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"The Myth of Nitrogen Fertilization for Soil Carbon Sequestration"
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1029172809.htm



"The Myth of Nitrogen Fertilization for Soil Carbon Sequestration"
is published in the November/December 2007 issue of the Journal of
Environmental Quality.



Interesting. This is somewhat parallel to the view that much superphosphate
goes to waste as it is not necessarily useful for all the situations whee it
is used.

I wonder why they authors do not advance a mechanism for why excesive use of
nitrogenous fertiliser depletes organic carbon in soils.

David


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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1029172809.htm



"The Myth of Nitrogen Fertilization for Soil Carbon Sequestration"
is published in the November/December 2007 issue of the Journal of
Environmental Quality.



Interesting. This is somewhat parallel to the view that much superphosphate
goes to waste as it is not necessarily useful for all the situations whee it
is used.

I wonder why they authors do not advance a mechanism for why excesive use of
nitrogenous fertiliser depletes organic carbon in soils.

David


My guess would be that the chemical fertilizers kill the microbial life
and that rain water and watering flush the nutrients away.
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On Oct 31, 6:00 am, Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:



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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1029172809.htm


"The Myth of Nitrogen Fertilization for Soil Carbon Sequestration"
is published in the November/December 2007 issue of the Journal of
Environmental Quality.


Interesting. This is somewhat parallel to the view that much superphosphate
goes to waste as it is not necessarily useful for all the situations whee it
is used.


I wonder why they authors do not advance a mechanism for why excesive use of
nitrogenous fertiliser depletes organic carbon in soils.


David


My guess would be that the chemical fertilizers kill the microbial life
and that rain water and watering flush the nutrients away.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley


This may be in the same vein as the Reagan
(Governator of California, then President of US)
administration asserting that "trees" were
responsible for "air pollution".
I don't recall all the wherefores and whereasses,
but the argument definitely mentioned "Oxygen"
as one of the culprits ... Probably because
without it nitrous oxide, nitrogen dioxide, the
various sulfur oxides, and even ozone, cannot
form.
Duh.
Neither can politicians.

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This may be in the same vein as the Reagan
(Governator of California, then President of US)
administration asserting that "trees" were
responsible for "air pollution".
I don't recall all the wherefores and whereasses,
but the argument definitely mentioned "Oxygen"
as one of the culprits ... Probably because
without it nitrous oxide, nitrogen dioxide, the
various sulfur oxides, and even ozone, cannot
form.
Duh.
Neither can politicians.


This got me looking up Ronny Rayguns quotes. He could have given GWB a run
for his money. Amazing.

David




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In article . com,
Don H3 wrote:

On Oct 31, 6:00 am, Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:



"debnchas" wrote in message
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1029172809.htm


"The Myth of Nitrogen Fertilization for Soil Carbon Sequestration"
is published in the November/December 2007 issue of the Journal of
Environmental Quality.


Interesting. This is somewhat parallel to the view that much
superphosphate
goes to waste as it is not necessarily useful for all the situations whee
it
is used.


I wonder why they authors do not advance a mechanism for why excesive
use of
nitrogenous fertiliser depletes organic carbon in soils.


David


My guess would be that the chemical fertilizers kill the microbial life
and that rain water and watering flush the nutrients away.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley


This may be in the same vein as the Reagan
(Governator of California, then President of US)
administration asserting that "trees" were
responsible for "air pollution".
I don't recall all the wherefores and whereasses,
but the argument definitely mentioned "Oxygen"
as one of the culprits ... Probably because
without it nitrous oxide, nitrogen dioxide, the
various sulfur oxides, and even ozone, cannot
form.
Duh.
Neither can politicians.


No, I won't have it. Governor Ray-gun (of "taxes should hurt", but
didn't pay any, and Star Wars Defense [read boondoggle] fame) isn't the
Governator (Grop-pen-nator, whatever). That honor falls to Ah-nold, a
putative Republican, but with real "wacko" Republicans as contrast, it
is hard to tell.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

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Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:44:49 -0000, Don H3 wrote:

This may be in the same vein as the Reagan
(Governator of California, then President of US)
administration asserting that "trees" were
responsible for "air pollution".


It was probably from James Watt, a religion nutcase whose idea of ecological
conservation was to loot the environment for all it was worth while waiting
for the second coming of jeezuz.

The statement went along the lines that a forest rotting produced as much
polution as one being burned. Clear the idiot didn't understand that forests
take carbon from the air while growing and that it isn't cumulative.
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AZ Nomad wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:44:49 -0000, Don H3 wrote:

This may be in the same vein as the Reagan
(Governator of California, then President of US)
administration asserting that "trees" were
responsible for "air pollution".


It was probably from James Watt, a religion nutcase whose idea of ecological
conservation was to loot the environment for all it was worth while waiting
for the second coming of jeezuz.

The statement went along the lines that a forest rotting produced as much
polution as one being burned. Clear the idiot didn't understand that forests
take carbon from the air while growing and that it isn't cumulative.


Don't get me started on James Watt and his "Sage Brush Rebellion". "Sage
Brush Rip Off" would be appropriate. The Department of the Interior sold
the country's mineral resources off at pennies on the dollar. Grrrrr
--
FB - FFF

Billy

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Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley


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