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onions and leeks question
On 13/05/09 13:15, Therefore wrote:
I have lost the labels from both onion and leek seedlings which are about 6" high. Is there any way that I differentiate between them at this stage TIA .............................. Leslie Why do you need to differentiate them? Just plant each tray/pot load in a separate row. As they grow, the onions will develop tubular hollow leafs whilst the leeks will develop flat leaves. Ed |
onions and leeks question
Ed wrote:
On 13/05/09 13:15, Therefore wrote: I have lost the labels from both onion and leek seedlings which are about 6" high. Is there any way that I differentiate between them at this stage TIA .............................. Leslie Why do you need to differentiate them? Just plant each tray/pot load in a separate row. As they grow, the onions will develop tubular hollow leafs whilst the leeks will develop flat leaves. Ed Except that they are planted differently. Leeks should ideally be dropped into a hole so the base is a few inches below the soil level to give a good white stem. Onions are planted level with the soil. -- David in Normandy. |
onions and leeks question
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David in Normandy wrote: Ed wrote: On 13/05/09 13:15, Therefore wrote: I have lost the labels from both onion and leek seedlings which are about 6" high. Is there any way that I differentiate between them at this stage TIA .............................. Leslie Why do you need to differentiate them? Just plant each tray/pot load in a separate row. As they grow, the onions will develop tubular hollow leafs whilst the leeks will develop flat leaves. Ed Except that they are planted differently. Leeks should ideally be dropped into a hole so the base is a few inches below the soil level to give a good white stem. Onions are planted level with the soil. How about just planting them as onion. Then hill the leeks similar to white asparagus. Sounds like extra work though why not reseed the leeks ? How many plants are we talking about 50 or 50000. Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA Not all who wander are lost. - J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973) |
onions and leeks question
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Ed ex@directory wrote: On 13/05/09 13:15, Therefore wrote: I have lost the labels from both onion and leek seedlings which are about 6" high. Is there any way that I differentiate between them at this stage TIA .............................. Leslie Why do you need to differentiate them? Just plant each tray/pot load in a separate row. As they grow, the onions will develop tubular hollow leafs whilst the leeks will develop flat leaves. Ed Leeks aren't to be planted until they are about the diameter of a No.2 school pencil, and then they are placed in a trench which is slowly filled in to give the blanched portion of the leek. -- - Billy "For the first time in the history of the world, every human being is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html |
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Charlie wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 16:07:54 -0700, Billy wrote: In article , Ed ex@directory wrote: On 13/05/09 13:15, Therefore wrote: I have lost the labels from both onion and leek seedlings which are about 6" high. Is there any way that I differentiate between them at this stage TIA .............................. Leslie Why do you need to differentiate them? Just plant each tray/pot load in a separate row. As they grow, the onions will develop tubular hollow leafs whilst the leeks will develop flat leaves. Ed Leeks aren't to be planted until they are about the diameter of a No.2 school pencil, and then they are placed in a trench which is slowly filled in to give the blanched portion of the leek. They can also be planted deep using a dibble and then compost, mulch, etc (you know the routine) added....to accomplish the same end. Charlie That is how I do it, seems a lot less bother than a trench. I dib a deep hole and drop the leek into it, sometimes only the tip of the leek is still above ground level. I do not back fill the hole though and just leave it. It has always worked well for me. Some earth usually tumbles back in the hole over the coming weeks anyway or the leek grows to fill out the hole. I grow a couple of hundred leeks this way every year - we like leek soup :-) -- David in Normandy. |
onions and leeks question
On 14/05/09 00:07, Billy wrote:
In article , Ed ex@directory wrote: On 13/05/09 13:15, Therefore wrote: I have lost the labels from both onion and leek seedlings which are about 6" high. Is there any way that I differentiate between them at this stage TIA .............................. Leslie Why do you need to differentiate them? Just plant each tray/pot load in a separate row. As they grow, the onions will develop tubular hollow leafs whilst the leeks will develop flat leaves. Ed snip Leeks aren't to be planted until they are about the diameter of a No.2 school pencil, snip Why is that? What would be the problem if they were planted when they had a much smaller diameter, say, like a cocktail stick? Ed |
onions and leeks question
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Ed ex@directory wrote: On 14/05/09 00:07, Billy wrote: In article , Ed ex@directory wrote: On 13/05/09 13:15, Therefore wrote: I have lost the labels from both onion and leek seedlings which are about 6" high. Is there any way that I differentiate between them at this stage TIA .............................. Leslie Why do you need to differentiate them? Just plant each tray/pot load in a separate row. As they grow, the onions will develop tubular hollow leafs whilst the leeks will develop flat leaves. Ed snip Leeks aren't to be planted until they are about the diameter of a No.2 school pencil, snip Why is that? What would be the problem if they were planted when they had a much smaller diameter, say, like a cocktail stick? Ed Don't think it's a diameter problem really, except diameter has a relationship with length. (Usually the greater the diameter of the leek, the greater it's length. This is the way I've seen it presented in books. Basing it on length would avoid the confusion that we are discussing now.) You want 5 - 6 inches of the plant in the ground to produce the blanched (white) base of the leek. -- - Billy "For the first time in the history of the world, every human being is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html |
onions and leeks question
On 14/05/09 17:34, Billy wrote:
In article , Ed ex@directory wrote: On 14/05/09 00:07, Billy wrote: In article , Ed ex@directory wrote: On 13/05/09 13:15, Therefore wrote: I have lost the labels from both onion and leek seedlings which are about 6" high. Is there any way that I differentiate between them at this stage TIA .............................. Leslie Why do you need to differentiate them? Just plant each tray/pot load in a separate row. As they grow, the onions will develop tubular hollow leafs whilst the leeks will develop flat leaves. Ed snip Leeks aren't to be planted until they are about the diameter of a No.2 school pencil, snip Why is that? What would be the problem if they were planted when they had a much smaller diameter, say, like a cocktail stick? Ed Don't think it's a diameter problem really, except diameter has a relationship with length. (Usually the greater the diameter of the leek, the greater it's length. This is the way I've seen it presented in books. Basing it on length would avoid the confusion that we are discussing now.) You want 5 - 6 inches of the plant in the ground to produce the blanched (white) base of the leek. Thank you for a very clear answer. I will in future base my decisions on the leeks having about 6 inches of growth before transplanting out. Ed |
onions and leeks question
David in Normandy said:
Charlie wrote: They can also be planted deep using a dibble and then compost, mulch, etc (you know the routine) added....to accomplish the same end. That is how I do it, seems a lot less bother than a trench. I dib a deep hole and drop the leek into it, sometimes only the tip of the leek is still above ground level. I do not back fill the hole though and just leave it. It has always worked well for me. Some earth usually tumbles back in the hole over the coming weeks anyway or the leek grows to fill out the hole. I grow a couple of hundred leeks this way every year - we like leek soup :-) That's essentially how I plant leeks. I prepare the soil with compost alfalfa and then mulch with a few layers of newsprint and a thick layer of straw. I then dibble a hole and drop my transplant into it. The tip of the transplant will usually be below the top of the straw. No backfilling, just pour a bit of water (mixed with kelp) into the hole. Other than pulling the occasional wheat or elm seedling (I wish that tree would just DIE!) there is not much more to do than wait until fall. I love leeks baked with a little butter...nicely carmelized...yummmm -- Pat in Plymouth MI "So, it was all a dream." "No dear, this is the dream, you're still in the cell." email valid but not regularly monitored |
onions and leeks question
In article , Charlie wrote:
On Thu, 14 May 2009 13:03:27 +0200, David in Normandy wrote: Charlie wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009 16:07:54 -0700, Billy wrote: In article , Ed ex@directory wrote: On 13/05/09 13:15, Therefore wrote: I have lost the labels from both onion and leek seedlings which are about 6" high. Is there any way that I differentiate between them at this stage TIA .............................. Leslie Why do you need to differentiate them? Just plant each tray/pot load in a separate row. As they grow, the onions will develop tubular hollow leafs whilst the leeks will develop flat leaves. Ed Leeks aren't to be planted until they are about the diameter of a No.2 school pencil, and then they are placed in a trench which is slowly filled in to give the blanched portion of the leek. They can also be planted deep using a dibble and then compost, mulch, etc (you know the routine) added....to accomplish the same end. Charlie That is how I do it, seems a lot less bother than a trench. I dib a deep hole and drop the leek into it, sometimes only the tip of the leek is still above ground level. I do not back fill the hole though and just leave it. It has always worked well for me. Some earth usually tumbles back in the hole over the coming weeks anyway or the leek grows to fill out the hole. I grow a couple of hundred leeks this way every year - we like leek soup :-) Leeks are marvelous. We like potato/leek soup. I also read about steaming the tops last year and they are also good. One account said they tasted like asparagus, but I don't think they do. http://www.ajc.com/eveningedge/conte...leekleaves.htm l googling leek+leaves shows several uses for, including a stuffed leak leaf recipe that sounds good. Charlie Yousek Roadsinger AKA Cat Stevens has some new music about Oh leek stuff below. Bill ........................ Xref: sn-us rec.food.recipes:87667 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt -sjc-13!supernews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newsho sting.com!news.alt ..net!feeder.nmix.net!216.184.2.11.MISMATCH!iruka! not-for-mail From: (International Recipes OnLine) Newsgroups: rec.food.recipes Subject: Fire Roasted Corn Chowder with Chipotle Followup-To: rec.food.cooking, rec.food.recipes Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 00:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Organization: International Recipes OnLine Lines: 48 Approved: Message-ID: Reply-To: (International Recipes OnLine) NNTP-Posting-Host: yagi.swcp.com X-Trace: iruka.swcp.com 1186361928 4084 216.184.2.43 (6 Aug 2007 00:58:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 00:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Originator: (Patricia Hill) Fire Roasted Corn Chowder with Chipotle submitted by butterflydog 8 fresh ears of corn in their husks 1 red bell pepper 1 Tbsp olive oil 4 oz pork or bacon diced 2 leeks, white and pale green parts only, finely diced 1 sweet onion finely diced 6 cloves of garlic finely diced 5 cups chicken stock 1 cup of half and half cream 1 1/2 cups cilantro leaves fine chopped 1 1/2 tsp salt 1 tsp black pepper 1/4 to 1/2 tsp ground chipolte pepper OR smoked paprika OR cayenne pepper 2 Tbsp fresh squeezed lime juice I made this soup without pork or bacon just using more olive oil and it came out great. I also used smoked paprika since I try to find recipes that use it ! Remove most of corn husks from corn except for a layer or two, Roast corn on a hot grill turning 1/4 turn every 3 minutes or so till kernels are caramelized ( browned ). Do the same with the bell pepper. Remove corn from grill and let cool. Then with sharp knife scrape kernels into a bowl. In a stockpot over medium heat, add oil and saute pork or bacon, garlic, onion and leek until beginning to brown, about 8 minutes. Skin bell pepper and dice. In a blender or food processor, puree half the corn with half the stock. To the stockpot add the pureed mixture, remaining stock, cream, remaining corn, cilantro, diced bell pepper, salt, black pepper and chipole pepper. Simmer over medium heat for 15 minutes. Add lime juice to finish soup and serve. Yield: 8 to 10 servings. Source: Bob Blumer, The Surreal Gourmet http://www.simpleinternet.com/recipes/ International Recipes OnLine On-Line Culinary Discussion at Food.Chat: http://www.simpleinternet.com/foodchat/ -- Rec.food.recipes is moderated by Patricia Hill at . Only recipes and recipe requests are accepted for posting. Please allow several days for your submission to appear. http://www.cdkitchen.com/rfr/ http://recipes.alastra.com/ -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA Not all who wander are lost. - J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973) |
onions and leeks question
Charlie wrote:
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onions and leeks question
On May 14, 4:59*am, Charlie wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 16:07:54 -0700, Billy wrote: In article , Ed ex@directory wrote: On 13/05/09 13:15, Therefore wrote: I have lost the labels from both onion and leek seedlings which are about 6" high. Is there any way that I differentiate between them at this stage TIA .............................. Leslie * Why do you need to differentiate them? Just plant each tray/pot load in a separate row. As they grow, the onions will develop tubular hollow leafs whilst the leeks will develop flat leaves. Ed Leeks aren't to be planted until they are about the diameter of a No.2 school pencil, and then they are placed in a trench which is slowly filled in to give the blanched portion of the leek. They can also be planted deep using a dibble and then compost, mulch, etc (you know the routine) added....to accomplish the same end. Charlie We just use a dibble and drop in the leek, we don't fill it in; watering always releases a little soil. Judith |
onions and leeks question
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, Judith in France wrote: Leeks aren't to be planted until they are about the diameter of a No.2 school pencil, and then they are placed in a trench which is slowly filled in to give the blanched portion of the leek. They can also be planted deep using a dibble and then compost, mulch, etc (you know the routine) added....to accomplish the same end. Charlie We just use a dibble and drop in the leek, we don't fill it in; watering always releases a little soil. Judith Interesting as leek culture got me thinking they do not exist in the wild. Stuff casting out seeds and a few manage to produce replicates. So a pointed hole and a young plant and the chances increase. Thank you Judith Bill below permanent leek beds New to me!! http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/allium/msg0112100512397.html -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA Not all who wander are lost. - J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973) |
onions and leeks question
"Bill" wrote in message ... In article , Judith in France wrote: Leeks aren't to be planted until they are about the diameter of a No.2 school pencil, and then they are placed in a trench which is slowly filled in to give the blanched portion of the leek. They can also be planted deep using a dibble and then compost, mulch, etc (you know the routine) added....to accomplish the same end. Charlie We just use a dibble and drop in the leek, we don't fill it in; watering always releases a little soil. Judith Interesting as leek culture got me thinking they do not exist in the wild. Stuff casting out seeds and a few manage to produce replicates. So a pointed hole and a young plant and the chances increase. Thank you Judith Bill below permanent leek beds New to me!! http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/allium/msg0112100512397.html -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA Not all who wander are lost. - J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973) I'm afraid you're mistaken, Bill. Ramps are wild leaks. They are strongly flavored, but leaks nonetheless. Steve |
onions and leeks question
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"Steve Peek" wrote: "Bill" wrote in message ... In article , Judith in France wrote: Leeks aren't to be planted until they are about the diameter of a No.2 school pencil, and then they are placed in a trench which is slowly filled in to give the blanched portion of the leek. They can also be planted deep using a dibble and then compost, mulch, etc (you know the routine) added....to accomplish the same end. Charlie We just use a dibble and drop in the leek, we don't fill it in; watering always releases a little soil. Judith Interesting as leek culture got me thinking they do not exist in the wild. Stuff casting out seeds and a few manage to produce replicates. So a pointed hole and a young plant and the chances increase. Thank you Judith Bill below permanent leek beds New to me!! http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/allium/msg0112100512397.html -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA Not all who wander are lost. - J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973) I'm afraid you're mistaken, Bill. Ramps are wild leaks. They are strongly flavored, but leaks nonetheless. Steve Never heard of ramps are they edible? Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA Not all who wander are lost. - J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973) |
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