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"Dan L." wrote:

I thank everyone for correcting my miss conceptions. I have saved all
links for further reading. Lots to read. This is an important topic to
me and I suspect to others. I do live next to a cattle farm that raises
black angus. Their stakes are good.

I am a software engineer who now finds life in the country is nicer.
Life is not simple anymore. The rules to healthy lifestyle seems to be
getting more complex each and every year and as I get older learning new
rules are getting harder each and every day.

When you get a chance read "Omnivore's Dilemma" (an oft referred to book
in this newsgroup). Most people find it a real page turner. If you can
find grass fed beef it will be healthier for you. It will be more
expensive up front, but there are expected health benefit$ in the long
term.

It's not that the rules have changed, it's that it's hard to get early
1940s food out of a 21st Century store. Everything used to be organic.
Then the "green revolution" (use of chemical fertilizers and synthetic
pesticides, and now GMOs) taught farmers how to maximize their crops.

Usually as you get older, the **** and vinegar starts percolating to the
surface. Older people usually have less patience, because we don't have
that much time left to waste. Come on Dan, get crotchety.
--

Billy

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Billy wrote:

In article
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"Dan L." wrote:

I thank everyone for correcting my miss conceptions. I have saved all
links for further reading. Lots to read. This is an important topic to
me and I suspect to others. I do live next to a cattle farm that raises
black angus. Their stakes are good.

I am a software engineer who now finds life in the country is nicer.
Life is not simple anymore. The rules to healthy lifestyle seems to be
getting more complex each and every year and as I get older learning new
rules are getting harder each and every day.

When you get a chance read "Omnivore's Dilemma" (an oft referred to book
in this newsgroup). Most people find it a real page turner. If you can
find grass fed beef it will be healthier for you. It will be more
expensive up front, but there are expected health benefit$ in the long
term.

It's not that the rules have changed, it's that it's hard to get early
1940s food out of a 21st Century store. Everything used to be organic.
Then the "green revolution" (use of chemical fertilizers and synthetic
pesticides, and now GMOs) taught farmers how to maximize their crops.

Usually as you get older, the **** and vinegar starts percolating to the
surface. Older people usually have less patience, because we don't have
that much time left to waste. Come on Dan, get crotchety.

Ok, I just ordered the books on Amazon, "Omnivore's Dilemma" and
"Animal, vegetable ..." two books that have been referred often here.
I am going to put away my "Tensor Calculus" and "Vernor Vinge" books
away for summer reading instead of spring.

Enjoy Life ... Dan

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Email "dan lehr at comcast dot net". Text only or goes to trash automatically.

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"Dan L." wrote:

Ok, I just ordered the books on Amazon, "Omnivore's Dilemma" and
"Animal, vegetable ..." two books that have been referred often here.
I am going to put away my "Tensor Calculus" and "Vernor Vinge" books
away for summer reading instead of spring.

Enjoy Life ... Dan

Geez, Dan, where did you get "Animal, Vegetable, Miracle"? Barbara
Kingsolver is a good author but she is mostly a cheerleader. If you were
going to get a second book I would have suggested, "Teaming with
Microbes: A Gardener's Guide to the Soil Food Web" by Lowenfels , and
Lewis. Between the two, you are confronted with healthy food and healthy
soil.

I'm sure that "Tensor Calculus" and "Vernor Vinge" are good books but
they are more conceptual that sensual.
--

Billy

Impeach Pelosi, Bush & Cheney to the Hague
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/

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"Dan L." wrote:

Ok, I just ordered the books on Amazon, "Omnivore's Dilemma" and
"Animal, vegetable ..." two books that have been referred often here.
I am going to put away my "Tensor Calculus" and "Vernor Vinge" books
away for summer reading instead of spring.

Enjoy Life ... Dan

Geez, Dan, where did you get "Animal, Vegetable, Miracle"? Barbara
Kingsolver is a good author but she is mostly a cheerleader. If you were
going to get a second book I would have suggested, "Teaming with
Microbes: A Gardener's Guide to the Soil Food Web" by Lowenfels , and
Lewis. Between the two, you are confronted with healthy food and healthy
soil.

I'm sure that "Tensor Calculus" and "Vernor Vinge" are good books but
they are more conceptual that sensual.

I will put that Microbes book in my wish list also.

The second book just makes it over $25 for free shipping. Books are a
curse in my life. Its like drugs in other people. For the last 30 years
of my life I have spent an average of $1,000 per year on books, I have
a nice little library covering many topics. I would rather read a good
book than to travel all over the world. Tensor Calculus is conceptual,
"Rainbows End" by Vernor Vinge in my world is very sensual

I like gardening, it is a comfort. I have a strong interest in the
sciences, math and physics are strong points. Biology and chemistry are
great weakness that needs to be improved. I know, I need to get a life

Enjoy Life ... Dan

--
Email "dan lehr at comcast dot net". Text only or goes to trash automatically.

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"Dan L." wrote:

Ok, I just ordered the books on Amazon, "Omnivore's Dilemma" and
"Animal, vegetable ..." two books that have been referred often here.
I am going to put away my "Tensor Calculus" and "Vernor Vinge" books
away for summer reading instead of spring.

Enjoy Life ... Dan

Geez, Dan, where did you get "Animal, Vegetable, Miracle"? Barbara
Kingsolver is a good author but she is mostly a cheerleader. If you were
going to get a second book I would have suggested, "Teaming with
Microbes: A Gardener's Guide to the Soil Food Web" by Lowenfels , and
Lewis. Between the two, you are confronted with healthy food and healthy
soil.

I'm sure that "Tensor Calculus" and "Vernor Vinge" are good books but
they are more conceptual that sensual.

I will put that Microbes book in my wish list also.

The second book just makes it over $25 for free shipping. Books are a
curse in my life. Its like drugs in other people. For the last 30 years
of my life I have spent an average of $1,000 per year on books, I have
a nice little library covering many topics. I would rather read a good
book than to travel all over the world. Tensor Calculus is conceptual,
"Rainbows End" by Vernor Vinge in my world is very sensual

I like gardening, it is a comfort. I have a strong interest in the
sciences, math and physics are strong points. Biology and chemistry are
great weakness that needs to be improved. I know, I need to get a life

Enjoy Life ... Dan

Sometimes the discounts on second hand books is sufficient to more than
cover the shipping. Second hand books can be better than what you check
out at the library. When I can, I'll check the book out from the library
and read it. If I really like it, then I'll buy it. The one I'm reading
now, I wouldn't buy (Emerald City).

Again, "Omnivore" is really good at explaining the whys and "Microbes"
is good at explaining the hows. However, each plant has it's own little
quirks and it takes awhile to get a handle on it, so Google a lot.

Some things work for some people and not for other. Why, I haven't a
clue. But there is nothing like a fresh tomato wrapped in a basil leaf,
or fresh cilantro pesto, or the perfume of a just picked parsnip. We
don't just eat to survive but we eat for pleasure as well.
--

Billy

Impeach Pelosi, Bush & Cheney to the Hague
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/