit development is typical of the variety, giving:-

best possible flavour

best storage life -

typical fruit size for the variety -

best overall fruit quality - best fruit set, given adequate
pollination.

fruit from OR trees have more seeds, indicating increased fertility.

It is highly likely that the degree of self-fertility is increased.


The only disadvantage of OR trees is that most varieties are more
vigorous than is usually wanted. This means that trees may make a lot
of wood at the expense of fruit bud production, giving big trees that
take a long time to come into crop. Conventionally this vigour would
be controlled by grafting onto a dwarfing rootstock. With OR trees a
number of traditional techniques are used to induce early cropping.
Once cropping begins the tree's energies are channeled into fruit
production and growth slows down to a controllable level.

for more try http://members.lycos.co.uk/orft

Art Salmons 12-03-2003 07:09 PM

Pruning Fruit Trees
 
"Tiffany" wrote in message .. .
hello does anyone have any good information on Pruning Fruit Trees? thanks


I need advice on pruning 2 super sweet Peach trees. I bought them from
Lowes and they are already in bloom and the leaves are coming out all
over the tree. According to the book I bought on fruit trees, I'm
suppose to prune this tree by cutting off the main trunk 30 inches off
of the ground and then cutting back the branches in a cup shape. My
question is it too late to do that this year and should I wait until
next spring. I don't want to kill the 2 of them by such a severve
pruning if it's the wrong time.

Thanks,

Art Salmons

Dwayne 13-03-2003 04:08 AM

Pruning Fruit Trees
 
Don't do it now. It has to be done when the trees are dormant. I wouldn't
cut the main trunk as instructed in the book, unless the tree is really
badly shaped (bent over to one side, all the branches on one side, or
growing crooked).

Peaches, apricots, and nectarines need sun to be able to shine on the center
of the tree. I prune mine to open it up on the south side. I remove any
branches that grow straight up, toward the center, down, or toward another
branch. You must take off all dead wood also. Cut above a bud that is
facing the direction you want the tree to go. Cut at an angle so water will
run off and not set on the limb end exposed by pruning. I live in Kansas
and prune mine anywhere from December to March.

Your trees will form their buds for next year during the winter. Peaches
form on new wood, so you can prune it a lot if you need to.

I look at my trees and imagine what I want them to look like in 20 years,
and then start pruning them to form that shape.

Have fun. Dwayne


"Art Salmons" wrote in message
om...
"Tiffany" wrote in message

.. .
hello does anyone have any good information on Pruning Fruit Trees?

thanks

I need advice on pruning 2 super sweet Peach trees. I bought them from
Lowes and they are already in bloom and the leaves are coming out all
over the tree. According to the book I bought on fruit trees, I'm
suppose to prune this tree by cutting off the main trunk 30 inches off
of the ground and then cutting back the branches in a cup shape. My
question is it too late to do that this year and should I wait until
next spring. I don't want to kill the 2 of them by such a severve
pruning if it's the wrong time.

Thanks,

Art Salmons




Polar 13-03-2003 05:45 AM

Pruning Fruit Trees
 
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:06:14 -0700, "Dwayne" wrote:

Don't do it now. It has to be done when the trees are dormant. I wouldn't
cut the main trunk as instructed in the book, unless the tree is really
badly shaped (bent over to one side, all the branches on one side, or
growing crooked).

Peaches, apricots, and nectarines need sun to be able to shine on the center
of the tree. I prune mine to open it up on the south side. I remove any
branches that grow straight up, toward the center, down, or toward another
branch. You must take off all dead wood also. Cut above a bud that is
facing the direction you want the tree to go. Cut at an angle so water will
run off and not set on the limb end exposed by pruning. I live in Kansas
and prune mine anywhere from December to March.

Your trees will form their buds for next year during the winter. Peaches
form on new wood, so you can prune it a lot if you need to.


Note that the "new wood" has a reddish cast, so easy to distinguish
from last year's wood.



I look at my trees and imagine what I want them to look like in 20 years,
and then start pruning them to form that shape.

Have fun. Dwayne


"Art Salmons" wrote in message
. com...
"Tiffany" wrote in message

. ..
hello does anyone have any good information on Pruning Fruit Trees?

thanks

I need advice on pruning 2 super sweet Peach trees. I bought them from
Lowes and they are already in bloom and the leaves are coming out all
over the tree. According to the book I bought on fruit trees, I'm
suppose to prune this tree by cutting off the main trunk 30 inches off
of the ground and then cutting back the branches in a cup shape. My
question is it too late to do that this year and should I wait until
next spring. I don't want to kill the 2 of them by such a severve
pruning if it's the wrong time.

Thanks,

Art Salmons



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Polar

Art Salmons 13-03-2003 12:56 PM

Pruning Fruit Trees
 
Polar wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:06:14 -0700, "Dwayne" wrote:


I went by the local peach orchard yesterday and looked at their trees
and they have the center trunk pruned off about 30 to 36 inches from
the ground. From there the branches seem to come out and go up forming
a cup like shape. I don't need to have this shape unless it's
neccessary or better. The trees right now have a nice shape that will
need some pruning to open it up. They will need some training to get
the branches straighter out from the trunk. These are really nice
trees and are really healthy and doing well. I will wait until next
spring before the trees bud or push leaves to do the pruning.

I also planted 2 other peach trees and they are already cut into the
nore traditional shape shown in the book. They are a Georgia Belle and
a Hale Haven.

I also planted 5 Apple trees and 3 Cherry trees. The Cherry trees are
a Stella, Bing, and a Black Tartarian. The Apple trees are 2 Granny
Smith, 1 Yellow Delicious, 1 Stayman Winesap, and 1 Jonathan. The book
I'm using as a reference is the "The Backyard Orchardist" by Stella
Otto. These are the first fruit trees that we ever had so I'm really
new at this and I appreciate the help.

Thanks, Art

Don't do it now. It has to be done when the trees are dormant. I wouldn't
cut the main trunk as instructed in the book, unless the tree is really
badly shaped (bent over to one side, all the branches on one side, or
growing crooked).





Peaches, apricots, and nectarines need sun to be able to shine on the center
of the tree. I prune mine to open it up on the south side. I remove any
branches that grow straight up, toward the center, down, or toward another
branch. You must take off all dead wood also. Cut above a bud that is
facing the direction you want the tree to go. Cut at an angle so water will
run off and not set on the limb end exposed by pruning. I live in Kansas
and prune mine anywhere from December to March.

Your trees will form their buds for next year during the winter. Peaches
form on new wood, so you can prune it a lot if you need to.


Note that the "new wood" has a reddish cast, so easy to distinguish
from last year's wood.



I look at my trees and imagine what I want them to look like in 20 years,
and then start pruning them to form that shape.




Have fun. Dwayne


"Art Salmons" wrote in message
. com...
"Tiffany" wrote in message

.. .
hello does anyone have any good information on Pruning Fruit Trees?

thanks

I need advice on pruning 2 super sweet Peach trees. I bought them from
Lowes and they are already in bloom and the leaves are coming out all
over the tree. According to the book I bought on fruit trees, I'm
suppose to prune this tree by cutting off the main trunk 30 inches off
of the ground and then cutting back the branches in a cup shape. My
question is it too late to do that this year and should I wait until
next spring. I don't want to kill the 2 of them by such a severve
pruning if it's the wrong time.

Thanks,

Art Salmons



Dwayne 13-03-2003 01:20 PM

Pruning Fruit Trees
 
Art, you don't open up trees like I described unless they are peach or in
the peach family. Apple, cherry, pear, plum, Etc. are pruned differently.
Everything is about the same, except opening them up to the sun. Since you
have all new trees you have the perfect situation. You have a long time to
get them into shape and don't have to do it all in one year.

I am not sure about cherry, plum or pear, but apples grow on two year old
wood. They also should be shaped so they look nice and somewhat resemble
the traditional Christmas tree (long limbs on the bottom and progressively
getting shorter as you go up). The plum trees I have seen haven't looked
that way.

Now is the time for you to learn about insects and other things that will
kill your trees. Peach tree borers and hard to control, and will go after
your peach and sweet cherry trees. I am nut sure about plums, but haven't
had any sign of them around apples.

Depending on where you are, winter time is when deer and rabbits eat your
small trees. By then you should have chicken wire up around the trees to
keep out rabbits. Cant tell you about what to do for deer.

Have fun. Dwayne


"Art Salmons" wrote in message
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Polar wrote in message

. ..
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:06:14 -0700, "Dwayne" wrote:


I went by the local peach orchard yesterday and looked at their trees
and they have the center trunk pruned off about 30 to 36 inches from
the ground. From there the branches seem to come out and go up forming
a cup like shape. I don't need to have this shape unless it's
neccessary or better. The trees right now have a nice shape that will
need some pruning to open it up. They will need some training to get
the branches straighter out from the trunk. These are really nice
trees and are really healthy and doing well. I will wait until next
spring before the trees bud or push leaves to do the pruning.

I also planted 2 other peach trees and they are already cut into the
nore traditional shape shown in the book. They are a Georgia Belle and
a Hale Haven.

I also planted 5 Apple trees and 3 Cherry trees. The Cherry trees are
a Stella, Bing, and a Black Tartarian. The Apple trees are 2 Granny
Smith, 1 Yellow Delicious, 1 Stayman Winesap, and 1 Jonathan. The book
I'm using as a reference is the "The Backyard Orchardist" by Stella
Otto. These are the first fruit trees that we ever had so I'm really
new at this and I appreciate the help.

Thanks, Art

Don't do it now. It has to be done when the trees are dormant. I

wouldn't
cut the main trunk as instructed in the book, unless the tree is really
badly shaped (bent over to one side, all the branches on one side, or
growing crooked).





Peaches, apricots, and nectarines need sun to be able to shine on the

center
of the tree. I prune mine to open it up on the south side. I remove

any
branches that grow straight up, toward the center, down, or toward

another
branch. You must take off all dead wood also. Cut above a bud that is
facing the direction you want the tree to go. Cut at an angle so water

will
run off and not set on the limb end exposed by pruning. I live in

Kansas
and prune mine anywhere from December to March.

Your trees will form their buds for next year during the winter.

Peaches
form on new wood, so you can prune it a lot if you need to.


Note that the "new wood" has a reddish cast, so easy to distinguish
from last year's wood.



I look at my trees and imagine what I want them to look like in 20

years,
and then start pruning them to form that shape.




Have fun. Dwayne


"Art Salmons" wrote in message
. com...
"Tiffany" wrote in message

.. .
hello does anyone have any good information on Pruning Fruit Trees?

thanks

I need advice on pruning 2 super sweet Peach trees. I bought them

from
Lowes and they are already in bloom and the leaves are coming out all
over the tree. According to the book I bought on fruit trees, I'm
suppose to prune this tree by cutting off the main trunk 30 inches

off
of the ground and then cutting back the branches in a cup shape. My
question is it too late to do that this year and should I wait until
next spring. I don't want to kill the 2 of them by such a severve
pruning if it's the wrong time.

Thanks,

Art Salmons




Larry Blanchard 13-03-2003 05:20 PM

Pruning Fruit Trees
 
In article ,
says...
"Tiffany" wrote in message .. .
hello does anyone have any good information on Pruning Fruit Trees? thanks


I need advice on pruning 2 super sweet Peach trees. I bought them from
Lowes and they are already in bloom and the leaves are coming out all
over the tree. According to the book I bought on fruit trees, I'm
suppose to prune this tree by cutting off the main trunk 30 inches off
of the ground and then cutting back the branches in a cup shape.


Don't do it now - the tree has to be dormant.

I don't know how large your tree is, but many years ago I bought my first
peach tree through the mail from Starks. It was about 5' high with
several branches. I still remember the pruning instructions that came
with it. They ended with "The effect you want is that of a stubby
flagpole."

I figured it'd kill the tree, but I turned it into a stubby flagpole.
The tree grew so great and had so much fruit that I had to prop up the
branches by the end of the year :-).

--
It's turtles - all the way down!


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