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Billy[_4_] 02-05-2008 05:37 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!


Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

Jan Flora 02-05-2008 08:27 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!


Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.


Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan

Sheldon[_1_] 02-05-2008 10:03 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.


Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio.../20&lpage=none





Bill[_13_] 02-05-2008 10:17 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.


Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...994-1097-8632-
92/20&lpage=none


Last cistern I saw was in Ohio in 1968. Living in NJ no need at this
time. Ground water is about 20 feet down. My well is about 40 feet
down but all the new is about 100. Nitrates are the major contaminate
and old gasoline tanks and oil residues.


Bill

http://waltonfeed.com/old/cistern.html

http://www.google.com/search?client=...tern&ie=UTF-8&
oe=UTF-8

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Billy[_4_] 03-05-2008 12:56 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Jan Flora wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!


Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.


Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan


Also beware of mosquitos.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

Omelet[_4_] 03-05-2008 02:16 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Jan Flora wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!

Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.


Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan


Also beware of mosquitos.


That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Billy[_4_] 03-05-2008 06:42 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Jan Flora wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've
used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!

Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the
driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan


Also beware of mosquitos.


That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.


That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

Jonno[_6_] 03-05-2008 09:42 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
Billy wrote:
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Jan Flora wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've
used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!
Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the
driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.
Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.

That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.


That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?

Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.

Omelet[_4_] 03-05-2008 03:50 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Jan Flora wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've
used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I
haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about
that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!

Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the
driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds
won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan

Also beware of mosquitos.


That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.


That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?


From what I have read, yes. BT dunks are specifically made for standing
water skeeter control.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Omelet[_4_] 03-05-2008 04:13 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.


That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?

Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.


But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Dioclese 03-05-2008 05:00 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!


Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related


All my piped wastewater goes to the leech field via the septic tank. Due to
the low permeability of my local soil, I opted for an above ground leech
field. It the size of a very large putting green. Soil depth is too deep
to have any concern of grass rootage affecting the leech piping. But, at
the same time, enough water is drained to keep the grass from drying out in
drought periods...
--
Dave

Parkinson's disease, not easy to define.
Much less cure.



Billy[_4_] 03-05-2008 05:51 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.

That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?

Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.


But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!


Any recipes for crappie minnows?;-))
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

Billy[_4_] 03-05-2008 07:21 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!


Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related


All my piped wastewater goes to the leech field via the septic tank. Due to
the low permeability of my local soil, I opted for an above ground leech
field. It the size of a very large putting green. Soil depth is too deep
to have any concern of grass rootage affecting the leech piping. But, at
the same time, enough water is drained to keep the grass from drying out in
drought periods...


My problem is that the garden is up-hill from my grey water. I have a
pump and hoses. I think a twenty - thirty gallon tank on my garage
(above the gardens) is basically all I need. That, and information on
which laundry and dish washing compounds are safe with my plants.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

Jan Flora 03-05-2008 07:37 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.


Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...994-1097-8632-
92/20&lpage=none


We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.
And you have to pay for a garbage can. We get our poly drums for free.

Jan

Jonno[_6_] 03-05-2008 11:38 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.
That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?

Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.


But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!

Trout are also a good alternative, but it rooly depends on the size of
the tank.
Mossies are not really problem. Just put in some fly screens mesh (in
the tank stoopid) not in the windows.
Really some people have no imagination, and neither have they got a
sense of humus...er humour? you git my vote omelet. Bacon with that?

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 06:49 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!


Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related


All my piped wastewater goes to the leech field via the septic tank. Due to
the low permeability of my local soil, I opted for an above ground leech
field. It the size of a very large putting green. Soil depth is too deep
to have any concern of grass rootage affecting the leech piping. But, at
the same time, enough water is drained to keep the grass from drying out in
drought periods...


And I'll bet it's REALLY green! :-)
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 06:49 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.

That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.


But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!


Any recipes for crappie minnows?;-))


Just eat 'em whole! Sushi.

g
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 06:51 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.
That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.


But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!


Trout are also a good alternative, but it rooly depends on the size of
the tank.
Mossies are not really problem. Just put in some fly screens mesh (in
the tank stoopid) not in the windows.
Really some people have no imagination, and neither have they got a
sense of humus...er humour? you git my vote omelet. Bacon with that?


Indeed... Gotta fry the fish in bacon grease. ;-d

A little veggie or mineral oil on top of the water kills skeeter larvae
too.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Jonno[_6_] 04-05-2008 10:13 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.
That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.
But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!

Trout are also a good alternative, but it rooly depends on the size of
the tank.
Mossies are not really problem. Just put in some fly screens mesh (in
the tank stoopid) not in the windows.
Really some people have no imagination, and neither have they got a
sense of humus...er humour? you git my vote omelet. Bacon with that?


Indeed... Gotta fry the fish in bacon grease. ;-d

A little veggie or mineral oil on top of the water kills skeeter larvae
too.

Yup, and kerosene works even better. Wonder what it does to the plants
though.

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 10:20 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.
That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.
But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!
Trout are also a good alternative, but it rooly depends on the size of
the tank.
Mossies are not really problem. Just put in some fly screens mesh (in
the tank stoopid) not in the windows.
Really some people have no imagination, and neither have they got a
sense of humus...er humour? you git my vote omelet. Bacon with that?


Indeed... Gotta fry the fish in bacon grease. ;-d

A little veggie or mineral oil on top of the water kills skeeter larvae
too.

Yup, and kerosene works even better. Wonder what it does to the plants
though.


That is why I suggested a neutral oil. g

All it does is prevent them from breathing so they suffocate.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Jonno[_6_] 04-05-2008 10:40 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.
That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.
But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!
Trout are also a good alternative, but it rooly depends on the size of
the tank.
Mossies are not really problem. Just put in some fly screens mesh (in
the tank stoopid) not in the windows.
Really some people have no imagination, and neither have they got a
sense of humus...er humour? you git my vote omelet. Bacon with that?
Indeed... Gotta fry the fish in bacon grease. ;-d

A little veggie or mineral oil on top of the water kills skeeter larvae
too.

Yup, and kerosene works even better. Wonder what it does to the plants
though.


That is why I suggested a neutral oil. g

All it does is prevent them from breathing so they suffocate.

Yah, I was thinking to fry the little critters (g)
You are so cruel. Fire is faster. Dont take much to give dem fish lung
cancer...

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 11:33 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.
That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always
eat
them when they grow big enough.
But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!


Trout are also a good alternative, but it rooly depends on the size of
the tank.
Mossies are not really problem. Just put in some fly screens mesh (in
the tank stoopid) not in the windows.
Really some people have no imagination, and neither have they got a
sense of humus...er humour? you git my vote omelet. Bacon with that?
Indeed... Gotta fry the fish in bacon grease. ;-d

A little veggie or mineral oil on top of the water kills skeeter larvae
too.
Yup, and kerosene works even better. Wonder what it does to the plants
though.


That is why I suggested a neutral oil. g

All it does is prevent them from breathing so they suffocate.


Yah, I was thinking to fry the little critters (g)
You are so cruel. Fire is faster. Dont take much to give dem fish lung
cancer...


In that case... see above.
Peanut oil is good too. Coat the fishies lightly in spiced up corn
starch and DEEP FRY!
Bacon grease. ;-D
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Billy[_4_] 04-05-2008 03:53 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.

That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always
eat
them when they grow big enough.

But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!


Any recipes for crappie minnows?;-))


Just eat 'em whole! Sushi.

g


I like my fish well done and flakey and who you callin' Sushi? Is that a
speech impediment or somethin'?;-)
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.counterpunch.org/martin05022008.html

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 05:26 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy
their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.

That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always
eat
them when they grow big enough.

But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!

Any recipes for crappie minnows?;-))


Just eat 'em whole! Sushi.

g


I like my fish well done and flakey and who you callin' Sushi? Is that a
speech impediment or somethin'?;-)


Sashimi... ;-)
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Billy[_4_] 04-05-2008 06:10 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

Sashimi... ;-)

Oh, my god.

Sashimi is a Japanese delicacy primarily consisting of very fresh raw
seafood, sliced into thin pieces . . .
A reputed motivation for serving wasabi with sashimi (and also gari,
pickled ginger), besides its flavor, is killing harmful bacteria and
parasites that could be present in raw seafood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sashimi

I was going to have breakfast, now I have to wait for the room to
stop spinning:-P
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.counterpunch.org/martin05022008.html

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 07:10 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

Sashimi... ;-)

Oh, my god.

Sashimi is a Japanese delicacy primarily consisting of very fresh raw
seafood, sliced into thin pieces . . .
A reputed motivation for serving wasabi with sashimi (and also gari,
pickled ginger), besides its flavor, is killing harmful bacteria and
parasites that could be present in raw seafood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sashimi

I was going to have breakfast, now I have to wait for the room to
stop spinning:-P


Sorry. ;-)

While I like cooked fish, sometimes I'm just in the mood for really
"fresh" food...

Steak Tartar is the most obvious one, but there are others using thinly
sliced raw beef in a salad, but I can't remember what it's called. The
trick to making it really good is using really _lean_ beef as, to me,
raw beef fat is nasty. :-P

Sometimes I just crave raw beef. I probably need the iron. It's a girl
thing.

I generally use Top round:

http://i16.tinypic.com/5xywje1.jpg

Dipped in a bit of soy sauce and/or raw egg yolk. ;-d
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 07:29 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

Sashimi... ;-)

Oh, my god.

Sashimi is a Japanese delicacy primarily consisting of very fresh raw
seafood, sliced into thin pieces . . .
A reputed motivation for serving wasabi with sashimi (and also gari,
pickled ginger), besides its flavor, is killing harmful bacteria and
parasites that could be present in raw seafood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sashimi

I was going to have breakfast, now I have to wait for the room to
stop spinning:-P


Sorry. ;-)

While I like cooked fish, sometimes I'm just in the mood for really
"fresh" food...

Steak Tartar is the most obvious one, but there are others using thinly
sliced raw beef in a salad, but I can't remember what it's called. The
trick to making it really good is using really _lean_ beef as, to me,
raw beef fat is nasty. :-P

Sometimes I just crave raw beef. I probably need the iron. It's a girl
thing.

I generally use Top round:

http://i16.tinypic.com/5xywje1.jpg

Dipped in a bit of soy sauce and/or raw egg yolk. ;-d


Followup to my own post now that I looked at the wiki link (sorry!)

Carpaccio. That's the dish I could not remember the name of. Thanks for
the Wiki link!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpaccio

I've seen it served with slices of fresh tomato and fresh basil leaves
too, much like Insalata Caprice. But, that's served with fresh made
cheese slices.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Billy[_4_] 04-05-2008 08:37 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

Sashimi... ;-)

Oh, my god.

Sashimi is a Japanese delicacy primarily consisting of very fresh raw
seafood, sliced into thin pieces . . .
A reputed motivation for serving wasabi with sashimi (and also gari,
pickled ginger), besides its flavor, is killing harmful bacteria and
parasites that could be present in raw seafood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sashimi

I was going to have breakfast, now I have to wait for the room to
stop spinning:-P


Sorry. ;-)

While I like cooked fish, sometimes I'm just in the mood for really
"fresh" food...

Steak Tartar is the most obvious one, but there are others using thinly
sliced raw beef in a salad, but I can't remember what it's called. The
trick to making it really good is using really _lean_ beef as, to me,
raw beef fat is nasty. :-P

Sometimes I just crave raw beef. I probably need the iron. It's a girl
thing.

I generally use Top round:

http://i16.tinypic.com/5xywje1.jpg

Dipped in a bit of soy sauce and/or raw egg yolk. ;-d


Maybe I'll just wait for dinner.
Seen "Into the Wild", yet? Seems like it might be your kind of
movie.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.counterpunch.org/martin05022008.html

Billy[_4_] 04-05-2008 08:42 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

Sashimi... ;-)
Oh, my god.

Sashimi is a Japanese delicacy primarily consisting of very fresh raw
seafood, sliced into thin pieces . . .
A reputed motivation for serving wasabi with sashimi (and also gari,
pickled ginger), besides its flavor, is killing harmful bacteria and
parasites that could be present in raw seafood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sashimi

I was going to have breakfast, now I have to wait for the room to
stop spinning:-P


Sorry. ;-)

While I like cooked fish, sometimes I'm just in the mood for really
"fresh" food...

Steak Tartar is the most obvious one, but there are others using thinly
sliced raw beef in a salad, but I can't remember what it's called. The
trick to making it really good is using really _lean_ beef as, to me,
raw beef fat is nasty. :-P

Sometimes I just crave raw beef. I probably need the iron. It's a girl
thing.

I generally use Top round:

http://i16.tinypic.com/5xywje1.jpg

Dipped in a bit of soy sauce and/or raw egg yolk. ;-d


Followup to my own post now that I looked at the wiki link (sorry!)

Carpaccio. That's the dish I could not remember the name of. Thanks for
the Wiki link!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpaccio

I've seen it served with slices of fresh tomato and fresh basil leaves
too, much like Insalata Caprice. But, that's served with fresh made
cheese slices.


Casu Marzu, no doubt;-)
Well a fast isn't such a bad thing.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.counterpunch.org/martin05022008.html

Bill[_13_] 04-05-2008 10:42 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article , Charlie wrote:

On Sat, 03 May 2008 10:13:05 -0500, Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.

That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.


But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!
--


Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Bony yes, *but* skinned and properly scored and lightly dusted and
scores lightly packed with flour/cornmeal and deep fried.....oh my.

The scoring of the flesh is *the* key to proper carp. Scoring, for
those who aren't familiar, is running your *very* sharp knife from
backbone down perpendiculary to the bellyside, cutting thru all the
tiny bones, but not the ribs, or cutting clear thru the fish. From
head to tail. You score as closely as possible, no more than 1/8 in
apart. You can feel all the little hairbones being cut. Deep frying
then reduces the tiny bones to nothing, though one still must exercise
the usual caution when eating fish.

Oh lordy, Charlie and Mrs. Charlie are looking forward to fresh carp,
coleslaw and fried taters and cornbread....just your mention of carp
has me salivating like Pavlov's pup......

Charlie


Once again my dad would have me out on the swamp ice. Break a hole and
shoot carp that came for air. 1955

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 11:16 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

Sometimes I just crave raw beef. I probably need the iron. It's a girl
thing.

I generally use Top round:

http://i16.tinypic.com/5xywje1.jpg

Dipped in a bit of soy sauce and/or raw egg yolk. ;-d


Maybe I'll just wait for dinner.
Seen "Into the Wild", yet? Seems like it might be your kind of
movie.
--

Billy


I've seen "The Wild", but not the other...
Raw foods tend to be higher in nutrition, but that can balance out with
some high fiber veggies. Cooking some stuff makes it more digestible.

Most of the time, I cook my steak rare. ;-d

http://i4.tinypic.com/4mkzc40.jpg

Seared on the outside, chilled, and served in a salad.
A creative way to serve steak leftovers!
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 11:17 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

Carpaccio. That's the dish I could not remember the name of. Thanks for
the Wiki link!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpaccio

I've seen it served with slices of fresh tomato and fresh basil leaves
too, much like Insalata Caprice. But, that's served with fresh made
cheese slices.


Casu Marzu, no doubt;-)
Well a fast isn't such a bad thing.
--

Billy


Heh! Sometimes I fast for a day or two, but not deliberately.
Sometimes I'm just too busy to eat, or am simply not hungry.

It's good for weight control.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 11:22 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

Casu Marzu, no doubt;-)


Ugh. I'll pass.
There are some raw things even _I_ won't eat. I'll draw the line at
maggots. g

I do enjoy Sashimi and raw beef but will not eat raw pork or chicken.
The texture leaves much to be desired for one thing.

I can eat most veggies raw or cooked. OB gardening, I really need to
consider putting in more chard. I love the stuff! I'm also thinking
about picking up some beets from the grocery store just to grow the
greens. Dad loves beets but I cannot stand them. I love the greens
only. ;-d I've noted a trend at the stores now where they've quit
chopping off the greens. For awhile there, you could not get beets with
the leaves.

I've not seen carrot greens in ages. I like to feed fresh greens to
Freya, my Goffin's Cockatoo.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 11:24 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article , Charlie wrote:

On Sat, 03 May 2008 10:13:05 -0500, Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.

That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.


But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!
--


Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Bony yes, *but* skinned and properly scored and lightly dusted and
scores lightly packed with flour/cornmeal and deep fried.....oh my.


Hm. Carp is considered a trash fish here. I may have to re-assess that,
thanks!


The scoring of the flesh is *the* key to proper carp. Scoring, for
those who aren't familiar, is running your *very* sharp knife from
backbone down perpendiculary to the bellyside, cutting thru all the
tiny bones, but not the ribs, or cutting clear thru the fish. From
head to tail. You score as closely as possible, no more than 1/8 in
apart. You can feel all the little hairbones being cut. Deep frying
then reduces the tiny bones to nothing, though one still must exercise
the usual caution when eating fish.


Can you fillet them?


Oh lordy, Charlie and Mrs. Charlie are looking forward to fresh carp,
coleslaw and fried taters and cornbread....just your mention of carp
has me salivating like Pavlov's pup......

Charlie


Definitely have to re-asses. :-) Some people around here dump their
"used" goldfish in the local river and they get HUGE.
I live in a college town.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Omelet[_4_] 04-05-2008 11:24 PM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Bill wrote:

Oh lordy, Charlie and Mrs. Charlie are looking forward to fresh carp,
coleslaw and fried taters and cornbread....just your mention of carp
has me salivating like Pavlov's pup......

Charlie


Once again my dad would have me out on the swamp ice. Break a hole and
shoot carp that came for air. 1955

Bill


Sounds like fun. Did you use a .22?
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

Bill[_13_] 05-05-2008 12:35 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article , Charlie wrote:


But....the question remains....how did you fix your carp and did/do you
like them?

Sold them to local Jewish folk never ate them.
Sold our rats to local black folk eat some.

Our community was made up of poor blacks, whites, jews and what ever
got here. Hand pumps for water and wood or coal for heat. We all were
driven out to make for modern expansion. We called it the meadows where
my back yard was a large swamp of a few hundred acres. The
Philadelphia airport is real close to where I grew up. BTw the projects
failed and the area is now a wasted community. They took 1 out of every
3 homes and it is still like that.

Folks in our area used to can lots of carp. THe pressuring took care
of the bones and the flavor was reminiscent of tuna. Pretty damned
good eatin' it was.

Never canned any fish or meat. Dried fish in a dehydrator and froze
meat.


Gotta ask ya' this one....you and your dad ever noodle for catfish?


Unknown to me.

That always gave me the willys, you just *knew* what was comin', but I
never got comfortable doing it. I knew some guys what near got
drownded using this technique. Brushpiles were dangerous. Sure as hell
got skinned up fierce once in a while. Never happened to me, but
sometimes bank holes held things other than cats.

Charlie, feelin' kind of ........elderly...and missin' the old fun! ;-)


I'm not feeling elderly but I'd like to sleep sound and not know what
Tinnitus and other health things mean. Looking at my efforts to be
healthy I some times the effort was for naught. But when I jump over a
curb I think yea.

Bill

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B01n4U9YyaI

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Bill[_13_] 05-05-2008 12:51 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article , Charlie wrote:

You probably don't like pickled beets either. Shame....after you eat
'em you can throw in hardboiled eggs and in a couple
weeks.......mmmmmmmm.

We sort of think of this as pickled eggs dyed red.

Bill German good stuff

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Billy[_4_] 05-05-2008 02:05 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

Sometimes I just crave raw beef. I probably need the iron. It's a girl
thing.

I generally use Top round:

http://i16.tinypic.com/5xywje1.jpg

Dipped in a bit of soy sauce and/or raw egg yolk. ;-d


Maybe I'll just wait for dinner.
Seen "Into the Wild", yet? Seems like it might be your kind of
movie.
--

Billy


I've seen "The Wild", but not the other...
Raw foods tend to be higher in nutrition, but that can balance out with
some high fiber veggies. Cooking some stuff makes it more digestible.

Most of the time, I cook my steak rare. ;-d

http://i4.tinypic.com/4mkzc40.jpg

Seared on the outside, chilled, and served in a salad.
A creative way to serve steak leftovers!


Try marinading the thinly cut beef in vinaigrette for an hour or two, or
over night. Serve with cold leeks or asparagus cut into 1" to 2"
lengths, and French bread. Bread, cheese, and red wine, afterwards.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.counterpunch.org/martin05022008.html

Jonno[_6_] 05-05-2008 02:09 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
Bill wrote:
In article , Charlie wrote:

On Sat, 03 May 2008 10:13:05 -0500, Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.
That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.
But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!
--

Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Bony yes, *but* skinned and properly scored and lightly dusted and
scores lightly packed with flour/cornmeal and deep fried.....oh my.

The scoring of the flesh is *the* key to proper carp. Scoring, for
those who aren't familiar, is running your *very* sharp knife from
backbone down perpendiculary to the bellyside, cutting thru all the
tiny bones, but not the ribs, or cutting clear thru the fish. From
head to tail. You score as closely as possible, no more than 1/8 in
apart. You can feel all the little hairbones being cut. Deep frying
then reduces the tiny bones to nothing, though one still must exercise
the usual caution when eating fish.

Oh lordy, Charlie and Mrs. Charlie are looking forward to fresh carp,
coleslaw and fried taters and cornbread....just your mention of carp
has me salivating like Pavlov's pup......

Charlie


Once again my dad would have me out on the swamp ice. Break a hole and
shoot carp that came for air. 1955

Bill

I was kidding! We dont want droves of people carp fishing in this ladies
water tank.... We only wanted to get rid of the mosquitos. Oh hell. I
remember the saying " its hard, when you find yourself in the middle of
a mudhole full of alligators that you only came to drain the swamp"
Shhooo no fishing allowed!

Billy[_4_] 05-05-2008 02:20 AM

Grey laundry water for garden watering?
 
In article
,
Bill wrote:

I'm not feeling elderly but I'd like to sleep sound and not know what
Tinnitus and other health things mean. Looking at my efforts to be
healthy I some times the effort was for naught. But when I jump over a
curb I think yea.

Bill

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B01n4U9YyaI


Who was Tony Martin? I don't remember him.
I'm with you on the Tinnitus. A little peace and quiet would
be nice.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.counterpunch.org/martin05022008.html


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