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Drip irrigation, not pressurized
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doofy wrote: Billy wrote: Doffy, I don't know what kind of amenities you will have at your community garden plot but they must have water. With water you may be able to just run a host to a timer and, using simple drip irrigation, They won't allow that. I can have a drip system, but it must be manually switched on and off by me. I guess it's to keep from wasting water with broken timers. accomplish your garden watering. If you can't get a dedicated hose you may be able to set up a manifold of faucets from the water source and implement the above approach. I'm sure other gardeners will want to work with you on this because schedules can change but watering needs don't. Nobody wants to be a slave to their garden. Gardening is more fun when you want to, not when you have to. For gardening, the reservoirs from Australia seem like they may be very expensive. If you were just watering a half dozen shrubs, then it would probably be fine, but to water evenly a patch 20' x 10'would be one for every four square feet would be fifty little reservoirs. One for every eight feet would be twenty five reservoirs and the watering would probably be very uneven. Check out the site before you commit your self to, possibly, unnecessary costs. Good luck I'm already not going to go that route because of the expense, and the shipping. There's a trick I've been reading about with unglazed ceramic pots sunk in the soil and filled with water. Just have to find some pots, or take a ceramics class and make my own. And plant the plants in a circle around the pot. You can also take two terracotta pots, seal the drain hole in one, and glue the other pot inverted on top of it. Lot of work if you ask me. Or, 5 gal buckets with soaker hoses. I have some drip irrigation fittings here right now. I might experiment with them and see what kind of pressure they need. Well, who ever is gardening there is in the same position. Hang around and talk to he other gardeners. Trade watering. Water yours and someone else's, and they will water theirs and yours. Hook up with a couple of people and it all becomes very manageable. -- Billy Bush & Cheney, Behind Bars |
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"doofy" wrote in message
There's a trick I've been reading about with unglazed ceramic pots sunk in the soil and filled with water. Just have to find some pots, or take a ceramics class and make my own. And plant the plants in a circle around the pot. You can also take two terracotta pots, seal the drain hole in one, and glue the other pot inverted on top of it. Lot of work if you ask me. An easier way to do it is to just get some plastic downpipe such as plumbers use. Drill holes in it and fill it with water each time you are there. You could also just dig holes and put plastic flower posts int he hole up to their top and fill them with water. Here is Oz there are heaps of ways of tricks used to keep beds moist in weeks of above the ton temperatures and in drought conditions. Perhaps the best thing you can do is to mulch. |
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"doofy" wrote in message
and mulch like a mutha. where can I find some weed-free mulch? I've heard bark is not so good. Find a horse feed supply shop and use chaff on seedlings and use alfalfa hay on bigger things. That's the easy way but there are millions of other options - leaves, grass clippings, old rags, shredded newspaper etc, etc. No mulch is guaranteed to be weed free due to wind blown seeds, but most will reduce weeds anyway. |
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:17:27 -0800, doofy wrote:
doofy wrote: There's a trick I've been reading about with unglazed ceramic pots sunk in the soil and filled with water. Just have to find some pots, or take a ceramics class and make my own. And plant the plants in a circle around the pot. You can also take two terracotta pots, seal the drain hole in one, and glue the other pot inverted on top of it. Lot of work if you ask me. Or, 5 gal buckets with soaker hoses. and mulch like a mutha. where can I find some weed-free mulch? I've heard bark is not so good. I use grass clippings and hay. Let it 'cure' first and keep adding thruout the season. Doesn't need to be weed free because the 4 to 8 inches of mulch properly applied will not let weeds grow. Bury about 15 of those 5 gallon buckets after poking a hole on each side and stick in an emitter that has been partially plugged up with epoxy. You can experiment and find the right size hole that will make the water last 3 or 4 days. Each bucket is then supplying two plants. |
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"doofy" wrote in message ... If all you want is a slow drip feed the fact that it is gravity only wouldn't be a problem, you might find that you are crimping the hoses to stop it all running out the first day. However for that area you are going to need quite a few 5 gallon buckets to keep that going for a week in summer. I cannot be bothered looking up the USA gallon's volume in real units (:-) but my guess is that you are going to need about 400-500 gallons to put an inch on the plot. Whether that is enough depends on what your summer is like and the type of soil and the type of plants. There are plenty of cases where it would not be enough for good growth unless it also rained. I suggest you do your sums and work out what rate would be right. I suspect 5 gal buckets will not be worth it. David I know I'm new at this, but you're the second person to make calculations based on covering the WHOLE plot with an inch of water. Doesn't a drip system negate that need? I was assuming that a small plot would be covered fairly intensively. Yes you will save water with drippers. But if you only cover a third of the area that's still a lot of 5 gallon buckets. Maybe a couple of 50 gal drums? You decide. David |
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:19:20 -0800, doofy wrote:
Anyone know of the feasibility of a drip irrigation system feeding out of some 5 gallon buckets into some tubing? If I get this community garden space, I only want to go to it once a week because of the distance. Do you think some 5 gallons buckets, maybe 3 feet off the ground, could supply a weeks worth of water? Mostly, do you think the drip mechanism would work without the city water pressure behind it? Any ideas? One to two inches of water is all that is needed for most vegetable plants. However the type of soil and the amount of rain you get need to be taken into account. Sandy soil will need more water and clay needs less. It is better to put more water around the plants less often. It soaks in deeper. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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FarmI wrote:
"doofy" wrote in message There's a trick I've been reading about with unglazed ceramic pots sunk in the soil and filled with water. Just have to find some pots, or take a ceramics class and make my own. And plant the plants in a circle around the pot. You can also take two terracotta pots, seal the drain hole in one, and glue the other pot inverted on top of it. Lot of work if you ask me. An easier way to do it is to just get some plastic downpipe such as plumbers use. Drill holes in it and fill it with water each time you are there. You could also just dig holes and put plastic flower posts int he hole up to their top and fill them with water. How does the water get out of the pot? Through the drain hole? |
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doofy wrote:
Anyone know of the feasibility of a drip irrigation system feeding out of some 5 gallon buckets into some tubing? If I get this community garden space, I only want to go to it once a week because of the distance. Do you think some 5 gallons buckets, maybe 3 feet off the ground, could supply a weeks worth of water? Mostly, do you think the drip mechanism would work without the city water pressure behind it? Any ideas? It will work if you can get the reservoir 10 feet off the ground, and put some kind of timer on it to only drip a couple hours per day. I set up a cheap drip irrigation system for my garden in central Texas when I lived there; it operated on just a few PSI water pressure (supplied by city water and a regulator.) I watered about an hour or two every other day during the early afternoon when it was really hot. The rows were mulched to retain moisture. That was the best garden I ever had. Bob |
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doofy wrote:
doofy wrote: There's a trick I've been reading about with unglazed ceramic pots sunk in the soil and filled with water. Just have to find some pots, or take a ceramics class and make my own. And plant the plants in a circle around the pot. You can also take two terracotta pots, seal the drain hole in one, and glue the other pot inverted on top of it. Lot of work if you ask me. Or, 5 gal buckets with soaker hoses. and mulch like a mutha. where can I find some weed-free mulch? I've heard bark is not so good. Shredded office paper. (earthworms love it) It will compete with your plants for nitrogen, so you'll have to fertilize. Bob |
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On Nov 28, 9:19 pm, doofy wrote:
Anyone know of the feasibility of a drip irrigation system feeding out of some 5 gallon buckets into some tubing? If I get this community garden space, I only want to go to it once a week because of the distance. Do you think some 5 gallons buckets, maybe 3 feet off the ground, could supply a weeks worth of water? Mostly, do you think the drip mechanism would work without the city water pressure behind it? Any ideas? I use soaker hoses, and they actually require pressure regulators to get the pressure down to 10-20 psi. (although they worked OK without it). |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:06:17 -0800 (PST), z wrote:
On Nov 28, 9:19 pm, doofy wrote: I use soaker hoses, and they actually require pressure regulators to get the pressure down to 10-20 psi. (although they worked OK without 10psi is more than 20ft of elevation. sdb -- What's seen on your screen? http://PcScreenWatch.com sdbuse1 on mailhost bigfoot.com |
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On Dec 1, 6:20 pm, sylvan butler
wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:06:17 -0800 (PST), z wrote: On Nov 28, 9:19 pm, doofy wrote: I use soaker hoses, and they actually require pressure regulators to get the pressure down to 10-20 psi. (although they worked OK without 10psi is more than 20ft of elevation. Oh; I had been wondering when i posted...... |
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