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doofy 22-10-2007 05:14 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In reference to an earlier question of mine, and someone else's interest
in the answer (Omelet I believe), I found this page regarding harvesting
beet greens (and beets):

http://www.yardener.com/HarvestingandStoringBeets.html

doofy 22-10-2007 05:20 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
doofy wrote:
In reference to an earlier question of mine, and someone else's interest
in the answer (Omelet I believe), I found this page regarding harvesting
beet greens (and beets):

http://www.yardener.com/HarvestingandStoringBeets.html


Oh, and this one:

http://www.ehow.com/how_8276_harvest-store-beets.html

says you can pick 1/3 of the greens at a time.

Omelet[_2_] 22-10-2007 10:28 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
doofy wrote:

In reference to an earlier question of mine, and someone else's interest
in the answer (Omelet I believe), I found this page regarding harvesting
beet greens (and beets):

http://www.yardener.com/HarvestingandStoringBeets.html


Hey thanks!

I finally saw some beets with the greens at Wal-mart for the first time
in ages. I'm considering purchasing some and just sticking them back
into the ground for greens harvest. :-)

Should not be any different than re-planting any other bulb?
--
Peace, Om

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Omelet[_2_] 22-10-2007 10:32 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
doofy wrote:

doofy wrote:
In reference to an earlier question of mine, and someone else's interest
in the answer (Omelet I believe), I found this page regarding harvesting
beet greens (and beets):

http://www.yardener.com/HarvestingandStoringBeets.html


Oh, and this one:

http://www.ehow.com/how_8276_harvest-store-beets.html

says you can pick 1/3 of the greens at a time.


I'm wondering how long the beet bulb will live if I just leave it in the
ground and use it as a fresh greens source. :-) The only green I like
better than beet is chard and mom managed to get those to last 3 years
or more.
--
Peace, Om

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"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

David Hare-Scott 22-10-2007 11:21 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 

"Omelet" wrote in message
...

I'm wondering how long the beet bulb will live if I just leave it in the
ground and use it as a fresh greens source. :-) The only green I like
better than beet is chard and mom managed to get those to last 3 years
or more.


Not surprising since they are cultivars of the same species.

David



Omelet[_2_] 22-10-2007 11:53 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
...

I'm wondering how long the beet bulb will live if I just leave it in the
ground and use it as a fresh greens source. :-) The only green I like
better than beet is chard and mom managed to get those to last 3 years
or more.


Not surprising since they are cultivars of the same species.

David


Really?

But I've not managed to get beet planted from seed to go more than 2
years. The second year, they bolted and produced a ton of seed and very
little green.

We've not experienced that with chard.
--
Peace, Om

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doofy 22-10-2007 10:29 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
Omelet wrote:

I finally saw some beets with the greens at Wal-mart for the first time
in ages.


Don't go there.

Omelet[_2_] 23-10-2007 02:47 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
doofy wrote:

Omelet wrote:

I finally saw some beets with the greens at Wal-mart for the first time
in ages.


Don't go there.


There are few items at Wal-mart that I can't get elsewhere, but here in
this town, there are only two grocery stores. Some items I have to go
there for unless I want to drive to Austin. Packed freeway and lots of
gas.

HEB cuts the greens off of the beets. Always.
--
Peace, Om

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David Hare-Scott 23-10-2007 04:05 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 

"Omelet" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
...

I'm wondering how long the beet bulb will live if I just leave it in

the
ground and use it as a fresh greens source. :-) The only green I like
better than beet is chard and mom managed to get those to last 3 years
or more.


Not surprising since they are cultivars of the same species.

David


Really?


Beta vulgaris

David



Ann 23-10-2007 12:49 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
Omelet expounded:

There are few items at Wal-mart that I can't get elsewhere, but here in
this town, there are only two grocery stores. Some items I have to go
there for unless I want to drive to Austin. Packed freeway and lots of
gas.


You're not the only one who goes to Walmart, I go there too, they sell
the Oakhurst Dairy milk I prefer. Can't get it in any supermarket
around here, but super Wally World has it.

HEB cuts the greens off of the beets. Always.


I look at veggies in there when I'm getting milk, but somehow I just
can't bring myself to buy them. Walmart=plastic in my mind, I guess
(except for that damned milk, why did that dairy have to make a deal
with the devil? G).
--
Ann
e-mail address is not checked

Omelet[_2_] 23-10-2007 04:11 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
Ann wrote:

Omelet expounded:

There are few items at Wal-mart that I can't get elsewhere, but here in
this town, there are only two grocery stores. Some items I have to go
there for unless I want to drive to Austin. Packed freeway and lots of
gas.


You're not the only one who goes to Walmart, I go there too, they sell
the Oakhurst Dairy milk I prefer. Can't get it in any supermarket
around here, but super Wally World has it.

HEB cuts the greens off of the beets. Always.


I look at veggies in there when I'm getting milk, but somehow I just
can't bring myself to buy them. Walmart=plastic in my mind, I guess
(except for that damned milk, why did that dairy have to make a deal
with the devil? G).


lol

Wal-mart has had Haas Avocados this week 4 for $1.00 again...
--
Peace, Om

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"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

Billy[_4_] 24-10-2007 02:29 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Ann wrote:

Omelet expounded:

There are few items at Wal-mart that I can't get elsewhere, but here in
this town, there are only two grocery stores. Some items I have to go
there for unless I want to drive to Austin. Packed freeway and lots of
gas.


You're not the only one who goes to Walmart, I go there too, they sell
the Oakhurst Dairy milk I prefer. Can't get it in any supermarket
around here, but super Wally World has it.

HEB cuts the greens off of the beets. Always.


I look at veggies in there when I'm getting milk, but somehow I just
can't bring myself to buy them. Walmart=plastic in my mind, I guess
(except for that damned milk, why did that dairy have to make a deal
with the devil? G).


lol

Wal-mart has had Haas Avocados this week 4 for $1.00 again...


"A study by the New Economics Foundation in London found that every £10
spent in a local food business is worth £25 for the local area, compared
with just £14 when the same amount is spent in a supermarket. That is, a
pound (or dollar peso, or rupee) spent locally generates nearly twice as
much income for the local economy."
- Eat Here, Brian Halwell

What kind of world do you want?
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

Omelet[_2_] 24-10-2007 02:37 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

Wal-mart has had Haas Avocados this week 4 for $1.00 again...


"A study by the New Economics Foundation in London found that every £10
spent in a local food business is worth £25 for the local area, compared
with just £14 when the same amount is spent in a supermarket. That is, a
pound (or dollar peso, or rupee) spent locally generates nearly twice as
much income for the local economy."
- Eat Here, Brian Halwell

What kind of world do you want?
--
FB - FFF

Billy


No surprise...

Fast Food is much pricier than cooking your own food.

Frankly, I could not afford to live entirely off of food made by
somebody else!

Nor would it be healthy in most cases.
--
Peace, Om

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"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

Billy[_4_] 24-10-2007 05:22 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

Wal-mart has had Haas Avocados this week 4 for $1.00 again...


"A study by the New Economics Foundation in London found that every £10
spent in a local food business is worth £25 for the local area, compared
with just £14 when the same amount is spent in a supermarket. That is, a
pound (or dollar peso, or rupee) spent locally generates nearly twice as
much income for the local economy."
- Eat Here, Brian Halwell

What kind of world do you want?
--
FB - FFF

Billy


No surprise...

Fast Food is much pricier than cooking your own food.

Frankly, I could not afford to live entirely off of food made by
somebody else!

Nor would it be healthy in most cases.


Om, I didn't say fast food restaurants, I said supermarkets. I doubt
that avocados are grown in Texas, so they must come from Florida or
California. If they are grown in Texas, though, you would do the
neighborhood proud by buying them. The problem is that the profits from
"Wally World" leave Texas, leaving the area that much poorer. If you buy
from a neighbor, the money will circulate locally.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

Ann 24-10-2007 12:27 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
Billy expounded:

If you buy
from a neighbor, the money will circulate locally.


If the neighbor sold decent milk I would.

As for buy locally, I do, as much as possible. Some of us already
have the message, Billy.
--
Ann
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Omelet[_2_] 25-10-2007 02:37 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

Om, I didn't say fast food restaurants, I said supermarkets. I doubt
that avocados are grown in Texas, so they must come from Florida or
California. If they are grown in Texas, though, you would do the
neighborhood proud by buying them. The problem is that the profits from
"Wally World" leave Texas, leaving the area that much poorer. If you buy
from a neighbor, the money will circulate locally.
--
FB - FFF

Billy


Sorry, misunderstood.

I do occasionally purchase from Farmers Market (when I remember to go)
but local produce stands are rare, and we don't have a good butcher shop
here in town.
--
Peace, Om

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"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

Omelet[_2_] 25-10-2007 02:38 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
Ann wrote:

Billy expounded:

If you buy
from a neighbor, the money will circulate locally.


If the neighbor sold decent milk I would.

As for buy locally, I do, as much as possible. Some of us already
have the message, Billy.


As much as possible being the key.
--
Peace, Om

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"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

Billy[_4_] 25-10-2007 05:41 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
Ann wrote:

Billy expounded:

If you buy
from a neighbor, the money will circulate locally.


If the neighbor sold decent milk I would.

As for buy locally, I do, as much as possible. Some of us already
have the message, Billy.


It's OK. I was just spreading the message to the rest of you, Ann. No
need to thank me;-)

--
FB - FFF

Billy
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

Billy[_4_] 25-10-2007 06:20 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

The problem is that the profits from
"Wally World" leave (the local area), leaving the area that much poorer. If you buy
from a neighbor, the money will circulate locally.
--
FB - FFF

Billy


Sorry, misunderstood.

I do occasionally purchase from Farmers Market (when I remember to go)
but local produce stands are rare, and we don't have a good butcher shop
here in town.


Buying locally is just good for the area because it increases local
employment (improves taxes and local infrastructure), reduces the chance
of contamination (inherent in long distance transportation), allows
local farmers to produce diverse crops (which improves their income and
their soil) and the food tastes better.

Independent butcher shops, in this area of a half million people, are
usually found in rural areas, not in the shopping hubs. The tricks that
are played with meat can make you sick. Vacuum bags of pork ribs are
injected with ozone to make the meat look fresh. Aged hams are
cosmetically treated and re-offered as picnic hams. Nitrates are used to
make meat look fresh. According to Michael Pollan, animals finished with
grain are bad for you (omega-6/omega-3), where as the grass feed version
of the same meat is health neutral to beneficial.

Then you can wash it all down with a Texas Hill Country wine,
http://www.texaswinetrail.com/map.html . You live in the Hill country,
if I remember correctly.

Ever since I discovered Schultz's Weingarten in Austin and Fredricksburg
on the Internet, I've wanted to visit. Speaking of which, no good
butchers in Fredricksburg or New (Neu) Braunfels? Das ist ganz traurig.

Oh, and the people who already have the message could do us all some
good, if they could whoop the message up a little.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

Billy[_4_] 25-10-2007 06:56 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

Schultz's Weingarten


Big whoops here. Make that Shultz's Biergarten. (Shultz is spelled
differently too). Anyway, rec.garden.edible, rec.garten.bier, everything
is good.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

Billy[_4_] 26-10-2007 12:02 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article . com,
Steve wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:20:45 -0700, Billy
wrote:

Buying locally is just good for the area because it increases local
employment (improves taxes and local infrastructure), reduces the chance
of contamination (inherent in long distance transportation), allows
local farmers to produce diverse crops (which improves their income and
their soil) and the food tastes better.


You know Billy, I'm on your side but only one of those statements is
fact. All of the others are geo/demo relative or just plain
inaccurate.


OK. I already covered local buying which doubles the value of the
purchase to the local economy (New Economics Foundation,"Local Food
Better for Rural Economy than Supermarket Shopping" [press release],
London, UK. 7 August 2001).

Walter Goldschmdt's 1947 book "As You Sow: Three Studies in the Social
Consequences of Agribusiness" as summarized in Peter Barnes (ed.)The
People's Land: A reader on Land reform in the United States, Rodale
Press, 1975. Refers to increased economic viability in farm towns where
farm sizes are smaller and cater to local buyers, which has an
amplifying effect of increased goods and services being sold and the
ameliorating influence that it has on local infrastructure.

I can't find the quote that I want for long distance food contamination
so let me substitute "Is Your Food Contaminated?", Mark Frischetti,
Scientific American, September, 2007.

Using crop rotation requires fewer inputs (less petroleum products),
which will improve the land. It allows greater diversity, which offers
its' own protection to the farmer because he is not dependent (make or
break) on one crop. If the farmer can do his/her own sales or
distribution, they receive more than the 7 cents on the dollar that the
monoculture farmers get.

And lastly, it must be obvious that fresher food tastes better.

I gave up with the footnotes because it's time for my beauty nap.

I await you response as to where I jumped the tracks.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

Ann 26-10-2007 12:39 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
Billy expounded:

Oh, and the people who already have the message could do us all some
good, if they could whoop the message up a little


Many of us do, but not to the point of being adversarial or obnoxious.
It doesn't do a cause any good if you turn off your audience ;-
--
Ann
e-mail address is not checked

Billy[_4_] 26-10-2007 01:14 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
Ann wrote:

Billy expounded:

Oh, and the people who already have the message could do us all some
good, if they could whoop the message up a little


Many of us do, but not to the point of being adversarial or obnoxious.
It doesn't do a cause any good if you turn off your audience ;-


Ann, you don't have to pick a fight. You already have.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

Ann 26-10-2007 01:50 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
Billy expounded:

In article ,
Ann wrote:

Billy expounded:

Oh, and the people who already have the message could do us all some
good, if they could whoop the message up a little


Many of us do, but not to the point of being adversarial or obnoxious.
It doesn't do a cause any good if you turn off your audience ;-


Ann, you don't have to pick a fight. You already have.


I've never picked a fight with you, Billy, but you can't say the same.
The sad thing is we're on the same page on so many things, but you
just can't let anything go.
--
Ann
e-mail address is not checked

Billy[_4_] 26-10-2007 02:07 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article ,
Ann wrote:

Billy expounded:

In article ,
Ann wrote:

Billy expounded:

Oh, and the people who already have the message could do us all some
good, if they could whoop the message up a little

Many of us do, but not to the point of being adversarial or obnoxious.
It doesn't do a cause any good if you turn off your audience ;-


Ann, you don't have to pick a fight. You already have.


I've never picked a fight with you, Billy, but you can't say the same.
The sad thing is we're on the same page on so many things, but you
just can't let anything go.


I have. You.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

Ann 26-10-2007 03:19 AM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
Billy expounded:

I have. You.


Yea, right.
--
Ann
e-mail address is not checked

doofy 26-10-2007 06:55 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
Ann wrote:
Billy expounded:

I have. You.


Yea, right.


you guys are "beeting" a dead horse.

Ann 26-10-2007 08:46 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
doofy expounded:


you guys are "beeting" a dead horse.


How right you are! On the other hand, I picked a nice bunch of beets
this morning to share with a friend. Golden, Chioggia, Red Ace and
Forono. Yum!
--
Ann
e-mail address is not checked

Rachael Simpson 26-10-2007 09:54 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
doofy wrote:
Ann wrote:
Billy expounded:

I have. You.


Yea, right.


you guys are "beeting" a dead horse.


Sorry y'all...I like ya both, but I'm with doofy on this one...

running away & ducking back into my safe haven now...LOL!

Omelet[_2_] 27-10-2007 01:56 PM

Harvesting Beet Greens
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

Buying locally is just good for the area because it increases local
employment (improves taxes and local infrastructure), reduces the chance
of contamination (inherent in long distance transportation), allows
local farmers to produce diverse crops (which improves their income and
their soil) and the food tastes better.

Independent butcher shops, in this area of a half million people, are
usually found in rural areas, not in the shopping hubs. The tricks that
are played with meat can make you sick. Vacuum bags of pork ribs are
injected with ozone to make the meat look fresh. Aged hams are
cosmetically treated and re-offered as picnic hams. Nitrates are used to
make meat look fresh. According to Michael Pollan, animals finished with
grain are bad for you (omega-6/omega-3), where as the grass feed version
of the same meat is health neutral to beneficial.

Then you can wash it all down with a Texas Hill Country wine,
http://www.texaswinetrail.com/map.html . You live in the Hill country,
if I remember correctly.


Indeed. :-)
Mom and I travelled the winery trails a couple of times.
I recommend Cana Cellars.


Ever since I discovered Schultz's Weingarten in Austin and Fredricksburg
on the Internet, I've wanted to visit. Speaking of which, no good
butchers in Fredricksburg or New (Neu) Braunfels? Das ist ganz traurig.


lol I said IN TOWN! :-)
There is Granzin's in New Braunfels that I have yet to try, but have
been encouraged to do so by more than one source.

My preference is to purchase 1/2 of a local range fed cow when I have
the money and the space.


Oh, and the people who already have the message could do us all some
good, if they could whoop the message up a little.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

--
Peace, Om

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"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

jonmiilton 28-02-2011 04:48 PM

A study by the New Economics Foundation in London found that every £ 10 in local food businesses £ 2.5 billion, is the region, compared to just £ 14, when the same amount spent in a supermarket. That is, one pound for the local produce nearly twice the income of local economic development.


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