Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

This flower has volunteered here since forever, but does anybody know
its name?

http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u
Top row, middle two pics.

Thanks,
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article
,
Billy wrote:

This flower has volunteered here since forever, but does anybody know
its name?

http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u
Top row, middle two pics.

Thanks,

The softness of the stems intrigued me.

BIll

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle."
-Philo of Alexandria

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

This flower has volunteered here since forever, but does anybody know
its name?

http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u
Top row, middle two pics.

Thanks,

The softness of the stems intrigued me.

BIll

I added a third to show the flowers in place. So now it is the top row,
except for the borage and the onion.
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

Billy wrote:
This flower has volunteered here since forever, but does anybody know
its name?

http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u
Top row, middle two pics.

Thanks,

The blue flower on the nodding heads? The leaves are crinkly and hairy?
Borage. Loverly herb to look at, new tender shoots, leaves and flowers go
well in salad, self seeds profusely.

The magenta single bloom? No idea.

David

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

"Billy" wrote in message
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

This flower has volunteered here since forever, but does anybody know
its name?

http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u
Top row, middle two pics.

Thanks,

The softness of the stems intrigued me.

BIll

I added a third to show the flowers in place. So now it is the top row,
except for the borage and the onion.

The magenta flower is Lychnis - it also comes in white. They are brilliant
survivors in dry conditions which they seem to prefer and in my place the
volunteer seeds sprout in a gravel pathway.

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article
,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

This flower has volunteered here since forever, but does anybody know
its name?

http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u
Top row, middle two pics.

Thanks,

The softness of the stems intrigued me.

BIll

I added a third to show the flowers in place. So now it is the top row,
except for the borage and the onion.

The magenta flower is Lychnis - it also comes in white. They are brilliant
survivors in dry conditions which they seem to prefer and in my place the
volunteer seeds sprout in a gravel pathway.

Indeed that is it, thank you Fran. It is odd, and reassurring that,
though thousands of miles apart, we have the same floral friends. The
Lychnis coronaria, the red Valerian, Nasturtiums, and the Foxglove are
volunteer guests every year here, on the north side of the hill. They
seem to grow wherever I don't intrude.

Oh, Happy Winter Solstice, the lengthening days will push you to start
collecting your seeds. You must have about 60 days before you need to
start germinating. Time to make plans.

And thanks again.
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

"Billy" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message
Bill who putters wrote:
Billy wrote:

This flower has volunteered here since forever, but does
anybody know its name?
http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u
Top row, middle two pics.

The softness of the stems intrigued me.

BIll

I added a third to show the flowers in place. So now it is the top
row, except for the borage and the onion.

The magenta flower is Lychnis - it also comes in white. They are
brilliant survivors in dry conditions which they seem to prefer and in
my place the volunteer seeds sprout in a gravel pathway.

Indeed that is it, thank you Fran. It is odd, and reassurring that,
though thousands of miles apart, we have the same floral friends.

It is indeed nice and glad to be of some help. It's very, very irritating
to not know what a certain plant is. I have one in my front driveway and
it's a glorious thing in spring. It took me 10 years to find out that it is
a Parahebe, but beyond that, I still have no idea of its full name and I can
find nothing on the Net quite like it.

The
Lychnis coronaria, the red Valerian, Nasturtiums, and the Foxglove are
volunteer guests every year here, on the north side of the hill. They
seem to grow wherever I don't intrude.

I love common old Valerian and also Foxgloves but they don't do well here as
they prefer moister conditions than they can regularly get.

My really super duper favourites of the old fashioned plants though would
have to be Lily of the Valley, Lavendar Shower and Fairy Fishing Rod. I
can't grow Lavender Shower here but I can on our other farm where I've
tucked it inot the hsade behind a water tank on the eastern side of the
house and even though we are not there a great deal, without any help on my
part it thrives. I've done much the same thing with the Lily of the
Valley - south facing and moist and always in shade and it keeps on keeping
on.

Oh, Happy Winter Solstice, the lengthening days will push you to start
collecting your seeds. You must have about 60 days before you need to
start germinating. Time to make plans.

Thank you for the Winter wishes - it's as cold as charity here ATM.

As you lot write about your tomatoes and lovely summer crops, I go a bright
pea green colour. But David and I will get our turn soon and then we'll
make you Northern Hemisphere types turn pea green :-))

And thanks again.

Most welcome.

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

FarmI wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message
Bill who putters wrote:
Billy wrote:

This flower has volunteered here since forever, but does
anybody know its name?
http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u
Top row, middle two pics.

The softness of the stems intrigued me.

BIll
I added a third to show the flowers in place. So now it is the top
row, except for the borage and the onion.
The magenta flower is Lychnis - it also comes in white. They are
brilliant survivors in dry conditions which they seem to prefer and in
my place the volunteer seeds sprout in a gravel pathway.
Indeed that is it, thank you Fran. It is odd, and reassurring that,
though thousands of miles apart, we have the same floral friends.

It is indeed nice and glad to be of some help. It's very, very irritating
to not know what a certain plant is. I have one in my front driveway and
it's a glorious thing in spring. It took me 10 years to find out that it is
a Parahebe, but beyond that, I still have no idea of its full name and I can
find nothing on the Net quite like it.

The
Lychnis coronaria, the red Valerian, Nasturtiums, and the Foxglove are
volunteer guests every year here, on the north side of the hill. They
seem to grow wherever I don't intrude.

I love common old Valerian and also Foxgloves but they don't do well here as
they prefer moister conditions than they can regularly get.

My really super duper favourites of the old fashioned plants though would
have to be Lily of the Valley,

This makes me wonder how much moisture Valerian must take. My
brother, who lives on the edge of a valley (Cleveland, Ohio), has a
substantial stand of Lily of the Valley in the swampiest part of the
yard. I've never seen them grow elsewhere. The only thing I've seen grow
in swampier (and shady) conditions is skunk cabbage.

I was always fond of jack in the pulpit, which grew in the valley.
Never a lot but always a few.


Jeff



Lavendar Shower and Fairy Fishing Rod. I
can't grow Lavender Shower here but I can on our other farm where I've
tucked it inot the hsade behind a water tank on the eastern side of the
house and even though we are not there a great deal, without any help on my
part it thrives. I've done much the same thing with the Lily of the
Valley - south facing and moist and always in shade and it keeps on keeping
on.

Oh, Happy Winter Solstice, the lengthening days will push you to start
collecting your seeds. You must have about 60 days before you need to
start germinating. Time to make plans.

Thank you for the Winter wishes - it's as cold as charity here ATM.

As you lot write about your tomatoes and lovely summer crops, I go a bright
pea green colour. But David and I will get our turn soon and then we'll
make you Northern Hemisphere types turn pea green :-))

And thanks again.

Most welcome.

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article
,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

The magenta flower is Lychnis - it also comes in white. They are
brilliant survivors in dry conditions which they seem to prefer and in
my place the volunteer seeds sprout in a gravel pathway.

Indeed that is it, thank you Fran. It is odd, and reassurring that,
though thousands of miles apart, we have the same floral friends.

It is indeed nice and glad to be of some help. It's very, very irritating
to not know what a certain plant is. I have one in my front driveway and
it's a glorious thing in spring. It took me 10 years to find out that it is
a Parahebe, but beyond that, I still have no idea of its full name and I can
find nothing on the Net quite like it.

The
Lychnis coronaria, the red Valerian, Nasturtiums, and the Foxglove are
volunteer guests every year here, on the north side of the hill. They
seem to grow wherever I don't intrude.

I love common old Valerian and also Foxgloves but they don't do well here as
they prefer moister conditions than they can regularly get.

My really super duper favourites of the old fashioned plants though would
have to be Lily of the Valley, Lavendar Shower and Fairy Fishing Rod. I
can't grow Lavender Shower here but I can on our other farm where I've
tucked it inot the hsade behind a water tank on the eastern side of the
house and even though we are not there a great deal, without any help on my
part it thrives. I've done much the same thing with the Lily of the
Valley - south facing and moist and always in shade and it keeps on keeping
on.

I've been think about the Lily of the Valley because of all our tree
cover. I think I would have trouble with the Fairy Fishing Rod because
it requires full Sun. These are my kind of flowers in that they are low
maintenance. Is there another name for Lavender Shower? Google keeps
giving me bath gels :Ob
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

The magenta flower is Lychnis - it also comes in white. They are
brilliant survivors in dry conditions which they seem to prefer and in

my place the volunteer seeds sprout in a gravel pathway.

Indeed that is it, thank you Fran. It is odd, and reassurring that,
though thousands of miles apart, we have the same floral friends.

It is indeed nice and glad to be of some help. It's very, very irritating
to not know what a certain plant is. I have one in my front driveway and
it's a glorious thing in spring. It took me 10 years to find out that it
is
a Parahebe, but beyond that, I still have no idea of its full name and I
can
find nothing on the Net quite like it.

The
Lychnis coronaria, the red Valerian, Nasturtiums, and the Foxglove are
volunteer guests every year here, on the north side of the hill. They
seem to grow wherever I don't intrude.

I love common old Valerian and also Foxgloves but they don't do well here
as
they prefer moister conditions than they can regularly get.

My really super duper favourites of the old fashioned plants though would
have to be Lily of the Valley, Lavendar Shower and Fairy Fishing Rod. I
can't grow Lavender Shower here but I can on our other farm where I've
tucked it inot the hsade behind a water tank on the eastern side of the
house and even though we are not there a great deal, without any help on my
part it thrives. I've done much the same thing with the Lily of the
Valley - south facing and moist and always in shade and it keeps on keeping
on.

I've been think about the Lily of the Valley because of all our tree
cover. I think I would have trouble with the Fairy Fishing Rod because
it requires full Sun. These are my kind of flowers in that they are low
maintenance. Is there another name for Lavender Shower? Google keeps
giving me bath gels :Ob

Lily of the valley was the first plant I had when thinking of a garden.
Long Gone but well worth seeking out again .

Solomon Seal may be worth a gander.

Bill

http://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/woodland/plants/solomon_seal.htm

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle."
-Philo of Alexandria

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article ,
Jeff wrote:

This makes me wonder how much moisture Valerian must take.

It thrives on neglect and doesn't need watering.
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
FarmI wrote:

I love common old Valerian and also Foxgloves but they don't do well here
as they prefer moister conditions than they can regularly get.

My really super duper favourites of the old fashioned plants though would
have to be Lily of the Valley,

This makes me wonder how much moisture Valerian must take.

Sorry Jeff, but I worded that last post very badly. I meant that the
Foxgloves neded more moisture. The Valerian seems to be as tough as an old
boot as it too seeds and sprouts in a gravel section of the drive.

My
brother, who lives on the edge of a valley (Cleveland, Ohio), has a
substantial stand of Lily of the Valley in the swampiest part of the yard.
I've never seen them grow elsewhere. The only thing I've seen grow in
swampier (and shady) conditions is skunk cabbage.

I was always fond of jack in the pulpit, which grew in the valley.

I don't know 'Jack in the Pulpit'. Can you tell me what its botanical name
is please?

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

"Billy" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

My really super duper favourites of the old fashioned plants though would
have to be Lily of the Valley, Lavendar Shower and Fairy Fishing Rod. I
can't grow Lavender Shower here but

I've been think about the Lily of the Valley because of all our tree
cover. I think I would have trouble with the Fairy Fishing Rod because
it requires full Sun. These are my kind of flowers in that they are low
maintenance. Is there another name for Lavender Shower? Google keeps
giving me bath gels :Ob

I was trying to remeber its botanical name when I posted but couldn't at the
time. It's Thalictrum.

And another old fashioned favourite of mine is Soloman's Seal - Polygonatum
multiflorum ( at least I think that's its Bot. name).

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

"Bill who putters" wrote in message
Billy wrote:

I've been think about the Lily of the Valley because of all our tree
cover. I think I would have trouble with the Fairy Fishing Rod because
it requires full Sun. These are my kind of flowers in that they are low
maintenance. Is there another name for Lavender Shower? Google keeps
giving me bath gels :Ob

Lily of the valley was the first plant I had when thinking of a garden.
Long Gone but well worth seeking out again .

Solomon Seal may be worth a gander.

:-)) Ah! Great minds and fools etc........

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

FarmI wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
FarmI wrote:

I love common old Valerian and also Foxgloves but they don't do well here
as they prefer moister conditions than they can regularly get.

My really super duper favourites of the old fashioned plants though would
have to be Lily of the Valley,
This makes me wonder how much moisture Valerian must take.

Sorry Jeff, but I worded that last post very badly. I meant that the
Foxgloves neded more moisture. The Valerian seems to be as tough as an old
boot as it too seeds and sprouts in a gravel section of the drive.

My
brother, who lives on the edge of a valley (Cleveland, Ohio), has a
substantial stand of Lily of the Valley in the swampiest part of the yard.
I've never seen them grow elsewhere. The only thing I've seen grow in
swampier (and shady) conditions is skunk cabbage.

I was always fond of jack in the pulpit, which grew in the valley.

I don't know 'Jack in the Pulpit'. Can you tell me what its botanical name
is please?

Arisaema triphyllum

http://www.americanmeadows.com/Peren...riphyllum.aspx


Loves shade. Even more so than the Lily of the Valley. And that about
exhausts my botanical knowledge!

Jeff

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

FarmI wrote:

Oh, Happy Winter Solstice, the lengthening days will push you to
start collecting your seeds. You must have about 60 days before you
need to start germinating. Time to make plans.

Thank you for the Winter wishes - it's as cold as charity here ATM.

As you lot write about your tomatoes and lovely summer crops, I go a
bright pea green colour. But David and I will get our turn soon and
then we'll make you Northern Hemisphere types turn pea green :-))


I am currently admiring my winter veges (lots of brassicas and greens that
can't take the heat) while trying not sink into the bog. For those may
wonder Fran and I live a long way apart and my place is much wetter being
nearer the coast.

David

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jeff wrote:

This makes me wonder how much moisture Valerian must take.

It thrives on neglect and doesn't need watering.

Not true. It dies here in TN unless heavily watered. It's no heat lover
either.

--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article ,
"D. Arlington" wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jeff wrote:

This makes me wonder how much moisture Valerian must take.

It thrives on neglect and doesn't need watering.

Not true. It dies here in TN unless heavily watered. It's no heat lover
either.

--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Then you have a different flower. My come up out of uncultivated clay
and lives lone enough to seed for the following year. I have taken to
watering mine when I think of it, because they are free beauty, along
with the red valerians, fox gloves, and the nasturtiums, but they endured
a decade of neglect, when we first moved into this house.
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article wildbilly-253140.17293324062009@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says...

Then you have a different flower. My come up out of uncultivated clay
and lives lone enough to seed for the following year. I have taken to
watering mine when I think of it, because they are free beauty, along
with the red valerians, fox gloves, and the nasturtiums, but they endured
a decade of neglect, when we first moved into this house.

From the Valerian we planted a few years ago, only two plants of eight
survived neglect. (Valeriana officinalis Anthos) Valerian and our
variety are listed as hardy from zone 4 to 9.

And it might be our variety, but in the riot of plants we have growing,
they don't seed at all.

Zone 5... sandy soil.

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article ,
phorbin wrote:

In article wildbilly-253140.17293324062009@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says...

Then you have a different flower. My come up out of uncultivated clay
and lives lone enough to seed for the following year. I have taken to
watering mine when I think of it, because they are free beauty, along
with the red valerians, fox gloves, and the nasturtiums, but they endured
a decade of neglect, when we first moved into this house.

From the Valerian we planted a few years ago, only two plants of eight
survived neglect. (Valeriana officinalis Anthos) Valerian and our
variety are listed as hardy from zone 4 to 9.

And it might be our variety, but in the riot of plants we have growing,
they don't seed at all.

Zone 5... sandy soil.

I have no idea how they do it. I had two empty pots from the basil the
year before, and the red valerian moved in. It never comes up in
cultivated soil for me.
See Garden: http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article wildbilly-25C53E.22022824062009@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says...


I have no idea how they do it. I had two empty pots from the basil the
year before, and the red valerian moved in. It never comes up in
cultivated soil for me.
See Garden: http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u

Red Valerian (centranthus ruber)is also known as Jupiter's beard and is
a wasteland plant.

Valeriana Officinalis is related but not a close cousin.

The former is (IIRC) edible. The latter, sedative.

We had valerian (officinalis) with red, white and orange flowers. The
reds survived.

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article ,
phorbin wrote:

In article wildbilly-25C53E.22022824062009@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says...


I have no idea how they do it. I had two empty pots from the basil the
year before, and the red valerian moved in. It never comes up in
cultivated soil for me.
See Garden: http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u

Red Valerian (centranthus ruber)is also known as Jupiter's beard and is
a wasteland plant.

Valeriana Officinalis is related but not a close cousin.
Apparently a different genus in the Family (Valeriana sylvestris).

The former is (IIRC) edible.
Discribed as non-toxic, but not appealing.

The latter, sedative.

We had valerian (officinalis) with red, white and orange flowers. The
reds survived.
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article wildbilly-3CBEC7.08272725062009@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says...
In article ,
phorbin wrote:

In article wildbilly-25C53E.22022824062009@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says...


I have no idea how they do it. I had two empty pots from the basil the
year before, and the red valerian moved in. It never comes up in
cultivated soil for me.
See Garden: http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u

Red Valerian (centranthus ruber)is also known as Jupiter's beard and is
a wasteland plant.

Valeriana Officinalis is related but not a close cousin.
Apparently a different genus in the Family (Valeriana sylvestris).

The former is (IIRC) edible.
Discribed as non-toxic, but not appealing.

LOL ...just checked the Richter's seed catalogue and it's described as
culinary.

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article ,
phorbin wrote:

In article wildbilly-3CBEC7.08272725062009@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says...
In article ,
phorbin wrote:

In article wildbilly-25C53E.22022824062009@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says...


I have no idea how they do it. I had two empty pots from the basil the
year before, and the red valerian moved in. It never comes up in
cultivated soil for me.
See Garden: http://tinypic.com/1r509n5u

Red Valerian (centranthus ruber)is also known as Jupiter's beard and is
a wasteland plant.

Valeriana Officinalis is related but not a close cousin.
Apparently a different genus in the Family (Valeriana sylvestris).

The former is (IIRC) edible.
Discribed as non-toxic, but not appealing.

LOL ...just checked the Richter's seed catalogue and it's described as
culinary.

See: http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Centranthus+ruber
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

In article , Charlie says...


Ah yes, I use valerian nearly daily.

-officinalis- so as not to confooz the casual peroozer of the thread.

What for?

Eau de DirtySocks! ;-)

Aint that the truth.

Essence de pile of a year's worth of dirty socks while drying.

My wife, who'd never experienced the charm of valerian's earthy
fragrance, was a study in revulsion...

Marvelous herb. Valerian...strong!!

I agree though our cat does not.

She thinks ditchwater is more interesting.

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:24:57 -0400, phorbin
wrote:

In article , Charlie says...


Ah yes, I use valerian nearly daily.

-officinalis- so as not to confooz the casual peroozer of the thread.

What for?

Eau de DirtySocks! ;-)

Aint that the truth.

Essence de pile of a year's worth of dirty socks while drying.

My wife, who'd never experienced the charm of valerian's earthy
fragrance, was a study in revulsion...

Marvelous herb. Valerian...strong!!

I agree though our cat does not.

She thinks ditchwater is more interesting.

Interesting. Many cats enjoy as much as catnip, with similar effects.
I've known such cats and am now careful with my valerian.

Kate

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
FarmI wrote:

I was always fond of jack in the pulpit, which grew in the valley.

I don't know 'Jack in the Pulpit'. Can you tell me what its botanical
name is please?

Arisaema triphyllum

http://www.americanmeadows.com/Peren...riphyllum.aspx

That's a gorgeous plant! But that description of "common in rich woodland"
rather rules it out unless I move to a place with better soil and a higher
rainfall :-(((

Volunteer Flower I.D.
 

"D. Arlington" wrote in message
"Billy" wrote in message
In article ,
Jeff wrote:

This makes me wonder how much moisture Valerian must take.

It thrives on neglect and doesn't need watering.

Not true. It dies here in TN unless heavily watered. It's no heat lover
either.

??????? Are we talking about the same plant?

If it's common Valerian then it has no problems with heat at all. I never,
ever water my plants that grow in the gravel drive and we have had drought
for a long time. I live in a dry climate and rainfall the last few years
would be about 24 inches at its highest and even less for those poor plants
which are under the lee of the carport.

Is TN humid and could humidity be what you mean by 'heat'?