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Sam 08-05-2007 07:05 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
We also have 2 cats. I plan to lay chicken wire on top of the soil.
Is this a good method? Has anyone tried a motion detector water
sprayer? My husband refuses to put chicken wire around the garden (as
a fence), for aesthetic reasons.

http://www.gardeners.com/Animal-Repe...ult/05-497.prd

or

Contech SCARECROW Motion Animal Control Sprinkler


cloud dreamer[_3_] 08-05-2007 07:16 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
Sam wrote:
We also have 2 cats. I plan to lay chicken wire on top of the soil.
Is this a good method? Has anyone tried a motion detector water
sprayer? My husband refuses to put chicken wire around the garden (as
a fence), for aesthetic reasons.




Laying chicken wire works if done properly. The cats don't like to tread
on the narrow wire and can't dig through it. Just lay the wire down and
stick the seeds down in the holes where you want it. The plants will
grow up through the holes.

Standing chicken wire around won't always work as I've seen cats jump my
four foot wire.

..

Zone 5b in Canada's Far East.

Sue[_2_] 09-05-2007 01:30 AM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
On 8 May 2007 11:05:28 -0700, Sam wrote:

We also have 2 cats. I plan to lay chicken wire on top of the soil.
Is this a good method? Has anyone tried a motion detector water
sprayer? My husband refuses to put chicken wire around the garden (as
a fence), for aesthetic reasons.

http://www.gardeners.com/Animal-Repe...ult/05-497.prd

or

Contech SCARECROW Motion Animal Control Sprinkler


I used chicken wire to keep the cat out of the peas. Seemed to work
OK. Cat died so I don't have to worry about that anymore unless the
neighbors get another one.
Sue

William Rose 09-05-2007 02:25 AM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
In article ,
Sue wrote:

On 8 May 2007 11:05:28 -0700, Sam wrote:

We also have 2 cats. I plan to lay chicken wire on top of the soil.
Is this a good method? Has anyone tried a motion detector water
sprayer?


Yeah, and it works for fine on five cats and two dogs. You don't even
have to leave it on all the time. Once they know it's there (2 days
max), occasional use, just to show the colors, so to speak, is
sufficient.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

Dave 09-05-2007 05:56 AM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
"Sam" wrote in message
ups.com...
We also have 2 cats. I plan to lay chicken wire on top of the soil.
Is this a good method? Has anyone tried a motion detector water
sprayer? My husband refuses to put chicken wire around the garden (as
a fence), for aesthetic reasons.

http://www.gardeners.com/Animal-Repe...ult/05-497.prd

or

Contech SCARECROW Motion Animal Control Sprinkler


3 wire high solar-powered electric fence should do the trick. Standard
T-posts will work to hold the insulators. Both common in rural areas.
Keeps my dogs at bay. They used to dig underneath the fence.
Warden Dave



William Rose 09-05-2007 02:18 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
In article . net,
"Dave" wrote:

Has anyone tried a motion detector water sprayer?


They are particularly nice on hot days when you forget that they are on.
The spray pattern can be set and there is an sensitivity (low to high)
knob that allows you to turn it off when you work in the area. The
"Hounds from Hell" no longer dig in my lettuce patch (Who keeps barking
when the day is done? Who digs up the garden just for fun? psycho-dogs,
psycho-dogs.) and our pride of cats have had to find another toilet with
harder ground.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

[email protected] 09-05-2007 07:25 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
On Wed, 09 May 2007 06:18:55 -0700, William Rose
wrote:

In article . net,
"Dave" wrote:

Has anyone tried a motion detector water sprayer?


They are particularly nice on hot days when you forget that they are on.
The spray pattern can be set and there is an sensitivity (low to high)
knob that allows you to turn it off when you work in the area. The
"Hounds from Hell" no longer dig in my lettuce patch (Who keeps barking
when the day is done? Who digs up the garden just for fun? psycho-dogs,
psycho-dogs.) and our pride of cats have had to find another toilet with
harder ground.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


Has anybody tried orange peel (or other citrus fruits) ? Cats hate
citrus. I cut up my orange peels and strew them strategically among
the plants. Seems to work OK. I think there are even commercial
products sold incorporating the cats-hate-citrus principle.

Persephone

Omelet 10-05-2007 12:22 AM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
In article ,
wrote:

On Wed, 09 May 2007 06:18:55 -0700, William Rose
wrote:

In article . net,
"Dave" wrote:

Has anyone tried a motion detector water sprayer?


They are particularly nice on hot days when you forget that they are on.
The spray pattern can be set and there is an sensitivity (low to high)
knob that allows you to turn it off when you work in the area. The
"Hounds from Hell" no longer dig in my lettuce patch (Who keeps barking
when the day is done? Who digs up the garden just for fun? psycho-dogs,
psycho-dogs.) and our pride of cats have had to find another toilet with
harder ground.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


Has anybody tried orange peel (or other citrus fruits) ? Cats hate
citrus. I cut up my orange peels and strew them strategically among
the plants. Seems to work OK. I think there are even commercial
products sold incorporating the cats-hate-citrus principle.

Persephone


That's an interesting idea!

I might have to try that for "behavior modification" here.
While I've managed to train them to stay off of the kitchen counters and
stove top using upside down mouse traps, the dining room table is still
an area of contention.

Perhaps adding oranges or even lemons to the fruit bowl might work. ;-)
I use more lemons than I do oranges for cooking.
--
Peace, Om

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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

Dave 10-05-2007 01:34 AM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 May 2007 06:18:55 -0700, William Rose
wrote:

In article . net,
"Dave" wrote:

Has anyone tried a motion detector water sprayer?


They are particularly nice on hot days when you forget that they are on.
The spray pattern can be set and there is an sensitivity (low to high)
knob that allows you to turn it off when you work in the area. The
"Hounds from Hell" no longer dig in my lettuce patch (Who keeps barking
when the day is done? Who digs up the garden just for fun? psycho-dogs,
psycho-dogs.) and our pride of cats have had to find another toilet with
harder ground.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


Has anybody tried orange peel (or other citrus fruits) ? Cats hate
citrus. I cut up my orange peels and strew them strategically among
the plants. Seems to work OK. I think there are even commercial
products sold incorporating the cats-hate-citrus principle.

Persephone


May work for domestic and ferrel cats. Won't work for whitetailed deer.
Attract instead. Go electric.
Dave



William Rose 10-05-2007 04:33 AM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
In article . net,
"Dave" wrote:

May work for domestic and ferrel cats. Won't work for whitetailed deer.
Attract instead. Go electric.
Dave


Dave we were talking cats, not whitetail deer, tule elk, giraffes or,
Bush Elephants. For Bush Elephants, I would use orange peels.

You writing this down?

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

Charles Quinn 10-05-2007 06:23 AM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
Sam wrote in news:1178647528.718999.238570
@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

We also have 2 cats. I plan to lay chicken wire on top of the soil.
Is this a good method? Has anyone tried a motion detector water
sprayer? My husband refuses to put chicken wire around the garden (as
a fence), for aesthetic reasons.

http://www.gardeners.com/Animal-Repe...ult/05-497.prd


Eat some oranges, place the peels in a blender with some water. Puree
them, then spread around the edge of the garden. Repeat application
often.



--

Charles
The significant problems we face cannot be solved
at the same level of thinking we were at when we
created them. Albert Einstein


Dave 10-05-2007 12:28 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
"William Rose" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
"Dave" wrote:

May work for domestic and ferrel cats. Won't work for whitetailed deer.
Attract instead. Go electric.
Dave


Dave we were talking cats, not whitetail deer, tule elk, giraffes or,
Bush Elephants. For Bush Elephants, I would use orange peels.

You writing this down?

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


Mind kinda drifted off there for a minute. Neither will work on geese. g
Dave



[email protected] 10-05-2007 05:54 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
On Wed, 09 May 2007 18:22:58 -0500, Omelet
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Wed, 09 May 2007 06:18:55 -0700, William Rose
wrote:

In article . net,
"Dave" wrote:

Has anyone tried a motion detector water sprayer?

They are particularly nice on hot days when you forget that they are on.
The spray pattern can be set and there is an sensitivity (low to high)
knob that allows you to turn it off when you work in the area. The
"Hounds from Hell" no longer dig in my lettuce patch (Who keeps barking
when the day is done? Who digs up the garden just for fun? psycho-dogs,
psycho-dogs.) and our pride of cats have had to find another toilet with
harder ground.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


Has anybody tried orange peel (or other citrus fruits) ? Cats hate
citrus. I cut up my orange peels and strew them strategically among
the plants. Seems to work OK. I think there are even commercial
products sold incorporating the cats-hate-citrus principle.

Persephone


That's an interesting idea!

I might have to try that for "behavior modification" here.
While I've managed to train them to stay off of the kitchen counters and
stove top using upside down mouse traps, the dining room table is still
an area of contention.


If the table won't be damaged by water, use the trusty spray bottle
to convey your message.

Spray bottle indoors or water hose outdoors: Cats will grok.

Anecdote: Neighbor (not a nice person from way back) turned me in to
the animal control folks because my cat had committed a heinous crime:
He lay down on a leaf of a plant in this guy's big planter!!!! Caused
me no end of distress as I was just leaving for China, and my house
matewas in the hospital with a heart attack. Who feed cat??? Point
is, neighbor could easily have deterred the cat permanently with a
blast from the hose.

Perhaps adding oranges or even lemons to the fruit bowl might work. ;-)
I use more lemons than I do oranges for cooking.


You'd need to cut up the fruit to release that cat-repelling parfum.

Persephone


William Rose 10-05-2007 06:48 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
In article ,
wrote:

Point
is, neighbor could easily have deterred the cat permanently with a
blast from the hose.


If they are anything like my cats and dogs, they will learn not to do it
while you are around. Like the dead of night.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (especially with cats and dogs)

Omelet 10-05-2007 08:53 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
In article ,
wrote:

That's an interesting idea!

I might have to try that for "behavior modification" here.
While I've managed to train them to stay off of the kitchen counters and
stove top using upside down mouse traps, the dining room table is still
an area of contention.


If the table won't be damaged by water, use the trusty spray bottle
to convey your message.

Spray bottle indoors or water hose outdoors: Cats will grok.


The problem is is that they know better. That's why the water pistol
won't work. The upside down mousetraps are "remote training". ;-)


Anecdote: Neighbor (not a nice person from way back) turned me in to
the animal control folks because my cat had committed a heinous crime:
He lay down on a leaf of a plant in this guy's big planter!!!! Caused
me no end of distress as I was just leaving for China, and my house
matewas in the hospital with a heart attack. Who feed cat??? Point
is, neighbor could easily have deterred the cat permanently with a
blast from the hose.


There is a jerk born every minute. :-(


Perhaps adding oranges or even lemons to the fruit bowl might work. ;-)
I use more lemons than I do oranges for cooking.


You'd need to cut up the fruit to release that cat-repelling parfum.

Persephone


I see. Okay, when I squeeze a lemon, I'll leave the peel on the table
for awhile before it goes into the compost. ;-)
--
Peace, Om

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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

Omelet 10-05-2007 08:54 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
In article
,
William Rose wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

Point
is, neighbor could easily have deterred the cat permanently with a
blast from the hose.


If they are anything like my cats and dogs, they will learn not to do it
while you are around. Like the dead of night.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (especially with cats and dogs)


Precisely.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

John Savage 14-05-2007 01:23 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
Charles Quinn writes:
Sam wrote in news:1178647528.718999.238570
:

We also have 2 cats. I plan to lay chicken wire on top of the soil.
Is this a good method? Has anyone tried a motion detector water
sprayer? My husband refuses to put chicken wire around the garden (as
a fence), for aesthetic reasons.

http://www.gardeners.com/Animal-Repe...ult/05-497.prd


Eat some oranges, place the peels in a blender with some water. Puree
them, then spread around the edge of the garden. Repeat application
often.


Even if the smell of citrus is a deterrent to cats, I suspect that
pureed peel would need frequent re-application. An alternative would be
living plants of the herb rue (unless you are in an area of unfavourable
climate for herbs). It grows readily from a slip. Cats are reputed to
find its odour detestable. Rue is not a culinary herb, unfortunately.

Two plantings might be the answer: plant some catnip in an area where
it's okay for the cats to dig, and plant lots of rue among the plants
in areas where you want them to avoid.

A waterpistol filled with a citronella spray should give the cats a
lasting reminder of where they are not wanted, when you catch them on
the garden.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

Omelet 14-05-2007 02:07 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
In article ,
The Cook wrote:

On Mon, 14 May 2007 12:23:06 GMT, John Savage
wrote:

Charles Quinn writes:
Sam wrote in news:1178647528.718999.238570
:

We also have 2 cats. I plan to lay chicken wire on top of the soil.
Is this a good method? Has anyone tried a motion detector water
sprayer? My husband refuses to put chicken wire around the garden (as
a fence), for aesthetic reasons.

http://www.gardeners.com/Animal-Repe...ult/05-497.prd

Eat some oranges, place the peels in a blender with some water. Puree
them, then spread around the edge of the garden. Repeat application
often.


Even if the smell of citrus is a deterrent to cats, I suspect that
pureed peel would need frequent re-application. An alternative would be
living plants of the herb rue (unless you are in an area of unfavourable
climate for herbs). It grows readily from a slip. Cats are reputed to
find its odour detestable. Rue is not a culinary herb, unfortunately.

Cats are not the only ones who find the odor of Rue detestable. Stinks
to high heaven and does not deter the cats.


My cats don't like rosemary...
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

The Cook 14-05-2007 02:59 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
On Mon, 14 May 2007 12:23:06 GMT, John Savage
wrote:

Charles Quinn writes:
Sam wrote in news:1178647528.718999.238570
:

We also have 2 cats. I plan to lay chicken wire on top of the soil.
Is this a good method? Has anyone tried a motion detector water
sprayer? My husband refuses to put chicken wire around the garden (as
a fence), for aesthetic reasons.

http://www.gardeners.com/Animal-Repe...ult/05-497.prd


Eat some oranges, place the peels in a blender with some water. Puree
them, then spread around the edge of the garden. Repeat application
often.


Even if the smell of citrus is a deterrent to cats, I suspect that
pureed peel would need frequent re-application. An alternative would be
living plants of the herb rue (unless you are in an area of unfavourable
climate for herbs). It grows readily from a slip. Cats are reputed to
find its odour detestable. Rue is not a culinary herb, unfortunately.

Cats are not the only ones who find the odor of Rue detestable. Stinks
to high heaven and does not deter the cats.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

John Savage 22-05-2007 02:11 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
The Cook writes:
On Mon, 14 May 2007 12:23:06 GMT, John Savage
wrote:
Even if the smell of citrus is a deterrent to cats, I suspect that
pureed peel would need frequent re-application. An alternative would be
living plants of the herb rue (unless you are in an area of unfavourable
climate for herbs). It grows readily from a slip. Cats are reputed to
find its odour detestable. Rue is not a culinary herb, unfortunately.

Cats are not the only ones who find the odor of Rue detestable. Stinks
to high heaven and does not deter the cats.


Odour deterrents are probably dependent on the cats and the incentive
for them to go where you don't want them to, but a search of google
for cats and rue shows plenty of hits. Other herb scents come to light,
including lavender, pennyroyal, geranium and coleus canina. Another
interesting suggestion is to spread dog hair clippings where you want the
cats to keep off, so gardeners near a dog clipping salon might be well-
placed to make use of this. (The hair will in turn break down into
nutrients, so your garden will benefit in two ways.)

I also read on one website this recipe:
a mixture that is easily made and will keep away just about anything
on four paws. It's two parts cayenne pepper, three parts dry
mustard and five parts flour. Mix together and sprinkle on areas
where you don't want cats.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

James 22-05-2007 07:58 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
Why are the cats in your garden the first place? Maybe they're
hunting vermin.

I have mixed feelings about the friendly cat that frequents my plot.
On the one hand I'll probably not get as many bean eating pests that
mow down my bean seedlings. Maybe it will even chase away pests that
raid ripe tomatoes. Of down side is of course if the cat decides to
dig among my seedlings. Haven't seen it digging yet but it's been
walking on top of tiny seedlings. Maybe I should plant some catnip so
it would limit itself there.

Too bad cats don't stay within the fenced plot as a dog might.
Raiding pests will probably zoom in as soon as the cat wonders.


James 22-05-2007 08:23 PM

keeping my cats out of my garden
 
Why are the cats in your garden the first place? Maybe they're
hunting vermint.

I have mixed feelings about the friendly cat that frequents my plot.
On the one hand I'll probably not get as many bean eating pests that
mow down my bean seedlings. Maybe it will even chase away pests that
raid ripe tomatoes. Of down side is of course if the cat desides to
dig among my seedlings. Haven't seen it digging yet but it's been
walking on top of tiny seedlings. Maybe I should plant some catnip so
it would limit itself there.

Too bad cats don't stay within the fenced plot as a dog might.
Raiding pests will probably zoom in as soon as the cat wonders.



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