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James 26-06-2007 03:00 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.

There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.


George Shirley 26-06-2007 04:32 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
James wrote:
I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.

There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.

We use two people with a pole about 10-12 feet long each. At the end of
the pole I used a saw and cut a Y. The Y holds the netting while you get
it up and over the top. Put the netting on after the fruit sets but
before it gets any bigger. Pull the netting together at the base of the
tree and tie it loosely around the trunk. This spring was the first time
I netted my fruit trees and also the first time I beat the squirrels and
the grackles to the fruit. I would shoot the tree rats but I live in a
town that has, unwisely, proclaimed itself a "wildlife refuge." The old
biddy next door puts out corn on the cob for the tree rats and they
bring it over to my place and drop it all over the place. Occasionally
my Rat Terrier gets a squirrel and that's legal but not enough to please
me when there's twenty of them after my garden and fruit. Not to mention
the electrical transformers they commit suicide with blowing up. HTH

George


Billy Rose 26-06-2007 05:01 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
In article . com,
James wrote:

I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.

There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.


Well, if'n you enjoyed a nip now and then, there is that ol' Itralian
trick of putting a bottle over the very young fruit, taping it closed,
and taping it to the tree branch. When the fruit is ripe, snip off the
brance and remove it from the bottle, add fresh water to the bottle and
swirl it around a few times to remove any dust, drain, and then fill
with Pear William, and cork. Then you have a pear in a bottle of pear
brandy that makes a nice gift, or conversational piece with digestives.
Conversation being the difference between eating and dining.
--
Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

James 26-06-2007 07:07 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
On Jun 26, 11:32 am, George Shirley wrote:
James wrote:
I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.


There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.


We use two people with a pole about 10-12 feet long each. At the end of
the pole I used a saw and cut a Y. The Y holds the netting while you get
it up and over the top. Put the netting on after the fruit sets but
before it gets any bigger. Pull the netting together at the base of the
tree and tie it loosely around the trunk. This spring was the first time
I netted my fruit trees and also the first time I beat the squirrels and
the grackles to the fruit. I would shoot the tree rats but I live in a
town that has, unwisely, proclaimed itself a "wildlife refuge." The old
biddy next door puts out corn on the cob for the tree rats and they
bring it over to my place and drop it all over the place. Occasionally
my Rat Terrier gets a squirrel and that's legal but not enough to please
me when there's twenty of them after my garden and fruit. Not to mention
the electrical transformers they commit suicide with blowing up. HTH

George


I think I'd leave the net over the tree once in place. Fruit theives
can have any fruit that set over the net.


James 26-06-2007 07:08 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
On Jun 26, 12:01 pm, Billy Rose wrote:
In article . com,

James wrote:
I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.


There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.


Well, if'n you enjoyed a nip now and then, there is that ol' Itralian
trick of putting a bottle over the very young fruit, taping it closed,
and taping it to the tree branch. When the fruit is ripe, snip off the
brance and remove it from the bottle, add fresh water to the bottle and
swirl it around a few times to remove any dust, drain, and then fill
with Pear William, and cork. Then you have a pear in a bottle of pear
brandy that makes a nice gift, or conversational piece with digestives.
Conversation being the difference between eating and dining.
--
Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


Remind me next year. The fruits are too big to go thru the bottle
mouth now.


Omelet 26-06-2007 07:27 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
In article . com,
James wrote:

I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.

There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.


It takes two people, and a bit of patience.

You can always box trap the squirrels and relocate them a few miles away.
--
Peace, Om

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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

James 26-06-2007 07:33 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
On Jun 26, 2:27 pm, Omelet wrote:
In article . com,

James wrote:
I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.


There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.


It takes two people, and a bit of patience.

You can always box trap the squirrels and relocate them a few miles away.
--
Peace, Om

You mean like the people who dumped them on my fruit trees?


Omelet 26-06-2007 08:24 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
In article .com,
James wrote:

On Jun 26, 2:27 pm, Omelet wrote:
In article . com,

James wrote:
I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.


There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.


It takes two people, and a bit of patience.

You can always box trap the squirrels and relocate them a few miles away.
--
Peace, Om

You mean like the people who dumped them on my fruit trees?


lol I'd at least dump them at a local park where people feed them.

Personally, I find squirrel to be delicious. Wet them down before
skinning them to keep them from shedding on the meat.

But, not everyone can shoot tree rats.

One should always eat what they kill whenever possible.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

George Shirley 26-06-2007 09:50 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
James wrote:
On Jun 26, 11:32 am, George Shirley wrote:

James wrote:

I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.


There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.


We use two people with a pole about 10-12 feet long each. At the end of
the pole I used a saw and cut a Y. The Y holds the netting while you get
it up and over the top. Put the netting on after the fruit sets but
before it gets any bigger. Pull the netting together at the base of the
tree and tie it loosely around the trunk. This spring was the first time
I netted my fruit trees and also the first time I beat the squirrels and
the grackles to the fruit. I would shoot the tree rats but I live in a
town that has, unwisely, proclaimed itself a "wildlife refuge." The old
biddy next door puts out corn on the cob for the tree rats and they
bring it over to my place and drop it all over the place. Occasionally
my Rat Terrier gets a squirrel and that's legal but not enough to please
me when there's twenty of them after my garden and fruit. Not to mention
the electrical transformers they commit suicide with blowing up. HTH

George



I think I'd leave the net over the tree once in place. Fruit theives
can have any fruit that set over the net.

Only problem is that limbs tend to grow during the year in my climate
and then it's hell getting the netting off without cutting it up.
Normally the netting will last several years. I hit on the idea of just
pruning off new growth that grows through the netting and it's working
so far.

George


George Shirley 26-06-2007 09:51 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
Omelet wrote:

In article . com,
James wrote:


I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.

There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.



It takes two people, and a bit of patience.

You can always box trap the squirrels and relocate them a few miles away.

In some jurisdictions you can't do that Om. In Louisiana you have to get
a permit which involves telling the game people where you're going to
release them and what the terrain is like, etc. More trouble than just
letting the little devils run amok.

George


Dan L. 27-06-2007 02:01 AM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
Hmmm... How about a yappy dog. Since I got my little Yorkie, critters
like rabbits and squirrels are no longer a problem. I have also trained
my dog to stay out of the garden, without punishing it. Then again,
someone told me "yorkies are not dogs at all, Yorkies are squirrels with
bad haircuts."

Enjoy Life .... Dan


In article ,
George Shirley wrote:

Omelet wrote:

In article . com,
James wrote:


I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.

There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.



It takes two people, and a bit of patience.

You can always box trap the squirrels and relocate them a few miles away.

In some jurisdictions you can't do that Om. In Louisiana you have to get
a permit which involves telling the game people where you're going to
release them and what the terrain is like, etc. More trouble than just
letting the little devils run amok.

George


--
Email "dan lehr at comcast dot net". Text only or goes to trash automatically.

sherwindu 27-06-2007 07:38 AM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
For the reasons you mentioned, and others, I gave up putting full nets over my
fruit
trees. It took a full day to put it up and another to take it down. I had a
nice system
though, using a vertical pole extending above the tree top. On top of the pole
I had
a horizontal 'X' crossbars with a wire around the perimeter and plastic bottles
at the
ends to allow the net to slip over it. Four guy wires held it up.

I have since gone to a different system of covering my more valuable fruits with
zip
lock sandwich bags. You need a slit at the bottom for the rain to drain out. I
am
also experimenting this year with nylon 'footsies', an inexpensive sock that
women
use to try on shoes. It is very labor intensive, and won't work well with fruit
like
cherries that grow in clusters. It also has the benefit of temporary protection
from
rabbits who would otherwise chew on fallen fruit. The bags also can protect
against
certain insect penetration, if you can get them on early enough in the fruit's
development.

I keep my yard almost squirrel free by trap and release methods. It takes a few

seasons to reduce the population, but in succesive years you only find a few
stragglers moving into your yard.


Sherwin D.
James wrote:

I got the netting but it get all tangled up with my shirt buttons and
is impossible to get over the tree. It's almost invisible.

There are at least 4 squirrels dinning on my pears. I only got 4
Bartlet left on the tree so I can just wrap them. I had just thin the
Asian pears and right after the squirrels thin them a whole lot more.
Was going to shoot them up they are young ones and I didn't have the
heart.



The Ranger[_1_] 27-06-2007 03:51 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
sherwindu wrote in message
...
[..] It took a full day to put it up and another to take
it down.


It took you a full day to put up and take down netting? Why? It
shouldn't take more than 30-40 minutes with assistance from any
able-bodied adult.

I had a nice system though, using a vertical pole
extending above the tree top. On top of the pole
I had a horizontal 'X' crossbars with a wire around
the perimeter and plastic bottles at the ends to allow
the net to slip over it. Four guy wires held it up.


Why did you stop using this system? It actually sounds like it
would work a lot better than netting _and_ would be much easier to
put up and take down.

I have since gone to a different system of covering
my more valuable fruits with zip lock sandwich bags.
[..] also experimenting this year with nylon 'footsies',

[snip]

And you're concerned that the netting took a whole day? Putting
footsies or ziplocks over individual fruit is such an extremely
labor intensive job that the netting can't even come close to
being.

The Ranger



James 27-06-2007 06:13 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
On Jun 27, 10:51 am, "The Ranger" wrote:
sherwindu wrote in message

...

[..] It took a full day to put it up and another to take
it down.


It took you a full day to put up and take down netting? Why? It
shouldn't take more than 30-40 minutes with assistance from any
able-bodied adult.

I had a nice system though, using a vertical pole
extending above the tree top. On top of the pole
I had a horizontal 'X' crossbars with a wire around
the perimeter and plastic bottles at the ends to allow
the net to slip over it. Four guy wires held it up.


Why did you stop using this system? It actually sounds like it
would work a lot better than netting _and_ would be much easier to
put up and take down.

I have since gone to a different system of covering
my more valuable fruits with zip lock sandwich bags.
[..] also experimenting this year with nylon 'footsies',


[snip]

And you're concerned that the netting took a whole day? Putting
footsies or ziplocks over individual fruit is such an extremely
labor intensive job that the netting can't even come close to
being.

The Ranger


For one thing your glasses wouldn't get tangled up in footsies or
ziplocks.

My pussy thinks the netting is a toy and loves to get all tangled in
it while I was trying to put it up.

Just covered my fig. However I think it was raccoons that were
stealing my figs last year because it was something heavy enough to
break branches.


George Shirley 27-06-2007 07:38 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
James wrote:
On Jun 27, 10:51 am, "The Ranger" wrote:

sherwindu wrote in message

...


[..] It took a full day to put it up and another to take
it down.


It took you a full day to put up and take down netting? Why? It
shouldn't take more than 30-40 minutes with assistance from any
able-bodied adult.


I had a nice system though, using a vertical pole
extending above the tree top. On top of the pole
I had a horizontal 'X' crossbars with a wire around
the perimeter and plastic bottles at the ends to allow
the net to slip over it. Four guy wires held it up.


Why did you stop using this system? It actually sounds like it
would work a lot better than netting _and_ would be much easier to
put up and take down.


I have since gone to a different system of covering
my more valuable fruits with zip lock sandwich bags.
[..] also experimenting this year with nylon 'footsies',


[snip]

And you're concerned that the netting took a whole day? Putting
footsies or ziplocks over individual fruit is such an extremely
labor intensive job that the netting can't even come close to
being.

The Ranger



For one thing your glasses wouldn't get tangled up in footsies or
ziplocks.

My pussy thinks the netting is a toy and loves to get all tangled in
it while I was trying to put it up.

Just covered my fig. However I think it was raccoons that were
stealing my figs last year because it was something heavy enough to
break branches.

The !@#$% grackles have already been at ours. Just as the fig ripens
they eat half of it. Went out this morning and netted the fig tree. The
plum and the peach crops are done so used the same netting over again.

George


sherwindu 28-06-2007 07:04 AM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 


The Ranger wrote:

sherwindu wrote in message
...
[..] It took a full day to put it up and another to take
it down.


It took you a full day to put up and take down netting? Why? It
shouldn't take more than 30-40 minutes with assistance from any
able-bodied adult.


I thought I made it clear that this was not a simple thing of throwing a
net over a tree. The frame had to be put together. It had to be erected
and guyed. The net had to be put into place. If you never did this before,
you probably can't appreciate the time involved.



I had a nice system though, using a vertical pole
extending above the tree top. On top of the pole
I had a horizontal 'X' crossbars with a wire around
the perimeter and plastic bottles at the ends to allow
the net to slip over it. Four guy wires held it up.


Why did you stop using this system? It actually sounds like it
would work a lot better than netting _and_ would be much easier to
put up and take down.


The additional benefits of covering the fruit to protect it from insects was
the determining factor. Squirrels became less of a problem and insects
more.



I have since gone to a different system of covering
my more valuable fruits with zip lock sandwich bags.
[..] also experimenting this year with nylon 'footsies',

[snip]

And you're concerned that the netting took a whole day? Putting
footsies or ziplocks over individual fruit is such an extremely
labor intensive job that the netting can't even come close to
being.

The Ranger



sherwindu 28-06-2007 07:09 AM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 


For one thing your glasses wouldn't get tangled up in footsies or
ziplocks.

My pussy thinks the netting is a toy and loves to get all tangled in
it while I was trying to put it up.

Just covered my fig. However I think it was raccoons that were
stealing my figs last year because it was something heavy enough to
break branches.


I had everything from birds to skunks get tangled up in the nets. It usually
requred cutting them out, which seriously damaged the nets. The nets I
used were heavy duty, not the light bird netting sold in many stores.
Nevertheless, I had to do yearly maintenance patching all the holes made
by animals and branches. The sun also had a deteriorating effect on the
nets, making them weaker from season to season.

Sherwin D.



The Ranger[_1_] 28-06-2007 02:28 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
sherwindu wrote in message
...
The Ranger wrote:
sherwindu wrote in message
...


[..] It took a full day to put it up and another to take
it down.

It took you a full day to put up and take down netting?
Why? It shouldn't take more than 30-40 minutes with
assistance from any able-bodied adult.

I thought I made it clear that this was not a simple thing
of throwing a net over a tree. The frame had to be put
together. It had to be erected and guyed. The net had
to be put into place. If you never did this before, you
probably can't appreciate the time involved.


I have, and do, put up a similarly intricate netting system but it
doesn't take more than 50 minutes on the first tree to get my
timing and base-knowledge back. I quickly cut the time down per
tree (five trees) after that.

I did try it by myself one year... That's why I now bribe either
BIL for assistance.

I had a nice system though, using a vertical pole
extending above the tree top. On top of the pole
I had a horizontal 'X' crossbars with a wire around
the perimeter and plastic bottles at the ends to allow
the net to slip over it. Four guy wires held it up.

Why did you stop using this system? It actually sounds
like it would work a lot better than netting _and_ would
be much easier to put up and take down.

The additional benefits of covering the fruit to protect it
from insects was the determining factor. Squirrels
became less of a problem and insects more.


Ah. Yeah, shiny googas and plastic noise-makers don't seem to
bother anything from the insect world.

The Ranger



Manelli Family[_3_] 29-06-2007 03:00 AM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 

"sherwindu" wrote in message
...

I thought I made it clear that this was not a simple thing of throwing a
net over a tree. The frame had to be put together. It had to be erected
and guyed. The net had to be put into place. If you never did this
before,
you probably can't appreciate the time involved.



After reading this thread I think I'll let the tree-rats have my pears.
I'll buy 'em at the store.


sherwindu 01-07-2007 07:49 AM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
One question might be how big a net are you erecting? My nets were rather
large,
about 30 feet square. If you are putting up small nets, I agree it should not
take a
full day.

Sherwin

The Ranger wrote:

sherwindu wrote in message
...
The Ranger wrote:
sherwindu wrote in message
...


[..] It took a full day to put it up and another to take
it down.

It took you a full day to put up and take down netting?
Why? It shouldn't take more than 30-40 minutes with
assistance from any able-bodied adult.

I thought I made it clear that this was not a simple thing
of throwing a net over a tree. The frame had to be put
together. It had to be erected and guyed. The net had
to be put into place. If you never did this before, you
probably can't appreciate the time involved.


I have, and do, put up a similarly intricate netting system but it
doesn't take more than 50 minutes on the first tree to get my
timing and base-knowledge back. I quickly cut the time down per
tree (five trees) after that.

I did try it by myself one year... That's why I now bribe either
BIL for assistance.

I had a nice system though, using a vertical pole
extending above the tree top. On top of the pole
I had a horizontal 'X' crossbars with a wire around
the perimeter and plastic bottles at the ends to allow
the net to slip over it. Four guy wires held it up.

Why did you stop using this system? It actually sounds
like it would work a lot better than netting _and_ would
be much easier to put up and take down.

The additional benefits of covering the fruit to protect it
from insects was the determining factor. Squirrels
became less of a problem and insects more.


Ah. Yeah, shiny googas and plastic noise-makers don't seem to
bother anything from the insect world.

The Ranger



sherwindu 01-07-2007 07:51 AM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
If you can tolerate the tasteless supermarket fruit, I guess you should not
bother
growing your own.

Sherwin

Manelli Family wrote:

"sherwindu" wrote in message
...

I thought I made it clear that this was not a simple thing of throwing a
net over a tree. The frame had to be put together. It had to be erected
and guyed. The net had to be put into place. If you never did this
before,
you probably can't appreciate the time involved.


After reading this thread I think I'll let the tree-rats have my pears.
I'll buy 'em at the store.



Dianna Visek 09-07-2007 07:39 PM

How do you put on bird netting over fruit trees?
 
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 06:28:08 -0700, "The Ranger"
wrote:

sherwindu wrote in message

OK, Ranger, what system do you use that allows you to spend only 50
minutes per tree?

Thanks, Dianna


...
The Ranger wrote:


I have, and do, put up a similarly intricate netting system but it
doesn't take more than 50 minutes on the first tree to get my
timing and base-knowledge back. I quickly cut the time down per
tree (five trees) after that.

I did try it by myself one year... That's why I now bribe either
BIL for assistance.


The Ranger


fentorydekson 12-02-2011 12:05 PM

For the reasons you mentioned, and others, I gave up on me the whole network
Fruit Trees. It took a whole day and the other to take it down. I have a
NICE Systems. However, the use of vertical bars extending above the top of the tree. A horizontal 'X' bar around the perimeter wire and plastic bottles in After allowed to slide in its net. Four guy wires lifted it.

gracerallson 17-06-2011 05:32 PM

Only botheration is that limbs tend to abound during the year in my climate and again it's hell accepting the applique off after acid it up. Normally the applique will endure several years. I hit on the abstraction of just pruning off new advance that grows through the applique and it's working so far.


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